There was a female who ran for president last election. She just didn't get nominated as the democratic presidential nominee.Quote:
she has Clinton as a name, and would be the first female to run as President.
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There was a female who ran for president last election. She just didn't get nominated as the democratic presidential nominee.Quote:
she has Clinton as a name, and would be the first female to run as President.
Actually, I mean she would be the first woman on a ticket.
I know Mosely-Braun ran last year.
Gore's out of it by now, surely. Barack Obama's too young, still. John Kerry could run again, but he'd get annihilated by any centrist republican, such as McCain or Giuliani. If the republicans want a third term in power, they'll probably have to take back the centre, otherwise the Dems will pounce on it.
I think it'll be Clinton vs. McCain.
Geraldine Ferraro was Mondale's running mate on the Democratic ticket in 1984. Winona Laduke was Nader's running mate in 2000. Both were Vice Presidential candidates, but it would have been a start.
Running FOR President. PRESIDENT.
I really hope Barak Obama doesn't run in 2008. He's far too young and needs some experience in the Senate. Now if he ran in 2012, I'd vote for him, no problem.
In 2008, though, I really hope McCain runs, especially after getting beat for the ticket by someone like Bush. McCain would do so much better than Bush could ever do.
And about Hillary Clinton. I loved Bill. I thought he was great, but Hillary puts out a bad vibe. I dunno what it is. I felt the same thing from Kerry and Bush, and I don't like it, whatever it is.
He couldnt even if everyone in america wanted him to. You hafto be BORN here and been living here for 15(Somewhere around there) years.Quote:
Originally Posted by noname
dan quayle lol
[q=Shadow Nexus]FORGET IT, PEOPLE, BUSH WILL HAVE DESTROYED THE WORLD BY 2008!!!
What? Someone had to say it :D[/q]
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I'm very much in favour of Hillary Clinton. She has all her husband's strong points, but few of his weaknesses. In fact... Kerry's loss in this year's election will make it possible for her to run in 2008. That's probably the best thing about President Bush's re-election, in my opinion.
I didn't realise Rudi Giuliani was running. A fine leader; America could do far worse.
But I'd still rather see Clinton. It just depends on whether the strong traditionalist elements of the US public would be ready for a female President.
I wouldn't mind a female president. It doesn't matter to me in the slightest what gender/race someone is, but Hillary just has a bad vibe.
Republicans: Rudy Juliani, John McCain
I think these are two great choices :D
Rudy Giuliani is jingoistic and generally overrated. He mutters hollow odes to American patriotism and cleaned up the New York streets with a Mussolinic skill. Plus, he has medical history of cancer and a messy divorce. Plus he says he doesn't want to run.
McCain is a good leader, a very respectable Senator, a bit fo amaverick, but he is anything but liberal. McCain matches the essence of the Republican party before the Bush big-government wing took control of the party. McCain stands for social conservatism, small government, personal responsibility, and strong leadership. These aren't necessarily bad stances, but they aren't exactly left of center.
I have to agree with the assessment around here, more or less.
Word on the street is that Jebby Bush has an inside track to 2008, if he stays low key for a while, as he's considered by many on the Right to be the "smart and savvy" Bush. Though, the question is, as many have pointed out, will America be Bushwhacked by then? My guess is yes, and that we'll see someone else gain in prominence by around 2006.
As for the Democrats, they can't go with Kerry because in my opinion, Kerry was too Moderate a Democrat. This election proved that you can't hope to steal votes from Conservatives because their core is VERY much strengthened, be it from Karl Rove, Religion, or whatever. So, the logical conclusion I draw upon is this: Democrats need to MAKE more Democrats in this country, and the best way to do this is to put as much distance as you can on issues from the Republicans. Instead of being for Civil Unions, be for Gay Marriage, which to me, is logical anyway. Be entirely for stem cell research, be for Universal healthcare, be for pro-choice, ideas that can galvinize the Left and can add more Democrats to the next election.
Hilary Clinton or Howard Dean could be good choices as both have proven firm Liberal stances, which believe it or not, IS NOT A BAD THING. The worst thing the Conservatives have done in this country is demonize the word "Liberal" and make it seem as if there is nothing good Democrats or Liberals represent, when in fact, it's almost always 50/50. Sooner or later, I have to believe this country will realize that an entirely Right/Conservative agenda cannot work, but rather you HAVE to get some Liberal programs in as well to get the country moving forward. If the Democrats can begin right now to expand their base, I think we'll see a very different outcome in 2008.
So, my prediction for 2008:
Republican: Still Up In The Air
Democrat: Hilary Clinton or Howard Dean.
Food for thought: If Clinton is the Democrats pick, I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see the Republicans choose Condy Rice, who could trump the sex card with the race card. It's sad when politics becomes almost a game of "can you top this?"
Take care all.
Pfft, a woman for president? No way.
Rudolph Guilianni seems like a very good choice... he made an incredibly good impression on me. Sort of devoted like Bush, only with the necessary extra IQ points.
Then we need Woopie Goldberg. Black, Jewish, AND a woman. If only she was gay... :DQuote:
I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see the Republicans choose Condy Rice, who could trump the sex card with the race card. It's sad when politics becomes almost a game of "can you top this?"
For all those people who are so quick to dismiss Hilary Clinton, it might be worth reading up on just how popular she is.
Like it or not, there will be a first female president eventually and there are just as many people who will yell "gimmick" as there are who will yell "sexist" - nobody should be yelling gimmick, they should be pointing out flaws in their political nature, and nobody that I know of has managed to come up with much more than "Oh, she isn't that great..." or something similar. What's so bad about her? Cry gimmick and you're the fool, not anyone else.Quote:
Hillary Clinton is favorite to win the next U.S. presidential election in 2008 after George Bush won re-election to the White House.
The wife of former President Bill Clinton was installed at 5-to-1 odds by the betting agency Ladbrokes and 6-to-1 by bookmaker William Hill to take over from Bush after his second term.
Bush had been Ladbrokes' favorite for the whole of the 2004 election campaign. It's estimated that some 8 million pounds was spent wagering the U.S. election.
Ladbrokes has Hillary Clinton at 5-1 followed by former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani at 7-1 and Kerry running mate John Edwards at 8-1.
Despite the former first lady not running for president in 2004, a broad swath of voters refuses to give up hope that the New York senator will launch a bid for the White House. A survey last year by Quinnipiac University poll, showed an astonishing 43% of Democrats surveyed would back Hillary Clinton if she entered the 2004 race.
Gen. Wesley Clark came a distant second, with just 10% of the vote. Excluding Clinton, Clark's support jumped to 17%, a four-point edge over Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut and ex-Vermont Gov. Howard Dean.
"Despite the hoopla over Dean and Clark, if you put Mrs. Clinton into the mix she wipes them out," says Maurice Carroll, director of the nonpartisan Quinnipiac University Polling Institute in Hamden, Conn. "Usually when we put her in [the poll] no one else gets into double digits."
Many Democrats saw Clinton as the best hope to unseat George Bush for some legitimate reasons. She's a celebrity with unquestionable name recognition. Next, she has built a track record of legislative successes while holding office in New York. Third, and perhaps most tellingly, she sparks broad-based enthusiasm among Democratic voters, something the current crop of candidates has failed to do.