I liked most every aspect, but it was tough. Like, too tough for me to bother playing all the way through. Even with a GameShark...that one forest that was the maze. Argh.
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I liked most every aspect, but it was tough. Like, too tough for me to bother playing all the way through. Even with a GameShark...that one forest that was the maze. Argh.
I thought it was very fun, actually. I had a very similar idea for gameplay before this game came out, and I think Square did it incredibly well.
Anyone remember when games were for playing and not watching? I do.
Not everyone prefers gameplay to story in their RPGs.
RPGs and video games in general are special ways of telling stories. They are able to do it with interactive elements. Not every game must exist with the majority of its emphasis on gameplay, although it never hurts to have some. If video games are ever to garner the respect of books or movies, then people have to move past this stage of "games are only simple minded entertainment." They can have complex plots, but to do so, they need a fairly fleshed out and intricate storyline. And I'm sorry, but you aren't going to find that in the overly "fun" games.
So yes, I do remember when games consisted of no cutscences (which is a much way to say it as I thought it was a bit of an exaggeration) and I am glad those days are over because storytelling has evolved. The market still exists for gamers who desire gameplay over story, and there is nothing wrong with that. But people like me are finally beginning to have the interactive stories we've never had the chance to have before.
yes but the integral part of video games, the gamplay, is dissapearing. Without that they're movies. And I like movies, but I like video games too. I play games for a fun gaming experience. When I want a story, I read books. Games are not a method of storytelling. There was no plot behind pong, and if there was, it was clearly went right over my head. The emphasis has shifted from video GAME to VIDEO game.
Oh well, change is inevitable.
And when I want gameplay, I'll go play an action game or a fighting game.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJzen
Both are completely different, and you just can't make comparisons between them. I've already said that game stories are different from book stories because they are told interactively.
There is still plenty of market for people like you who want gameplay as their top priority in their videogames. Hell, that's the only thing Nintendo is about. That market will never disappear.
That's odd... I find Vagrant Story to be extremely fun. And since when did the word "tough" become synonymous with "boring"? That's just ridiculous. Vagrant Story is incredibly hard, maybe one of the harder games I've ever played without the ability to set the difficulty but in my opinion that only serves to make it better. I don't personally know any person who hasn't given up in Vagrant Story and I've lent my copy to maybe 10-12 friends. They all give up saying "Ugh, no matter what I do I end up too weak half way through the game!" And it's basically true. The game requires serious skill, forming out a game-long plan with weapons and strategies and being able to stick to it and overcome incredibly tough bosses.
I was able to beat Final Fantasy VI without gaining one single level beside what was forced on me. I was able to get to the last area in Final Fantasy X without using one sphere level or ever changing my weapons. In Vagrant Story, beating the game with everything that you're given is an accomplishment; a challenge in itself. It makes it all that much more rewarding when you actually do beat it.
I don't know what else to say, if you hate the game because it's "too hard" well then I don't even see the purpose of playing a video game.
i have heard about this game and i am very interested in it, i'll take plot and character developement over action any day
video games CAN be a form of story telling, i thought that we all learned that from the ff games who do a wonderfull job of both gameplay and story telling
EDIT: Please don't double post. -Murder
All right. I now have the game (score) so I'll start playing this now. It looks so good, but I have high expectations...I hope it doesn't fall short. I too, enjoy the story, more than the gameplay in a game. That's the only reason I play vide games, is to get a good story out of it, feel emotions that I don't usually do, be wowed...maybe I'm taking it too seriously, but eh. Now time to get my game on.
:D
Kikimm + Vagrant Story = Ownage.Quote:
Originally Posted by kikimm