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Final-andy. By the sounds of it you are the kind of player who won't touch games like Crono Trigger and Secret of Mana. Just because games don't have sexy hot chicks and super graphics doesn't mean they suck.
Its fair to say that your opinion is outnumbered, but you are entitled to it nonetheless. But FF7 in mine and 98% of everyone who has fully played the game's opinion you are wrong.
Rubedo: Agreed.
i agree it is overated and it deserves the name!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trumpet Thief
i do like games without sexy hot chicks and super graphics cos i like VI its just i hate the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by RedCydranth
Rubedo:...I didn't really get that. :)
I more or less agree with everything TT said.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's one of the most overrated games of all time (Games like Halo and its sequel are more worthy of that title, if you ask me), but perhaps in its genre, and it's definitely the most overrated game in the series.
However, the term "overrated" in my experience, hardly ever implies the game with said title is anywhere near horrible in overall quality. FF7 is a good game that I've played through many, many times, but it doesn't even compare with the likes of FF6 (to give an example from the same series), or Xenogears, or Chrono Trigger.
In regards to FFX-2 (note I'm of the opinion that FFX is also applicable in this situation), and how it compares to the titles I've mentioned... well, after sitting here for nearly a minute trying to find a good way to describe the comparison, I'd say that Muhammad Ali versus Gabby Jay from Super-Punchout would be a fairer fight.
chaos: By overrated, not in every single aspect of the game. Although, for some qualities that the other FF games have as well, people normally only give it praise in FFVII.Quote:
Originally Posted by SePhO_zO
Rubedo: Basically, I completely agree with you. FFVII is definetly a marvelous game, whether what everyone else says, it shouldn't change my own opinion. :)
im just sayin that ff VII is overated but it should still be classed as a ff!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trumpet Thief
also ff VI hasnt got any sexy chicks and the graphics are crap(its 2D)
That's incredibly accurate, unfortunately. I've mentioned a few times around these forums in various threads that the basic plot and character stereotypes in FF7 are a complete rip-off of those same aspects in FF6. I've even said a few times that FF7 is a recycled version of FF6, and I realise now that this is an exaggeration, but I have a .txt file on my hardrive, that I need to dig around for, that illustrates these similarities so well that I experienced an "epiphone" emotion upon finishing the read (it was written by a member of a forum I used to frequent and still visit occassionally - I don't know where the guy is now). That's just one (albeit, a big one) example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trumpet Thief
To be fair to FFX-2, I admittedly had fun developing my characters using the new job system (it made me think of FF5) for a short time, but when the novelty of it wore off (and it didn't take long), you're just left with a laughable story and some ridiculous gameplay elements are only evidence to the fact that Square is in fact a corporate entity whose goal is to make money. Platforming - What? I don't blame a company for trying to introduce elements into a series to keep it from getting stale, but it's obvious there was little effort put into ensuring these gameplay features worked well.
I also feel obligated to mention that I may have had developed a small bias towards FFX-2 when initially playing it as a result of the sour taste left in my mouth by FFX. However, I honestly don't think it was really a factor - I was looking forward to X-2 just as much as the majority of other games in the series before playing it/them, and I kept an open-mind during my entire playthrough. The fact is, it's a mediocre RPG, the only credible features it has being its novelty. Everything else is second-rate.
FF VI is 1000 times beter than ffVI (and so is X-2)
I think you meant to say "FF VI is 1000 times better than FFVII (and so is X-2)"Quote:
Originally Posted by final-andy
If that's the case, then to repeat myself, I agree with the first part (although 1000 is quite a number), but disagree with the latter part.
I respect your opinion as one that's different than mine, and I know how incredibly subjective the matter of taste in video games can be (believe me).
We're really getting nowhere beyond stating our opinons, though. I agree to disagree with you, but we're no longer contributing to the topic at hand. I've given my opinion, and I feel I've done an adequate job at expressing the aspects I like and dislike about the multiple games mentioned in this thread (with the exception of FFX - which I mentioned individually), and I wouldn't mind hearing your supporting reasons for your statements. I plan on going through X-2 at least once again, at some point in the future (so I can get 100%), and I want to know what you thought was so enjoyable about it so perhaps I can have a more fun time.
i agree that people have different opinions. i liked X-2 cos (even though i admit it was rushed) it was a succesful sequel (but they shouldnt do any more) the story line (in my opinion) was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by SePhO_zO
I'll ponder on that. In the meantime, I'm gonna go play some FF8.
I like FFX-2 but it isn't as good as most FF games especially the magic experience of FFVII. FFVII all the way.
Yeah.. FF7 is way better than FFX-2. There really isn't any neccessary elements in RPGs that X-2 excels over 7 in.
The only thing that X-2 wins is a graphics battle, but that is not neccassary for a games success. FF6 was by far one of the best games of all time. Look at those graphics.
As far as 7 being overrated, it is to some extent. But the fact that FF7 brought RPGs back from the dead, into the 3D world and had such an in depth story means it is deservant of its high praise. Because of that game RPGs were no longer for just nerds. Prior to that game anyone who played FF games and such were seen as dorks. Then FF7 hit and everyone played it. Jocks, preps, young and old. It showed the world that RPGs are a legitimate moneymaker. Before that they were a cult favorite style of video game. The leaders of the video gmae world relied on games such as Mario, Crash Bandicoot and Sonic the Hedgehog to headline profits. FF7 is to the RPG as Madden was to Football games or Doom was for FPS games. Without each of them their genre would be years behind.
Rubedo: Now, discarding the fact that it is somewhat overrated, I like FFVII. A great game IMO.
chaos: FFX-2 had some flaws, but it was very fun.
Rubedo: But I still preferred FFVI over all of them. :D