HIV Transformed Into Cancer Seeking Missile

This isn't hitting two birds with one stone, this is hitting one bird with another bird.

Good stuff IMO.

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AIDs and Cancer and very bad things like that. Testing a flu shot or testing cosmetics on an animal is just horrible. Minor stuff can be tested on humans who are so desperate for cash that they volunteer themselves, and believe me, there are a lot of those.

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Where do you draw the line between minor and large? Flu can kill. I'd agree that cosmetics shouldn't be tested on animals.

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I'd like to know precisely how this particular strand of HIV has been made harmless, as the article states, and what garuntee they have that it'll stay that way.

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Better article:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-ust020905.php

Abstract to scientific paper:
http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPa...bs/nm1192.html
i'm not payin 30 bux tho. some universities give access to sites like these for free.

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Originally Posted by Rye

Animal testing = :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

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Animal testing is fine, so long as it is testing on something productive. We are trying to cure diseases here, not test perfumes and shampoo's. I say it's ok to test on an animal if it's going to have a REALy benefeit. This just might.

theres a certain disease humans get that kill monkeys when you go near them
yes animal testing is bad but like it has been said it's for life saving sure a few mice will die but think of how many human lives could be saved.

so hows this CSM going to kill the cancer?

I dont know. Does it work something like instead of breaking down the defensive system the way AIDS would it breaks down the cancer cells?

yeah but once it's purpose has been served what use is it? it could go out of control and break down you're immunity cells. but does the CSM break it down enough for the body to get rid of it or the kemotheropy to be quicker and less harmfull

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

Animal testing is fine, so long as it is testing on something productive. We are trying to cure diseases here, not test perfumes and shampoo's. I say it's ok to test on an animal if it's going to have a REALy benefeit. This just might.

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i beg to differ ALL animal testing is wrong if people find it moraly wrong to test on humans then how is it so that they will test on so called lesser speices
sorry for any misspelings

What the hell can we do? They cant just inject HIV and Cancer into a human un tested. That would be murder. If you allow that to happen even if the test subject wanted to die it would mess up alot of the laws on murder. Even if that was aloud to happen it would only be used by people who want to die and the rtesearch would get nowhere and the amount of lives they're trying to save would have to wait. Why dont you quit bitching and offer a suggestion instead?

what would you rather have a few animal's lives for millions or manslaughter and murder and saving millions why don't you just go protest or something it's not as if we care and like Destai said the scientists could be jailed for life and there would be no cure so just stop mouthin off and going against something that could save millions of lives not just human but animals aswell,

you see it's like that but when it gets to perfumes and cleaning products testing thats a whole different

fine i will keep my opinions to myself

thats better

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Humans aren't the only mammals that get cancer. Cancer is basically just an uncontrollable burst of cells dividing and blocking the functions of those cells around them. <-- (WAY oversimplification)

Different Cancers generally behave in the same manner, even cross-species. Therefore, this research could also benefit veterinary medicine as well.

Testing on mice and rats provides a faster view of what the various treatments do because of the increased metabolism in both these types of animal which makes the treatment run its course a lot faster than it would in humans. If one mouse dies, the other mice around it do not grieve and wail or alter their behavior in the least. In fact, a lot of times, the other mice will eat the dead one. When a human dies, the entire community feels the loss.

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Originally Posted by Shoden

what would you rather have a few animal's lives for millions or manslaughter and murder and saving millions why don't you just go protest or something it's not as if we care and like Destai said the scientists could be jailed for life and there would be no cure so just stop mouthin off and going against something that could save millions of lives not just human but animals aswell,

you see it's like that but when it gets to perfumes and cleaning products testing thats a whole different

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Few animals lives are taken? Actually, it's more like 22-100 million. A YEAR.

:) nicely said couldnt have put that better in any way

Thats true but while you can easily point that out and moan (which you didnt do in this post) one thing anti animal testing followers never do is come up with a suggestion and if it stays that way its not going to change.