I wonder what would have happened if...

As opposed to inner dialogue, I think you'd prefer physical representation of how he FEELS when he's around her. The heart and body say completely different things than the mind.

Inner voice: She's annoying.
Subconscious truth: She's growing on me.

Inner voice: Why is she still talking?
Subconscious truth: I love her voice.

Inner voice: She's making stupid faces at me.
Subconscious truth: *romantic sigh* She's beautiful.

Inner voice: I need some time alone.
Subconscious truth: Never go away.

Inner voice: She can't respect my personal space.
Subconscious truth: Get closer.

Inner voice: GO AWAY!!!
Subconscious truth: I'm going insane! I want to kiss her!

Maybe if the game started In Lagunas time and you had visions of the feuture with Squall, man that be weird.

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Well...see, i dont know if your a guy or girl, but if your a girl, i'll assume you just dont know this. But, guys dont even know their in love until its too late. our inner dialouge doesnt even help ourselves out. Men are pretty much going at it blind folded on the inside. Go Squall!

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Yeah...how true, last year I was going with this girl, and no matter what I did, I couldn't figure her out. I thought she was SO annoying, but I couldn't take my eyes off her. At that time I guess I didn't know I maybe "loved" her, but it dosen't really matter cuz' she dumped me. (kinda like the Squall and Rinoa relationship, but Squall dosen't get dumped...)

they should make the Ultimecia's point of view of the game :p !!

It would have been nice if they had made the following more clear.

1. Squall was Laguna's son

2. Rinoa is Ultimecia

3. Whether what happened in the end was really what Ultimecia wanted.

Basically, some more developement on Ultimecia would have been good.

R!=U

and that's all I'm saying about that.

for the time being anyways.

I like Shiva's list. The orphanage thing was kind of dumb, and it would have been nice to see some more involvement of the other characters.

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Originally Posted by Zellaw

Maybe if the game started In Lagunas time and you had visions of the feuture with Squall, man that be weird.

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Ha,yeah!^_^

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Originally Posted by Starry Relm

I'd really want them to go into more detail about Rinoa and Seifer's relationship. They could've done a lot with that, but instead chose for it to not go anywhere. It was clear that they both felt something for each other and it would've been nice to maybe see some kind of flashback at the very least. I guess that's just another one of FFVIII's under developed plots. I'd also want the other characters to have more of the spotlight. They focused too much on Squall and Rinoa when they had quite a few other great characters that they could've done quite a bit with. Don't get me wrong though, I loved FFVIII, I just would've liked for it to have some other more developed plots. :)

Edit: Oh yeah, and I wonder would've happened if Squall and Quistis were the main pairing and then Rinoa ended up with Seifer? :p

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I agree. They did focus a little too much on Squall and Rinoa. I love VIII too, but some character development for the other characters wouldn't hurt.

By the way, Rinoa got in some trouble more than 7 times. Not that I have something against that. That's just......whoa.

Anyway, what do you think things would be like if Squall fell for Quistis, Rinoa died somehow (maybe from falling off the Garden, or while she was in space, or whatever), and those missiles thrashed Balamb?

R isn't U :p They should have made that more clear :p
(Then again one of the things I like about this game is that they leave so much to think about ^^ )

I don't think Rinoa gets herself in trouble a lot. Only once I recall.

I was pretty content with character devellopment by the way. Side quests revealed a *lot* about them all. And showed a lot of history of the world they lived in as well. Like the whole Hyne bit, a lot of people missed that. Then again others didn't and wrote great fanfics based on that information. :) (SPOILER)(For those interested; the most lengthy part of information about Hyne can be found on the White SeeD ship ;) )

Oh and as a side note, Mercen-X's post covers Squalls feelings perfectly imho ^^

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Originally Posted by Rinoa Heartilly

R isn't U :p They should have made that more clear :p
(Then again one of the things I like about this game is that they leave so much to think about ^^ )

I don't think Rinoa gets herself in trouble a lot. Only once I recall.

I was pretty content with character devellopment by the way. Side quests revealed a *lot* about them all. And showed a lot of history of the world they lived in as well. Like the whole Hyne bit, a lot of people missed that. Then again others didn't and wrote great fanfics based on that information. :) (SPOILER)(For those interested; the most lengthy part of information about Hyne can be found on the White SeeD ship ;) )

Oh and as a side note, Mercen-X's post covers Squalls feelings perfectly imho ^^

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I agreed with Mercen-X's post, too. :) It's not like he hated Rinoa at fist, then all of the sudden he fell in love. It was actually love at first sight. I can tell.

I'm well aware that other characters get more character development on side quests. ;)

She got in trouble WAAAY more than once. I listed all the times below. Highlight to read.

1--When she tried to give Edea that ring, she got put under a spell.
2--Shortly after that, monsters come after her.
3--She almost falls off Balamb Garden.
4--She gets possessed.
5--She almost dies in space.
6--She almost gets sealed in the Sorceress Memorial.
7--Adel grabs her, sucks power away from her. She's could die.

I decided to start all over on FFVIII. I wanted to some time ago. I'm well aware I missed some stuff. :)

I didn't say she didn't get in trouble more than once. I said that she didn't get herself (or others for that matter) in trouble more than once.

The first point you listed, was completely her own fault. Stupid and irrational. The second point I'd put together with the first one: after all (SPOILER)If Edea had just walked out, without sending the lizards after Rinoa, then Rinoa wouldn't have been in trouble at all now would she ;)
I'll stick within the spoiler warnings for the next few, since they are indeed spoilers :)
3-- She hardly smashed G-Garden into B-garden herself now did she. And she was there helping, not just idly lounging or whatnot. Further more I can only speak for myself on this ofcourse, but I can only hope I'd have her quick reflexes and be able to hold on as well as she did. Most typical heroines can't even manage that.
4--Hardly of her own choice, I'm sure you'll agree. ^_~
5--Direct consequence of 4.
6--Same as above. Yet this is a decision she makes for the better good of the world. This took guts imho. Squall was being 'selfish' for wanting to save her. Thank goodness he was though ^_~
7--You may have a point there: she should have been more on guard considering what they were getting themselves into. But again not really something she got herself into ^^

I do understand what you mean though, she does indeed get in trouble a lot. But if she wouldn't, the story would not have happened, so it did serve a purpose. And she did try to sort things out on her own, rather than just 'be rescued' (even though it did turn out like that in the end usually :p )

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Originally Posted by ShivaBlizzard8

As a writer, there's somewhat of a rule that you have to introduce an idea (ie. that they may have grown up together) with hints early on. It can't come out of nowhere. I mean, they don't even say that GFs cause memory loss until this point! LOL.

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Well, there ARE hints that using GFs may cause bad things in the beginning of the game (I don't remember any details, but I'm sure there are some quotes early in the game).

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Originally Posted by ShivaBlizzard8

As a writer, there's somewhat of a rule that you have to introduce an idea (ie. that they may have grown up together) with hints early on. It can't come out of nowhere. I mean, they don't even say that GFs cause memory loss until this point! LOL.

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Well, there ARE hints that using GFs may cause bad things in the beginning of the game (I don't remember any details, but I'm sure there are some quotes early in the game).

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In the very beginning, when you sit down on your chair to retrieve your first two GFs and log on to the computer, there are other options that give you a lot of information about the garden, sorceresses and even memory loss from GFs. I just saw this a couple days ago and made note of it.

As strange as memory loss due to GFs is, it wasn't just 'created out of nowhere' at a certain part of the game. The game's story is planned in scenarios BEFORE they start developing you know.

interesting. i wish i could control Squall when he went back to the past. then i can change time while deliberately stepping on a twig or kicking aside a rock. some outcomes may result...

1) Headmaster Cid is gay.
2) Quistis would be a slave queen.
3) the only GFs are Diablos, Bahamut, Cerberus, Tiamat, and Griever.
4) Edea and Laguna are married.

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