Not likely. Abortions have been around for a loooooooong time, and infanticide even longer. Me, I prefer abortion.Quote:
I wish it was never dicovered or put into the mainstream market.
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Not likely. Abortions have been around for a loooooooong time, and infanticide even longer. Me, I prefer abortion.Quote:
I wish it was never dicovered or put into the mainstream market.
It's not that easy. Plus, I heard that doing it more than three times or so, you get to damage your womb to the point of being sterlile. I'm not sure about the scientifical value of that, but I just heard it.Quote:
Originally Posted by udsuna
Not true. Abortion is actually safer than childbirth. However, people who get multiple abortions are fortunatly in the minority. Frankly, I think after a certain number, they should impliment mandatory sterilization.Quote:
It's not that easy. Plus, I heard that doing it more than three times or so, you get to damage your womb to the point of being sterlile. I'm not sure about the scientifical value of that, but I just heard it.
mandatory to me seems so...... barbaric.
to honestly say there is any circumstance under which you would forcibly sterlize anyone is wrong. i wouldn't castrate a rapist or pedophile, i certainly wouldn't do the same for some idiot, slut, or junkie.
there are other ways to prevent conception except for sterilization. semi-permnant options which can be remvoed or kept as long as possubly and that do not require to remember to take a pill or open a foil packet.
but to maim someone for such a reason is appauling.
lol thats so damn true they teach abstanence.(check spelling.)Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
BTW childbirth is more dangerous and its the most dangerous for european women due to the fac tthat there hips aren't as big as the other ethnicities.YEah a lot of them just split in half and die during child birth during the middle ages.
This is no joke... Hell, I didn't even get "sex education" until my sophomore year in highschool, it lasted less than a week, and all they did was tell me not to have sex. Ha... This countries education system is such a joke.Quote:
Sexual education in America (most of it, at least)... "Don't have sex". I'm not kidding.
To me it felt like they were almost making us want to have sex more because they're treating it like this obscuere taboo thing that you can't do for some unknown reason...like a taunting almost.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
I agree though, if we worked together we could accomplish alot more, but it seems the bulk of America (I dunno about the rest of the world) just wants to stand on one side yelling "PRO-LIFE" or "PRO-CHOICE"....so eh.
When I had my first sex ed class I think I was in 4th grade then we had one in 6th then 7th grade. Each went a little bit more in detail then the last. Then my junior year we had health independant living which showed us how to live on our own from keeping a check book to carring for a child. You couldn't graduate unless you took the class. So I wouldn't say all of americas school systems don't teach you anything. Oh wait that's about all they taught us. So basically in other schools where there sex ed sucks my school had a good sex ed program but crappy everything else :p
Hey, that's better than alot of schools...it had something good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
Ouch.. DMKA.. that was low.. though true for so many :(
Our schools sex ed.. wasn't Don't Have Sex. It actually told us how everything worked etc. I think it was a 6 week program. 45 minutes a day... 5 days a week. Unfortunately we were 6th graders and are teacher was a bit.... shy?... any ways, the other guys loved making him go red in the face. Actually a couple of the "Sex Ed Movies" were... quite depicting... I had never seen anything like it till then... so my morals my parents taught me kicked in.. and I closed my eyes :eek: .
Yeah.. I didn't learn too much from the movies.. though by the end of the class I could tell you how the male and female reproduction organs worked.. I couldn't tell you what they looked like heh.
Yeah blushing teacher was fun :P
Point taken. Norplant, then?Quote:
to honestly say there is any circumstance under which you would forcibly sterlize anyone is wrong. i wouldn't castrate a rapist or pedophile, i certainly wouldn't do the same for some idiot, slut, or junkie.
forgive my ignorance but what is norplant?
and can i just ask what is wrong with school sex ed being "sex is wrong". what else do you want to teach 13 year olds? "sex is cool go out and do it but do it safely" yeah cos that would bring down teenage pregnancy levels awfully quick.........
what other message is there to give 13 year old kid (minor and illegal to have sex" you cannot even legally or morally teach a child of that age that sex is a good thing to do.
the rise in teenage pregnancy's is due to the de-moralisation of the media and therefore (what is left of) soceity. kids see sex daily all around them and that is why sex at 11, 12, 13 is becoming so rife. to then go out and tell these kids that sex is cool is a huge mistake.
if sex was toned down on tv then possibly that ideas that are being discussed here might be implementable. but also a lack of thought in society also accounts for teenage pregnancy. you only need to look at the backgrounds, parents, friends, environment from which teenage pregnancyies come from to see that is a society and possibly class problem.
you need to fix this first before you can go out telling kids sex is great.
also while we are on the subject. does anyone know if england still has section 28?
I have never been to GB, but know family who have been there. It seems they show nudity on public television with no problem, like its not a big deal. Forgive me, but isnt showing someones boobs a huge sex symbol or something? Yet we hear more abortions in America than we do in GB. Its the bad philosphy in this country that we have abortions for, the ignorance of truth, but the media does plaY a part in thisQuote:
if sex was toned down on tv then possibly that ideas that are being discussed here might be implementable. but also a lack of thought in society also accounts for teenage pregnancy. you only need to look at the backgrounds, parents, friends, environment from which teenage pregnancyies come from to see that is a society and possibly class problem.
well i don't know by what you mean with no problem..... mostly it's after 9 (watershed) (doesn't stop kids watching it though) unless it is in like an educational way.
I've often thought that if the fervently anti-abortion lobby spent as much time caring for the welfare of babies AFTER they were born as compared to before they were born, then the abortion rate would plummet; same for contraception, sex education and many other things that the religious right despise.
But it's not all "their fault"... parents should take more responsibility. You just have to look at the Netherlands, a country so liberal with its view to sex, yet really low abortion, teen pregnancy and STD rates. It CAN work.