Removing term limits for the president

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People who vote for people like Reagan deserve the results.

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I agree with this, but I certainly don't want to have to live through it.

Not gonna happen. Period. You are basically asking to appeal what the forefathers of America established, and it is an extremely rare thing to do, but for Bush to put his shelfish reasons into the Constitution is complete ludicrious

Bush doesn't have anything to do with this, as far as I see.

I stand corrected

While the prospect of a third term under Bush is frightening, the term limit probably isn't necessary, but I would only support this with the abolition of the Electoral College so that the popular vote really was the deciding factor. Oh, and I also would want more parties to choose from (and that actually stand a chance of getting elected).

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Not gonna happen. Period. You are basically asking to appeal what the forefathers of America established, and it is an extremely rare thing to do, but for Bush to put his shelfish reasons into the Constitution is complete ludicrious

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Well, is it really going against what the "forefathers" established? To my understanding, they wanted goverment run by the people, with a leader chosen by the people. So, if the majority of the people liked a president enough to vote him/her in a third term, isn't that still going with the whole idea?

Of course, I may be wrong. Politics usually aren't my thing and I'm going through U.S. History this coming school year.

Anyway, as for the topic, I can see how it can be good or bad, and ultimately, I suppose that if a President was doing that good or the majority of people supported him/her, it wouldn't be terrible to have the President go a third term.

Oh god no.

While I can't agree with the reason the amendment was put there in the first place, it's a relief knowing that Bush can't run for another term. Most of the Republican hopefuls for 2008 I don't mind, at least the best publicised ones. But if Bush were allowed to run for a third term... *shudder*

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Originally Posted by Rase

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Not gonna happen. Period. You are basically asking to appeal what the forefathers of America established, and it is an extremely rare thing to do, but for Bush to put his shelfish reasons into the Constitution is complete ludicrious

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Anyway, as for the topic, I can see how it can be good or bad, and ultimately, I suppose that if a President was doing that good or the majority of people supported him/her, it wouldn't be terrible to have the President go a third term.

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Well, seeing how more than half of the United States citizens dislike how Bush is running the country, I think I can saftley say that he will not get a chance to run for a third election by a popularity vote

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Well, seeing how more than half of the United States citizens dislike how Bush is running the country, I think I can saftley say that he will not get a chance to run for a third election by a popularity vote

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He can always start another war, and then people will vote him cause "in times of war it's better to stay strong and not change our leaders". Hey, I have actually heard that from people. Isn't it lolersome?

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You are basically asking to appeal what the forefathers of America established, and it is an extremely rare thing to do, but for Bush to put his shelfish reasons into the Constitution is complete ludicrious

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The forefathers established nothing about two-terms.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Well, seeing how more than half of the United States citizens dislike how Bush is running the country, I think I can saftley say that he will not get a chance to run for a third election by a popularity vote

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Yes, I was speaking in a more general sense, such as future presidents, which is why I used him/her.

Not gonna do it. Wouldn't be prudent. At this juncture.

Oh lawd, not another term.

No way it will happen, and I wouldn't want it to...though I wouldn't care if the current president wasn't the current president.

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

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You are basically asking to appeal what the forefathers of America established, and it is an extremely rare thing to do, but for Bush to put his shelfish reasons into the Constitution is complete ludicrious

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The forefathers established nothing about two-terms.

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It's been a huge tradition, started with Washington. It wasn't put into law until the '40s when Roosevelt took on a third and fouth term to win in WW2. After that, they amended the Constitution to allow for only two terms.

I find this strange because of the general way this administration is behaving. Part of me suspects that there may be more too this than meets the eye.

You all keep saying 'oh no not another term' while forgetting voting has a part to play in this. If the majority of America votes Bush again then it's a democratic decision by the majority of Americans. If Americans don't vote Bush again then you won't have to worry about another term & his replacement will be a party decision, and the party won't want a candidate who no one votes for. Either way it is true democracy in action.

You forefathers never made this Amendment, as has been said it was done in the 1940s, in any case why worry what your forefather would think? Not everything old is good. Most is dated. Your forefathers burnt witches at the stake & conducted slavery, they have been stopped. True Democracy lies at the hands of the people. If a democratic decision is take out of their hands & put in the hands of a Constitution it falls short of a true democracy.