You're definitely not saying that here, thanks. -- foa
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You're definitely not saying that here, thanks. -- foa
I think, either the offender served his debt to society or he didn't. Was the amount of jail time served a just punishment? If so, back off when the person is released. If not, change the punishment. I personally agree with the latter. Make the punishments harsher. Vigilante justice by the townsfolk after a criminal is released isn't the answer. Clearly most people would prefer that child molesters recieve life imprisonment, or at least, life in an institution. I would agree with that. Child molesters are irredeemable. They can't change. The law should acknowledge that. The common citizen though, should back off. It's not the place of the average joe to continue an excon's punishment long after release.
so no one belives that a person can change?
The statistics show that it's so unlikely in this case that it's not worth the risk it poses to our children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fithos
It’s simple:
If he follows the conditions of his release and stays off the property of the Day Care centre leave him the hell alone, no doubt jail has changed his unique “fancies”. However, if he tries anything, crucify the bastard.
Meh, not much else to do really. I can’t believe crap like this actually makes it into the news. Unfortunately people are idiots, and make issues out of everything, which inevitably leads to making things worse. Why should we care? It’s not as if it effects the entire world…
I can't believe anyone would want to give this repeat sex offender another chance around children. "Well he spent some time in jail, again, so lets see if he ruins more lives before we care" does not cut it for me. Is anyone in this thread in touch with reality?
No, not really. I just don't care...
I've never heard anyone be cold enough to not care about children being sexually abused. That's pretty disturbing.
Lol, you make me sound like a monster, simply because I don’t care about something that doesn’t directly effect me. I’m sure there are lots of people who feel the same way, yet wouldn’t admit it. Oh well, people will do as they will…
So should we keep people who've shoplifted from ever walking into a store again? If so, awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
The thing is, legally we can't punish the guy any more unless he offends again. You can't, in theory, legislate on posibility. I certainly don't like it, but from a legal standpoint nothing can really be done unless he does it again.
Shlup has got it right.
so why dont we just kill them then?
I could ask the same thing about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fithos
As opposed to keeping someone in jail for an undetermined ("months andQuote:
Originally Posted by Tidus5
even years") amount of time until their trial can be heard? What
happened to innocent until proven guilty?
If by getting off scott free you mean being found innocent by a jury ofQuote:
only to have their conviction carried out months and even years later. Even then, there stands a chance that they might get off scott free.
peers, then maybe you're right. But this is the best system that we've
found that works today. Does that mean it's perfect? By no means. But
does it make the world a sad place for a system to fail at times? Hardly.
People get hurt. People die. It happens. But it doesn't mean that the
system which allows this to happen is inherently bad.
Now you're just ranting. I didn't say you can't get mad at a situationQuote:
Where is the justice in that? If this is everyones idea of 'justice', then I want no part in it. How can you heal the wounds of the families that were affected by these crimes? As a person whose life has been personally affected by a sex offender (my sister was molested by our step-grandfather), I think I have the right to be personally angered by this news. But as you say, it must be ME who is making this world a sad place, right?
like this, I said that toiling over other people in the world's despair in
turn only creates more despair. Do something about it, turn the anger
into something positive instead of creating more negativity.
Exactly. I'm with you Throne, and as you said there are probably otherQuote:
Originally Posted by Throne
people who agree too but are ashamed to admit it.
People who commit multiple murders are put in prison for life, not
people who molest children. To put the two on the same level is simply
rediculous. Also, a ton of people keep referring to statistics, but nobody
has yet to post any of these statistics and/or sources. Makes me a
little concerned that you're either making it up or too busy hearing
yourself talk to look it up. The burden of proof lies on you guys, so let's
see some sources. I'm not saying that I don't believe that it's true, I'm
saying that if you're going to bother arguing using facts, try to prevent
those facts as such instead of being lazy.
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