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This is exactly why some people are far too flippant when giving out EoEO bans. Sure if there was an abortion thread and someone simply posts ‘lol abortions rock’, by all means ban them. However, if you allow a thread entitled ‘Do you prefer Hentai or Porn?’ to remain open to begin with, you should perhaps be slightly more tolerant of the more ‘light hearted’ posts. In the end, what’s worse though? Someone who posts a few words as a joke, or someone who tries to force there beliefs and cultural identity onto those who disagree?

Expect more of the latter, now that you’ve combined EoEO with EoTW…

I find it very hard to force anything on anyone over the internet. Perhaps you can use the warn button when you think you see that kind of thing happening, and we'll look into it.

The current tolerance for spam in the Eoeo forum is strict for a reason.

I like the fact that we are able to discuss mature topics. How exactly would EoFF have been more mature if it didn't allow discussion of sex-related topics (in a mature forum)? Then when such threads are allowed, we become less mature? That's completely backwards.

Maybe if someone made a "my farts smell really horrible, do yours?" thread in EoEO you'd have an argument, but I think you are confusing censorship with maturity.

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

I find it very hard to force anything on anyone over the internet.

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Exactly. It IS impossible to force your opinions on others over the internet. Thus, these posts are pointless and should be considered in the same category as spam.

As I already stated, I have no problem with mature topics.. But, as stated there are some that feel like they belong in Gen. Chat, which brings me to my next question.. Are mature topics to be kept specifically in EoEO? Can't some go in Gen. Chat for the more casual discussion that some take?

I find it hard to take seriously anyone who posts stuff like this:

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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

This is EoEO. It isn’t about winning, it’s about pretending that you have a point so you can secretly spam.

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Speaking of which...

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Originally Posted by Autumn Rain

While I do agree that having the right to discuss adult topics seriously is a good thing, I also have to agree with Dr Unne that certain topics (for example, the Masterbation thread) seems to be there just for the sake of talking about it.

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first thing i thought of when i read Dr Unnes post, and i agree, and also the hentai or porn thing is quite uncalled for, seems like in the short time i have been here EoEO has gone downhill fast, from serious conversation about emotional problems to crap that people seem to post just for fun thats too inapropriate for general chat

But, my point is, if it must be there.. Why can't the more casual ones be in Gen Chat? EoEO is for serious topics, something that mature topics will not always be.

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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

Exactly. It IS impossible to force your opinions on others over the internet. Thus, these posts are pointless and should be considered in the same category as spam.

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You would have a point if it is obvious that this was the poster's intention instead of discussing the issue. It is hard to see that, but if you do see it please use the warn button.

Any questionable material you see at the forums can easily be looked into by staff if you use the warn button. It is a very useful tool. We are only human (well except kishi and Archie, but they don't go in eoeo), so we apologize if we cannot catch everything.

like Dr Unne said he doesnt expect anything to change and thats good cuz prolly nothing will, basically its up to the users who are mature enough and know better but as of the masterbation thread made by chris who is, i dunno how to say it, an experienced poster here? obviously you cant think the best of people. just because people know the rules doesnt mean they will folow them

I reckon it should be fine for people to discuss 'mature' topics, such as sexual matters, provided it's done in a suitably sensible manner. Cid has said he doesn't particularly mind sex discussions, and EoEO is the ideal place for a serious thread on those issues.[q=Autumn Rain]Are mature topics to be kept specifically in EoEO? Can't some go in Gen. Chat for the more casual discussion that some take?[/q]EoFF strives to maintain a 'family-friendly' atmosphere... so sex discussions in GC wouldn't be appropriate, in my opinion. They'd get spammed up with innuendo and inappropriate garbage within miliseconds. At least people can be EoEO banned for messing up a thread that way; but with GC, spam is virtually inevitable. Under the 'family friendly' policy, I think it's fine if there's somewhere people can discuss sensitive issues in a mature fashion... but giving everyone a free ticket to spam the place with smut would be counterproductive.

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Originally Posted by eestlinc

I find it hard to take seriously anyone who posts stuff like this:

Speaking of which...

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At least I’m honest about it :p

[q=Big D]I reckon it should be fine for people to discuss 'mature' topics, such as sexual matters, provided it's done in a suitably sensible manner. Cid has said he doesn't particularly mind sex discussions, and EoEO is the ideal place for a serious thread on those issues.[/q]
That pretty much says everything that needed to be said, in my opinion.

1) It's been given the OK by the big guy.
2) We only allow it if it's being discussed in a mature manner.
EDIT: 3) Murd also hit a strong point with the 'use the warn button' bit.

How exactly is talking about sex, stds and masturbation, in eoeo filtering out all the morons, not family friendly? It's not elderly friendly, is what it is. Families talk to their kids about sex, and if they don't it's better to learn it here from sexperts like Shlup than while you're putting your first condom on or something.

If I had my way I'd ban about fifteen people right about now, but I don't so yeah. I'm probably just bitter, but discussion was a lot better a couple years ago.