No wonder Sohpie and Adel never want to talk about being in the Holocaust. Guess it was just too hard on them to keep up with the lie. Oh trauma!
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No wonder Sohpie and Adel never want to talk about being in the Holocaust. Guess it was just too hard on them to keep up with the lie. Oh trauma!
Had Hitler not been a lunatic, he might have actually learnt something from Machiavelli. As it was, he was so paranoid and convinced of the invulnerabilty of his armies that he sealed Germany's fate.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
Incidentally, Mahmoud gave me a new EoFF theme, so I've no particular quarrel with him.
hitler was too coked up on methamphetamines to bother thinking of such a thing as discretion by that point.
Ok I disagree, and agree, first off I believe the holocaust happened and that it was a very terrible thing. (I acctually cant even comprehend how some people can to that to each other. It sickens me.)
But I have to say one of the biggest blunders of the 20th century was to give the displaced jews their own country in the middle east, not because of what it is. but because of where it is. They gave a land that is holy to many religions, to people of a certain religion.
I never saw the reason, for example, imagine giving Washington DC back to England and New York city back to the Nedtherlands, simply because history said that these areas once belonged to those countries. Many Americans would be up in arms at this, much of thier national pride is in these two cities, and yet they were taken away without their concent and given to another group of peoples who have no more claim to it than the US.
No western country wanted to give an inch of land to the Isrealis, and so they gave them land that wasn't theirs, and now all we have is bloodshed, if anything The area that is now Isreal should have been made neutral territory guarded by a multicultural defence force so that peoples from all religions and nationalities could visit it in peace. But No once again logic fails.
Oh and do i need to remind you that the Isreali armed forces have been known to attack Palestine and that Isreal does have a nuclear arsenal of its own. Not exactly the victim in this scenario if you ask me. Isreal also bombed a Iraqi nuclear plant in the 80's to prevent the Iraqis from potentially getting the Bomb.
Personally I think there may be some method in that guys inconcievable amount of madness. But seriously to say the holocaust never happend now thats just looney.
Facts don't happen.
'Holocaust-disprovement' is nothing new. However, seeing it from the Muslim side is a bit new. Up until now, it was Neo-Nazis that made those crazy statements (which I'm not even going to address, it would be like trying to prove the sun is actually there), but seeing as the Arab Muslims alligned themselves with the Nazis in history already, this isn't too surprising.
This is meant to take grounds off the Jews' right to live, and do so where they live now, in their homeland. Futile efforts, I say... but seeing as military force failed time and again, 'moral' effort is all they have left. I wish them good luck, but I don't think it's going to cut it. :)
Yeah, real ass-kickers, aren't they? :)Quote:
the Isreali armed forces have been known to attack Palestine and that Isreal does have a nuclear arsenal of its own. Not exactly the victim in this scenario if you ask me. Isreal also bombed a Iraqi nuclear plant in the 80's to prevent the Iraqis from potentially getting the Bomb.
Considering that their people are still getting blown up on a daily basis, I'd say not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Angel
lol war
The land was originally Jewish land, that the Muslims had invaded and displaced the elsewhere -- places throughout Europe, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureEmperor
That's not a bad idea. Can we give away California, too?Quote:
I never saw the reason, for example, imagine giving Washington DC back to England and New York city back to the Nedtherlands, simply because history said that these areas once belonged to those countries.
You really think that would work? Muslims would allow Jews and Christians to be on their holy lands?Quote:
if anything The area that is now Isreal should have been made neutral territory guarded by a multicultural defence force so that peoples from all religions and nationalities could visit it in peace.
Do we need to remind you of the constant terrorist attacks Palestine (and the rest of the surrounding area) launches against Israeli civilians?Quote:
Oh and do i need to remind you that the Isreali armed forces have been known to attack Palestine and that Isreal does have a nuclear arsenal of its own. Not exactly the victim in this scenario if you ask me.
Yeah. Good stuff. That was the one France gave to them, bunch of idiots, and one of the pilots on that mission was the same Israeli that went down with the Columbia, I believe.Quote:
Isreal also bombed a Iraqi nuclear plant in the 80's to prevent the Iraqis from potentially getting the Bomb.
Yes, but how magnificently they are doing it!Quote:
Considering that their people are still getting blown up on a daily basis, I'd say not really.
.... okay, that's enough. XD
Yes. Ilan Ramon was his name. I think he was the leader of the group of planes that led the attack on the reactor.Quote:
one of the pilots on that mission was the same Israeli that went down with the Columbia, I believe.
So what? Should we give half of the United States back to the natives? I think not.Quote:
The land was originally Jewish land, that the Muslims had invaded and displaced the elsewhere -- places throughout Europe, for example.
lol.Quote:
That's not a bad idea. Can we give away California, too?
lol.Quote:
You really think that would work? Muslims would allow Jews and Christians to be on their holy lands?
But had the natives suddenly gained power and numbers, and re-claimed the land, would anyone speak against it? I should hope not.Quote:
So what? Should we give half of the United States back to the natives? I think not.
Yeah, I would, because in order to take that land back they would have to kill a ridiculous amount of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Angel
Oh please do. Let us have our own country and you can have you're fields of trailer parks full of toothless people who don't know what a curb is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
But then who are we going to draft?Quote:
Originally Posted by DMKA
There's always the few people who can count to ten and know how to tie their drillboots in Houston.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine