I would say that 8 had the best system, 7 the best storyline, 10 the best sidequests. 1-6 are good in their way, but its just nostalga to me.
I would say that 8 had the best system, 7 the best storyline, 10 the best sidequests. 1-6 are good in their way, but its just nostalga to me.
Best because you could switch characters on the fly? Thus making it just about as easy as FF7? Or best because it used the same option commands, atb/turn-based set-up as pretty much every other quality FF game?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathKnight
Edit: Shot in the dark, but have you even played them all? ^_~
Yes I have played them all, well except V and VI, but-ah FFX had the best system, period, at least in my eyes. You could switch characters, turns were based in such a smooth way that it was actually fun to train for hours, UNLIKE in other FFs I've played. Weapons looked kick ass, you could customize your weapons, everyone had a specific job, such as Yuna being the white mage, Lulu the black mage, etc. unlike FF VIII and FF VII. I don't know everything just worked better and the summoning thing kicked ass. I liked how Yuna interacted with the summons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyk
STORYWISE? you must be joking. Those two were the WORST storywise. lets deal with these two one at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathKnight
FFVIII: first of all, the whole moody bishonen thing who blossoms into a decent individual has been done to death for over twenty years. Squall's development didnt even make sense, are we supposed to believe this guy, who's been in a social coma for more than a decade, has the skills to be a motivational speaker, military tactician, diplomatic representative, and kind to all creatures great and small? rinoa was the original slut, seifer, Edea, and Ultimecia are the Apotheosis of lame villains, none of the main characters save for squall and Rinoa (the least likeable ones at that), got any development outside of Disk 1. Ugh, that game was a storytelling train wreck.
FFX-2: Okay, this meeting of the script writers for FFX-2 will now come to order. In the last game Yuna went from sacrificial lamb to learning how to live, to loosing her greatest love and becoming a world leader from that tradgedy, and given the responsibility of teaching all of spira, who also lost their religion and way, a new way of living. So what are we gonna do with her now? Why were gonna strip all her clothes off, turn her into a pop star, remove nearly all the gravatis and pathos from the ending and put in ALOT of fey bishonen and slutty outfits. Not to mention squall is guest starring in drag, which remarkably makes him look a bit more masculine now that he's off the mascara. It'll be a hit I tell you.
Ugh, looking back Im seeing the decline of a once great franchise. Thanks a padload Nomura! :rolleyes2
X-2's story was lame, but it had a great combat system. As far as stories go, I don't think the plots have gotten much deeper since the 16 bit heyday. FFVI and CT both have plots that can easily stand on their own when compared to more recent games. In fact, you could argue that the Frog/Magus story had a lot more depth to it than most current hero/villain rivalries.
I agree about FFX-2. Incredibly stupid story and thought behind it. But the battle systems speed had me captivated. I was hoping FFXII would use a similar fast-paced battle system (where commands overlap and can form combos to do more dmg than normal)
I don't think plots are really the issue. I'd have to stand by character portrayal and development being above par in comparison. We may not like Squall, but at least we get to know him. Unlike Crono
Stop clinging to the pathetic past and move on. They're not making the games for YOU. It's their game, it's their story, they did what they wanted to do, some people like it, others hate it, that's life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishin Ookami
-FF VII to me IS the worst FF in the PlayStation era, no interesting animation, lame soundtrack, OK materia system which gets annoying and unorganized, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME ending, I want a COMPLETE ending, I don't want some lame FMV. Just goes to show you that people alot of times just cling to the past as if it was that great.
anyway, I'm tired of TITANIC-based endings which have been done to DEATH as you say. FF NEEDED a happy and loving ending, Yuna deserved to find Tidus, it all felt good.
Yuna deserved to wallow in her misery without Titus.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathKnight
There are many more things I would like to say to you but I would be banned for saying them I bid you good day.
Sometimes you have to suspend your disbelief a little. Squall is comparable to pretty much all of those teenage meche pilots that pop up in anime all the time that for some reason are better strategists and pilots than most people twice there age, without prior training. The only thing we need to know is that Squall has been trained to act the way he does, as unrealistic as that might be for someone his age. Rinoa, as you said, is quite the slut. However, this makes her one of the most realistic characters in the series. She is pretty much the epitome of all girls her age. While I agree that Ultimecia isn’t half the antagonist as many others in the series, it’s not as if she needed any more development than she was given. She’s pretty much Zemus in that respect. While it’s true that Squall and Rinoa received the majority of the character development within the game, I never really thought this cheapened the story. Square really wanted to turn this one into a love story, so it’s understandable that most of the other characters were pushed out of the spotlight. This is improved upon in FFIX/FFX significantly; FFVIII was Square’s test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishin Ookami
Ultimately though, I really didn’t care that few of the characters were particularly memorable in FFVIII. The intriguing theory of Time Compression/Travel presented in the game, as well as the epic action sequences easily carry this game by themselves. FFVIII is a sci-fi, romance, fantasy and war epic all combined into a neat little game. I wouldn’t call it a ‘storytelling train reck’ by any means.
I don’t see your point here, you didn’t actually comment on the story line at all.Quote:
FFX-2: Okay, this meeting of the script writers for FFX-2 will now come to order. In the last game Yuna went from sacrificial lamb to learning how to live, to loosing her greatest love and becoming a world leader from that tradgedy, and given the responsibility of teaching all of spira, who also lost their religion and way, a new way of living. So what are we gonna do with her now? Why were gonna strip all her clothes off, turn her into a pop star, remove nearly all the gravatis and pathos from the ending and put in ALOT of fey bishonen and slutty outfits. Not to mention squall is guest starring in drag, which remarkably makes him look a bit more masculine now that he's off the mascara. It'll be a hit I tell you.
Do not bother with pointless comments such as this; it adds nothing to the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death Penalty
I do.Quote:
I don’t see your point here
He is saying that the writers story made no sense. Some times you have to read between the lines or just you know read the lines.:tongue:
How could you possibly get ’the story makes no sense’ from what he said? All he does is comment on how the characters look, and how Yuna can sing. Which part of that is so incredibly outrageous that it ruins the plot?
Hes saying there is no real plot.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Devourer Of Worlds
Awesome! A potentially interesting discussion gets sabotaged by "which one is the best" newbies. Typical south of the Archives nonsense.
Interesting comment, considering it makes no sense whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathKnight