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following this method I always tried to go to areas where they cast like colored spells to make the summoning easier. IE I went to mount pyre and would fight say: two hotdoggidys and a lavaboy and since they cast red spells anyways I'd kill with a red summon and get 3 shiny embers
well it turns out i already had the items:D :p i just thought i had to do somthing really hard to get them until i looked yes i know im a retard but i never look at that crap cause i like the weapon i have now but im gonna forge it anyways and see what i can do with it!