FF VII will beat them all?

^^And here are my votes (:confused: at how many should we stop the voting for this match?)

Cloud vs. Zidane = Cloud
Vincent vs. Amarant = Vincent
Cid vs. Freya = Freya
Aeris vs. Garnet = Garnet
Yuffie vs. Eiko = Yuffie
Barret vs. Steiner = Steiner (no votes for Steiner?? Did everyone forget his amazing swordskills?)
Tifa vs. Vivi = Tifa
Red XIII vs. Quina = Quina

Results:

Cloud vs. Zidane-- Victor: Zidane
Vincent vs. Amarant-- Victor: Vincent
Cid vs. Freya-- Victor: Freya
Aeris vs. Garnet-- Victor: Garnet
Yuffie vs. Eiko-- Victor: Yuffie
Barret vs. Steiner-- Victor: Steiner
Tifa vs. Vivi-- Victor: Vivi
Red XIII vs. Quina-- Victor: Red XIII

EDIT: Sorry, is this round over?:confused:

Cloud Vs. Zidane: 5 - 5 Tie
Vincent Vs. Amarant: 6 - 1 Vincent
Cid Vs. Freya: 7 - 1 Freya
Aeris Vs. Garnet: 7 - 0 Garnet
Yuffie Vs. Eiko: 6 - 3 Yuffie
Barret Vs. Steiner: 6 - 2 Steiner
Tifa Vs. ViVi: 6 - 3 Tifa
Red XIII Vs. Quina: 3 -3 Tie

This is what its at now. I say we end it after two more votes.

Is that the modified one including mine? :confused:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by vivi_ultima

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Behold the Void

I'm holding these to the fantastical realism standards I used to use when I was still doing the Grand Tournament.

Cloud vs. Zidane

Winner: Zidane

Zidane is a dagger wielder and he moves way too fast for Cloud's massive sword to reach. While Cloud moves quickly in Advent Children, assuming an equal level of growth and prowess Zidane would be moving faster still, and Cloud's weapon is just too damn big for him to get in a decent hit on Zidane. It might take Zidane quite a bit of time using hit and run tactics, but he wins out overall.

Vincent vs. Amarant

Vincent. Gun wounds are brutal and Amarant's close range focus and limited throw range make him an easy target for successive sniping by Vincent.

Cid vs. Freya

Freya. This one is a judgement by world and by apparent training. Freya is a warrior trained exclusively in the use of a spear. Cid is a pilot who happens to know how to use a Spear.

Aeris vs. Garnet

I'm going with Garnet on this one because she is a natural summoner. Aeris can have summon materia equipped, yes, but I'm going to give it to Garnet given that Garnet's ability to summon is limited only to her MP.

Yuffie vs. Eiko

Eiko. Ninja tricks pale in comparison to the Holy spell and Eiko's own Eidolons.

Barret vs. Steiner

Barret. Bullets have the force and propulsion to penetrate heavier armor, and have greater range than Steiner's sword. Not to mention the fact that Steiner is too slow to get close enough to Barret to do any damage.

Tifa vs. Vivi

Vivi. If a warrior faces a spellcaster and both go all-out, the spellcaster will win simply because they have a much higher damage output, range, and variety between their attacks. The limits of a spellcaster is that they have a limited MP which forces you to use it sparingly in normal battles. In this case, Vivi would drain all of his MP to win, and Tifa wouldn't stand a chance.

Red XIII vs. Quina

This is an interesting one but I'm going to give it to Red XIII, because he's a lot faster than Quina is. Quina's Blue Magic is potent, but with Red XIII's own magical prowess and sheer speed he would win out eventually.

---

About Cloud VS Zidane:
I disagree, the hit rate Omnislash can does is high, it's impossible to avoid, Zidane is pathetic.

About Cid VS Freya:
hm, I might reconsider this...

Yuffie VS Eiko:
hm, this is one is tough, Yuffie have a high evade rate and very fast, while Eiko's magic is strong, In FFIX, you can avoid magic, so Yuffie is teh best choice, summon isn't a factor, Eiko's summon is pathetic, Garnet summon is the best (I prefer Yuna).

Tifa VS Vivi:
Tifa will win, Tifa is a fighter, fighter use less MP. Fighter attack are pretty decent, so Tifa can stilll strike Vivi easily.

this fight is boring, I want FFVII VS FFVIII !!!

---

With the exception of Squall, Zidane is the most skilled fighter (rogue, actually, but still very skilled) out of any of the new-gen Final Fantasy heroes. He's actually very skilled, and I am comparing these in a straight fight, not a number-crunch. Cloud's Omnislash is quick, yes, but I have little doubt that Zidane could avoid it. Remember also that I'm working under the assumption that every attack is dodgeable.

With regards to Yuffie against Eiko, Eiko has plenty of summons that can do a lot of damage or are otherwise useful in a utility aspect. If we assume some kind of system like FFX (which is most logical, essentially allowing for the fact that a summon can intercept some kind of attack when it is called forth), Eiko can summon something to keep Yuffie occupied before frying her with Holy.

With regards to Vivi against Tifa, Tifa has to get close enough to Vivi to be able to harm him. That means she has to not get blasted by Vivi's spells as she approaches, which is hard to do given their wide area of effect.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Heero Yuy NWZC

Is that the modified one including mine? :confused:

---

Yes

Hey, I voted for every single FFIX character to beat every single FFVII character, I just didn't type it out, so give every FFIX character another point.

oh and to make the score thing clearer it should be as such(update with my scores too)

Cloud Vs. Zidane: 5 - 6
Vincent Vs. Amarant: 6 - 2
Cid Vs. Freya: 1 - 7
Aeris Vs. Garnet: 0 - 7
Yuffie Vs. Eiko: 6 - 3
Barret Vs. Steiner: 6 - 3
Tifa Vs. ViVi: 6 - 4
Red XIII Vs. Quina: 3 -4

Just put the score as it corresponds to the name, makes much more sense


THE JACKEL

Regarding Cloud vs. Zidane: Well, it depends on who gets to use Trance/ Limit Break first. Grand Lethal is almost guaranteed to to 9,999 damage, which is all that's needed. And of course, Cloud has his overkill, Omnislash. So it doesn't matter if Cloud can hit more times, one strike from either would kill the other. And since Zidane is a thief (in other words, pretty quick.), he'd strike first. Or it'd do like 9,997 damage, and then he'd be screwed.

Anyway, everyone loses, because Kitten Sith uses 'Game Over'. Haha. :cat: :love: :tonberry:

Cloud vs. Zidane- Cloud assuming we take AC into account
Vincent vs. Amarant- Vincent
Cid vs. Freya- Freya
Aeris vs. Garnet- Aeris
Yuffie vs. Eiko- Yuffie not taking the FFX summon system into play
Barret vs. Steiner- A gatling cannon can take out a suit of armor in no time.
Tifa vs. Vivi-Tifa. Tifas faster and 1 or 2 hits and Viviis gone.
Red XIII vs. Quina- I lol'ed. Red XIII of coarse.

Of coarse I'm a shameless FF VII fanboy so my opinion is biased. Heavily biased.

Cloud VS Zidane - Cloud can do 9999 damage with every hit of Omnislash at level 59 (my data). Do you remember the wind that protecting Cloud when Cloud about to used Omnislash, Grand Lethal animation is too long and he take time to determine the target, while Cloud Omnislash is fast with two swing and he does it, even if it hit, may be the wind will repel the attack or halving the attack. Omnislash is fast than Grand Lethal - 1 hit vs 15 hit? come on, we already know the winner. Grand Lethal is the one who make FFIX easy. With three Grand Lethal, Kuja will has his HP halved. Safer Sephiroth HP depend on Cloud Stat, I need to use 3 KotR to win him on my other data.

Tifa VS Vivi - I agree with Ballistix Man, Tifa attack could kill Vivi plus with her limit break, which use all including Final Heaven.

That's my opinion.
I wonder who will win if.....
GF and Summon Materia is not included
Cloud vs Squall - Squall, Lionheart inflict one more damage than Omnislash.
Aeris vs Rinoa - Rinoa, with a lot of magic, Aeris can be killed easily.
Tifa vs Zell - Zell, Men are active than woman, both of them are strong yet men have hidden abilities.
Vincent vs Irvine - Vincent, Vincent is fast and strong, Irvine cannot cacth up with him.
Yuffie vs Quistis - Yuffie, Quistis whips attack will be avoided by ninja easily, blue magic aren't enough.
Barret vs Seifer - Barret, long-range attack can kill Seifer easily.
Cait Sith vs Edea - Edea, with cold sound and the freeze hand, puppet wouldn't stand a chance.
Cid vs Laguna - Cid, Laguna is weak and Highwind penetrate him enough.
Red XIII vs Selphie - Red XIII, beast can kill a girl easily

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by vivi_ultima

That's my opinion.
I wonder who will win if.....
GF and Summon Materia is not included
Cloud vs Squall - Squall, Lionheart inflict one more damage than Omnislash.
Aeris vs Rinoa - Rinoa, with a lot of magic, Aeris can be killed easily.
Tifa vs Zell - Zell, Men are active than woman, both of them are strong yet men have hidden abilities.
Vincent vs Irvine - Vincent, Vincent is fast and strong, Irvine cannot cacth up with him.
Yuffie vs Quistis - Yuffie, Quistis whips attack will be avoided by ninja easily, blue magic aren't enough.
Barret vs Seifer - Barret, long-range attack can kill Seifer easily.
Cait Sith vs Edea - Edea, with cold sound and the freeze hand, puppet wouldn't stand a chance.
Cid vs Laguna - Cid, Laguna is weak and Highwind penetrate him enough.
Red XIII vs Selphie - Red XIII, beast can kill a girl easily

---

^^I actually a different line up for

FFVII vs. FFVIII

Cloud vs. Squall
Aeris vs. Rinoa
Tifa vs. Quistis
Vincent vs. Irvine
Yuffie vs. Selphie
Barret vs. Laguna
Cid vs. Seifer
Red XIII vs. Zell
(and yeah, then Cait Sith vs. Edea:p )

Cloud vs. Squall - Squall cuz his 255% hit ratio and junctioning is infinitely better than any other FF system ever

Aeris vs. Rinoa - Rinoa, sorceress with insane powers and a dog that gives invincibility...nuff said

Tifa vs. Quistis - Tifa, sorry Quistis but Tifa's a favorite <3 Plus, Tifa seemed a little tougher o.o

Vincent vs. Irvine - Vincent just cuz I wanna see Irvine get punched in the face ^^

Yuffie vs. Selphie - Yuffie, I hated Selphie and she only had a couple good things and they were all in her limit break -_-;

Barret vs. Laguna - Laguna was a veteran and had better combat training...plus he's cooler ^^

Cid vs. Seifer - Seifer (even though I like Cid better) cuz Seifer was better trained >.>;

Red XIII vs. Zell - Zell because his limit break was much better and could last longer in a fight

Cait Sith vs. Edea - XD Edea <3 ^_^

Cloud vs. Squall = Squall
Aeris vs. Rinoa = Rinoa
Tifa vs. Quistsi = Tifa
Vincent vs. Irvine = Vincent
Yuffie vs. Selphie = Yuffie
Barret vs. Laguna = Laguna
Cid vs. Seifer = Cid
Red XIII vs. Zell = Zell

(Cait Sith vs. Edea = Edea:p )

Without much thought, this is how I see it:

Cloud vs. Squall = Squall
Aeris vs. Rinoa = Aeris
Tifa vs. Quistsi = Quistis
Vincent vs. Irvine = Irvine
Yuffie vs. Selphie = Yuffie
Barret vs. Laguna = Laguna
Cid vs. Seifer = Cid
Red XIII vs. Zell = Red XIII

-LYCHON

P.S.: FFVIII > All :D

Cloud vs. Squall

Squall wins, hands-down. He's faster, he's far better trained, and his weapon can be used for projectile attacks. Plus the whole GF thing.

Aeris vs. Rinoa

Tough one because neither are particularily strong. I'm going to have to give this to Aeris because of her magical strength. Rinoa's weapon is also absolutely abominable, as opposed to Aeris' which is somewhat useful. I don't think Angelo makes a whole lot of difference in this case either, so Aeris wins.

Tifa vs. Quistis

Tifa's faster and she's skilled enough to dodge the whip patterns. She beats Quistis with little difficulty.

Vincent vs. Irvine

I'll give this one to Vincent. Vincent's a lot faster and his transformations are better. Irvine might match him weapon for weapon, but Vincent's got more tricks up his sleeve.

Yuffie vs. Selphie

Yuffie. They're probably about equal in strength but Yuffie's speed is superior, and their training looks to be about on par.

Barret vs. Laguna

Laguna, he seems a lot more skilled and as a soldier, he probably has a better grasp on such tactics as "taking cover", which I don't believe Barrett has mastered.

Cid vs. Seifer

Seifer. While I love the spear, Cid isn't particularily skilled, unlike Seifer who is very well trained, much as Squall is. The range of the gunblade's shots would exceed that of the spear, and Seifer is fast enough to avoid the spear attacks and gun Cid down.

Red XIII vs. Zell

Red XIII wins, he's faster and has better magic potential. Plus, his strange form makes it difficult for Zell to land a hit, what with his acrobatic flips and all.