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I think there wasn't much blood around for the same reason there wasn't any blood when (SPOILER)Aeris died in FF7. Something about keeping it clean incase there were younger people watching the movie, or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaTaLfURy
Lord of the Rings is a movie that adheres to its own "rules of cinema". (Not every movie features Balrogs from the pits of Angmar (hell) spurting flames, with a old and gray man fighting it, falling through time and space........etc). Anyways, my point is, is that it had unreal elements in it, and all three LoTR movies were blockbuster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishin Ookami
Therefore, each movie has its own "rules". Such is the case with Final Fantasy, Advent Children. It wouldn't be final Fantasy, if it didn't have unreal jumps and action scenes. The basic laws of nature instilled in the game had to be adhered to in the movie (i.e. being able to take 1298270938472 bullets, and still having enough HP to whoop the enemy).
And the movie rocked. Not like Braveheart, or LoTR rocked, but it rocked for a movie made by a game developing company.
I honestly don't have one bad thing to say about the movie...I loved it because it was Final Fantasy. My only real problem is that I couldn't sit down with my friends or family and watch the movie because they would all be like 'WTF? This is what you've been doing in your room for 50 hours at a time??? You're so gay!' Let's face it there aren't alot of people out there that play FF...Yeah millions probably do but think of the billions that don't. That's why hollywood and critics bashed the movie...they just don't understand what all the fuss is about. For some of us, we grew up with these characters and some of us probably even instilled some of their values in ourselves (bravery, honesty, dressing up like a girl to save someone...well maybe not that one) The point is that these CG characters on the screen actually mean something to us, to everyone else its just crap.
You're right, I can't find any Final Fantasy fans either. There's only like, 2 of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leucant
I wonder why people thought Kadaj summoning a huge dragon from the sky was perfectly acceptable but Cloud jumping up and hitting it was completely unrealistic O_O
Anywho.. Yes this is a continuation of the story, anybody watching is expected to already know why the characters are they way they are... It's a sequel, not a new franchise.
I like the LotR reference, which nobody had a problem with. Frodo was the same wuss-ass at the end of all three just like at the beginning, no character development at all, Cloud had freakin more then him, so what's the problem >_>!
If you don't like it though, that's cool too, no biggie. It is what it is now... Don't watch it if it doesn't float your boat.
But you forget, this is a movie, not a video game. They are two very different mediums with two very different rules of execution. In video games you expect items to pop out of nowhere when an enemy is defeated, that a character can leap unreal distances, that explosions will never touch your character so long as your careful and that a single item can rejeuvenate a character within seconds no matter how bad the damage is.Quote:
Lord of the Rings is a movie that adheres to its own "rules of cinema". (Not every movie features Balrogs from the pits of Angmar (hell) spurting flames, with a old and gray man fighting it, falling through time and space........etc). Anyways, my point is, is that it had unreal elements in it, and all three LoTR movies were blockbuster.
Therefore, each movie has its own "rules". Such is the case with Final Fantasy, Advent Children. It wouldn't be final Fantasy, if it didn't have unreal jumps and action scenes. The basic laws of nature instilled in the game had to be adhered to in the movie (i.e. being able to take 1298270938472 bullets, and still having enough HP to whoop the enemy).
Advent Children is a movie, and one that has no rules whatsoever other then a childs made up mentality of whatever is convenient or strikes their fancy. Didn't you notice how tifa is quick enough to flip into a position to leap from a wall when she is thrown by loz, yet is inexplicably slow enough to stand there as Loz snickers and fires off his weapon into her midsection? though, to be fair, sephiroth fell prey to the same plot contrivance. He somehow blocks and parries clouds every slash, yet just floats there and lets himself be sliced six times. How does that make any sense whatsoever in a storytelling, or gaming context? Also notice how marlene is pissed at clouds selfishness then forgives him in the space of a few seconds for no reason whatsoever? And what was up with the sub-plot with the children, there had to be about a dozen ways to get cloud out to the forest without introducing a redundant and pointless sub-plot like "Kids eat up kadaj's excrement, turn momentarily into ninja zombies."
LOTR exists within it's own context, but abides by the cinematic and storytelling rules of it's context. Characters who are injured severely cannot fight. Characters who "Die" and not "fall into darkness" are dead. It sets up it's own rules, then plays by it and lets the story play out respectfully.
No offence, but did you even SEE the LOTR films? Frodo goes from being a country bumpkin who dreams of having adventures like his uncle, to being turned into a puppet of a evil entity. He became every bit the ring junkie that bilbo was, and more so. So much so he identified with gollum when he saw what the ring had turned him into. He was so devastated and corrupted by the ring, that he could no longer remain in the shire and had to leave with gandalf and the elves to the undying lands. I'd call that a heckuvalot of character development.Quote:
I like the LotR reference, which nobody had a problem with. Frodo was the same wuss-ass at the end of all three just like at the beginning, no character development at all, Cloud had freakin more then him, so what's the problem >_>!
After the ring was taken away he was still a wuss-ass just like he always was. P.S. I love you Frodo, don't hold a grudge for me saying that o_O
^Marlene wasn't honestly mad at Cloud, she was guilt-tripping him to get over himself. Tifa lost against Loz in the end because he wasn't "super-speeding" before that, he was "playing" as he said. Sephy lost because he ignited a rage fueled by love (he was going to "take away" something precious to Cloud again), which is exactly why he lost in the game. He doesn't understand that Cloud wins because his motivation is beyond hate and grudges, and Sephy spends far too much taunting him for it. Kadaj was having his own personal reunion with the kiddies, because he's obsessed with doing whatever Seph did so mommy will love him, and he felt taking them over would help his attack on the planet... Plus, the kids keep the town folks away while they search for Jenova in Midgar.
Why do people say "movies are a different medium, so it's different." So you would have prefered they were normal people, like in the Spirits Within....The amount of complaining that would have spawned from Cloud being a normal guy would have been immense... Why make a movie that follows nothing the game established at all and follows a completely different set of world-laws, that would...not make sense. I think when Square lost 40 billion dollars trying that the first time, they probably decided characters should be able to do in the movie what they do in the game.
Yeah, all the voices (cept' Reno and Barret's) were better in the Japanese version. I squealed when I heard Vincent's though. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FaTaLfURy
Haha, I forgot about that part. That scene was pretty odd...and the fact that Cloud can still pick up his oversized sword after being stabbed where he was stabbed is pretty odd.Quote:
What I found amazing was when Sephiroth stabbed Cloud and there was no blood at all(well there was on Sephy's sword but none on Cloud ^_^)and when Cloud got shot and no blood gushed out of him. Guess we're bloodthirsty then aren't we? ^_^ Ja ne!