Maybe I got everyone started on the wrong foot but I intended this to be a discussion regarding grammar and not leet speak. It's actually pretty easy for me to tolerate someone saying "Da noobs r aggrav8ing" as opposed to "The newbies is aggravating." :rolleyes2 Even simple things like conjugating verbs seem to be going by the wayside. Typing in shorthand is fine as long as it makes sense when one reads it. I'm sorry if I got anybody confused.