What Makes Beauty?

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10-20-2006, 03:26 PM
Shiny

Beauty is just opinion.
10-20-2006, 03:30 PM
GeneralSapphire

I like that!!!!!
Beauty is an opinion!!!Yep
Who knows if it really does exist!!!!!!!Well until you have seen it
:)
10-20-2006, 04:02 PM
Xander

I think beauty = a good person with a beautiful soul :) And in terms of things that aren't people, it's whatever you interpret it to be.
10-20-2006, 04:23 PM
Jowy

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Originally Posted by Loony BoB

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. So only you can decide on what is beautiful to you.

That couldn't have been said any better.
10-20-2006, 04:58 PM
Yamaneko

Humans select for beauty in their mates, so although the characteristics of beauty are subjective, the idea of beauty is universal, be it physical qualities or otherwise.
10-20-2006, 05:10 PM
I Am Stoner

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Originally Posted by Xander

I think beauty = a good person with a beautiful soul :) And in terms of things that aren't people, it's whatever you interpret it to be.
10-20-2006, 05:16 PM
10-Breaker

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Originally Posted by Shiny

Beauty is just opinion.

Its just an opinion for me too.
10-20-2006, 08:31 PM
Chemical

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Originally Posted by Yamaneko

Humans select for beauty in their mates, so although the characteristics of beauty are subjective, the idea of beauty is universal, be it physical qualities or otherwise.

I follow you, and I think you're onto something.

I would say that subjective and objective elements must exist simultaneously. I feel that the object of contemplation (person) is the subjective beauty. (because even though we all look for attractivenessin a partner, the 'type' of attractiveness is a variable)

But more importantly I think the universal beauty lays within the process. What I mean by that is the feeling of beauty and the method of locating beauty is universal. I don't think it matters where you locate the beauty (that's the subjective aspect) but the universality of beauty is that everyone does experience it.

I think it's best put in an equation:

Subjective Beauty (Object) + Objective Beauty (Essence) = Complete Beauty.

And I don't think one can exist without the other.

Like if you only had the object without the cognitive process of conjuring emotion then you wouldn't be able to recognize the object as beautiful. Similarily, if you only had the essence you would never be able to appreciate it since it would never manifest and thus would never capable for digestion or appreciation.

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Originally Posted by polonoid

Well,the ancient Greeks tried to define beauty using the objectivity of maths.At least in their art.There are certain laws in maths that apply to art and someone can try to use them to achieve perfection.
BUT,knowing that, they also tried to not make something entirely perfect.Beauty for them was something that was nearly perfect(based on maths) but still leaves something to be desired.Nature isn't 100% perfect either.
With that being said,i personally agree with what Christmas said...

I'd just like to correct this statement. The Greeks did actually use math to try an achieve perfection however at the same time they were aware to futility of the matter. At this time Plato's allegory of the cave was the ruling theory of beauty, that this whole world was a lesser creation, a pale shadow in comparison to pure, perfect objects that existed in another realm. So their architecture, scultupres all echo these divine ratios and golden rules as a means to solving the issue of "true" beauty.

(Google: Plato's cave allegory for mo' info.)
10-20-2006, 10:32 PM
Shlup

My ass makes beauty.
10-20-2006, 10:33 PM
rubah

Is there some thing or some one that is universally agreed to be beautiful?

Contrariwise, is there something or someone who is universally agreed to not be?

Beauty is subjective; If you have a reason to think that a thing is beautiful, you will begin to believe it.

If you are a little kid, and the little boy sitting across the aisle from you gives you a coloring book page scribbled on, and you like him, it doesn't matter how good the coloring is, you'll think it was beautiful.

There is beauty in proportions, in position, in texture (oh, it's so soft!), in taste(this one is *very* subjective), in coloration, in behavior (oh wow, look at this thing, it's perfectly balanced even if you unset it!), in magnitude (oh it's so teeny-tiny^_^), and a million other aspects.

I have two bawls bottles sitting on my desk, one on top ofthe other, mouth to mouth. They are beautiful because of their blue color, because of how well they are balanced. They are not beautiful in their proportions, or in their size very much, or their texture (dumb bumps on them!). someone else might disagree on some of those points, thinking that the bumps were the best part, and it was dumb how they kept standing up and didn't show reality by lying on the desk's plane.

Beauty is more than behavior though. People are at this time simultaneously conditioned to believe that something must either have wonderful behavior (personality) or physical aspect (good looks) to be beautiful. These sets are almost entirely mutuall exclusive. However, a combination between them should be met, and weighted accordingly.

If you were to have a comely person and a homely person, and they had both been conditioned to think that they were not beautiful, and they both completed the same good works for the same reasons (self sacrifice, not in search of praise etc), which would be more beautiful to you? The one you don't much like the looks of, or the one you do?

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