Well, i'm glad someone believes me.Quote:
Originally Posted by leader of mortals
You aren't being scummy. That's just some ass-pullage by neocracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-Kid
I still want you guys to ask me some questions, just so I can get this over with and clear my name. And not the same questions with different wording, some new ones!
You want a question... okay. If LoM's your first choice why would you want his trust?
Someone explain to me how the hell I'm supposed to have acted differently? I'm playing the same way I always play. Encouraging activity and rooting out scum. I'm genuinely confused.You seem to be a bit hung up on investigating me, Del. In an earlier post you said the cop would be stupid not to. Really, it looks to me like you're trying to distract the cop from other people and onto me from the way you've brought it up a couple of times now. Also, you've said yourself in the past I am terrible as a mafia faction player because I "talk too much" and now all of a sudden I am a big threat? It just doesn't ring true to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
I'm not suspicious, but here it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-Kid
I don't see a lack of posts. But early on, what is the most important to post?
I agree with The Del part. I also feel he's practicing the out of sight out of mind, with limited posting so we don't kill him because its too obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
I think you're smart enough to learn from past mistakes, and, quite frankly, the only one among us who is. If someone wants to investigate me, go for it, but I think it will be a waste as I expect to die night 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
I have my reasons for barely posting, which I have stated. Also, I never really bother giving much analysis on day 1, because, unlike others, I find day 1 to be a throwaway day with the chance of finding a mafia to be random. That is why I always vote on day 1 for people who I don't think will be helpful to the game, ie inactive players, people who have a tendency to follow others blindly, and those who are generally unhelpful.
I assume you're referring to this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
Take that comment at face value, because that's all it means. I am glad that someone believes me.Quote:
Well, i'm glad someone believes me.
The fact that it was LoM that said it doesn't make him any less scummy to me, in fact, it makes him seem even a bit more mafian. Y'know, trying to gain my trust.
I never said I wanted to gain his trust, nor had the thought of gaining his trust pass my mind. He just said it, and I responded.
Next question.
EDIT: Oh I missed Laddy's question. But I don't really understand it....
Why are you most likely to die ahead of, for example, Levian, who got iced in Night 1 in the last game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
On the subject of everyone's favourite Norwegian, I forgot to do this!
##unvote
Because this time I can't protect myself, and there is a 'better' player in this game who is more likely to get protection, unless of course he is mafia. :monster:
Doc should always, always, protect themself on night one unless the cop has claimed.
Also, 'better'? You gimp. :lol:
Actually Jojee and I did that. Jojee did it with Dolenterean (sp?) and I did it with Goldenboko. Golenboko then through a mini fit about how that was cheating or something even though he could have went invisible at the start. And there is no "we". There was just Psy, Jojee, and I as the other two were scum, ff freak was offed and you were missing. Anywayz, carry on an hero. *goes back to lurking thread*Quote:
Originally Posted by leader of mortals
Vote Count
(0)Goldenboko:Psychotic,NeoCracker
(2)leader of mortals: qwertyxsora, Laddy
(0)Levian:Psychotic
(0)Del Murder:Aerith's Knight
(0)Aerith's Knight:Dynast-Kid,edczxcvbnm
(1)Laddy: Goldenboko
(2)Dynast-Kid: NeoCracker, Levian
(1)Psychotic: edczxcvbnm,Del Murder
(0)NeoCracker:Aerith's Knight
(1)edczxcvbnm: Del Murder
It takes 7 to lynch.
Not voting: leader of mortals, Sir Lancealot, Aerith's Knight, Dynast-Kid.
23 hours till the day is over (9:25 PM EST)
Hmmm, well, I don't know if I will even make it to the end of the Day, but i'll go ahead and cast my vote.
##Vote: leader of mortals
Are you voting just to save yourself, or do you have other reasons?
Sorry i shouldve been clearer. Psy acted diff and you were acting all buddy buddy, thereby sorta ganging up with him. But since im certainly not seriously suspisious of Psy its a gray area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
And Psy, It's just that you post more.. defensive? less focussed? I dont know how to say it.. different.
I've said it many times and im going to leave it at that.. no more of it.
LoM seems more suspisious then dynast-kid tbh, but thats only because DK is inactive.
post reasons for voting DK, give me some.
Vote Count
(0)Goldenboko:Psychotic,NeoCracker
(3)leader of mortals: qwertyxsora, Laddy, Dynast-Kid
(0)Levian:Psychotic
(0)Del Murder:Aerith's Knight
(0)Aerith's Knight:Dynast-Kid,edczxcvbnm
(1)Laddy: Goldenboko
(2)Dynast-Kid: NeoCracker, Levian
(1)Psychotic: edczxcvbnm,Del Murder
(0)NeoCracker:Aerith's Knight
(1)edczxcvbnm: Del Murder
It takes 7 to lynch.
Not voting: leader of mortals, Sir Lancealot, Aerith's Knight, Psychotic.
22.5 hours till the day is over (9:25 PM EST)
Well, like i've said earlier, he is at the top of my suspicion list, so i'd rather have him leave over me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
@AK: Well, he doesn't provide fresh, new ideas for his reasonings, and just seems to mooch off everyone else, going along with the flow. Even if it turns out he's town, it doesn't look like he'd be very productive and contributive, in my honest opinion.
And why do you keep saying i'm inactive? You only have 5 more posts than me.
While I can see your argument against Del Psy, you tend to be a better player then most, so If you are Mafia, you are a nescessity to weed out early.
So I would much rather you be investigated.
Sounds more like we need a tie on our hands to spice things up ;D
##Unvote: Psy
##Vote: Dynast-Kid
Could be, but it seems like you are hardly here, only coming in to vote. Might be me though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-Kid
ed, stop screwing around and give reasons for voting. I never have any idea if you are scum or not, because you always act like.. well.. you :p
FAO: Cop. Investigate me if you really want to, and hopefully it would get these bozos to shut up and look for the actual scum instead of me because I'm good and gee golly gosh, we can't have any good people playing in mafia games! :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCracker
tbh though, I think you'd be better off looking at who is connected with the lynch but hey I'm scum because I'm good at the game and acting kind of differently, so don't listen to me!
I guess right now I am torn between NeoCracker and leader of mortals, although I do think Del is kind of dodgy too. I definitely want to see what leader of mortals has to say before putting a vote on the guy tho'.
Also Dynast-Kid's vote for lom is very quick and very scummy. I want some explanation on that one plzkthx.
Vote Count
(3)Dynast-Kid: NeoCracker, Levian, edczxcvbnm
(3)leader of mortals: qwertyxsora, Laddy, Dynast-Kid
(1)Laddy: Goldenboko
(1)edczxcvbnm: Del Murder
(0)Goldenboko:Psychotic,NeoCracker
(0)Levian:Psychotic
(0)Del Murder:Aerith's Knight
(0)Aerith's Knight:Dynast-Kid,edczxcvbnm
(0)Psychotic:edczxcvbnm,Del Murder
(0)NeoCracker:Aerith's Knight
It takes 7 to lynch.
Not voting: leader of mortals, Sir Lancealot, Aerith's Knight, Psychotic.
22.5 hours till the day is over (9:25 PM EST)
Reading the replies confuses me about who is the scum and who is not.
Goldenboko, NeoCracker, Dynast-Kid and leader of mortals are the most scummy looking to me.
I apoligize for not wanting to take the chance of being leg around by the nose.
In future games I'll be sure to refrain from wishing to be sure about players who can potentially cause my side to lose the game.
I voted for you because well...It just seemed like a fun way to enter the game given all the spite you held against me for restarting mafia 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
Psy...I can't remember. Probably something equally as fun lame.
I voted here to strictly get the tie going on. I like ties and think they are fun XD
ED IS USELESS KILL HIM
If your master plan is impulse reasoning and the logic that smart = scum then I think you'll find every single member of Eyes on Final Fantasy can cause you to lose the game. Even Demon Dude could kick your ass. Even if he claimed to be a cop bomb vigilante, he'd still have you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCracker
Since when did I say Smart = Scum?
I said I wanted you investigated because your smart, and if you are Scum you need to be weeded out. And if you are town, at least we know we can safely listen to your wise words.
You are a very important person to know the town alignment of.
And honestly, your whole approach of saying the cop should go ahead and investigate you while still trying to encourage them to investigate someone else gives me even more reason to want this investigation to take place.
Edit: And trust me Del, If I could think of a legitimate reason to vote for ed right now, I would. :p
...uh...second paragraph answers first paragraph.Quote:
ince when did I say Smart = Scum?
I said I wanted you investigated because your smart, and if you are Scum you need to be weeded out.
Yeah, how about you actually give me a chance to prove myself by my actions rather than jumping all over me on day one for utterly lame reasoning? You did the exact same thing in the last big game as Bowser - nearly getting me lynched in the process - and god knows if I'd had my power that day I would've shot the hell out of you.Quote:
You are a very important person to know the town alignment of.
hurr hurr hurr way to go hog wild :rolleyes2 It would help me personally if the cop investigated me because then the likes of you would shut up about me, and I would be freed up to go on the offensive rather than having to be on the defensive all the time about stupid and petty points. What I think would most benefit the town, though, is if they made the logical choice of investigating someone connected to the lynch.Quote:
And honestly, your whole approach of saying the cop should go ahead and investigate you while still trying to encourage them to investigate someone else gives me even more reason to want this investigation to take place
Lol Del.. having problems with indigestion or something? xD
Well, i'm going to bed, and then off to school, so this may very well be my last post and last chance to save myself.
To be perfectly honest, my vote was quick. Low-down even. I did it not only because LoM is the one who seems most suspicious to me, but because it'd help in saving myself. No one likes to be lynched, especially on freaking Day One. Nobody. Especially when you're town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
I am honestly just at a complete loss at what to do or say right now. I've done all I can in my power to try and convince you i'm innocent, but to no avail. I've got the urge to roleclaim, but i'm sure that'd equal a night kill on me, should I even last that long.
If this is what the rest of the town feels is right and what's best, then maybe I should be lynched right now. I'm a man of the town, and nothing less. I guess it comes down to would you rather have me, contributing and helping weed out scum, or Leader of Mortals who, despite how great of a guy he is, tends to recycle and rehash things that have been said many times before?
EDIT: Wait, the day's longer than I had thought. Like, 20 hours left or something. I may be around after school. Probably only to see me get lynched. :(
If you stop acting scummy, then LoM or ed will prob do something stupid to get themselves killed.
Psy, you are a good and vocal player. Good and vocal players will always have a target on their backs. When I play this game with Miriel's family, her brother is almost always investigated night 1. He is just so loud and convincing that it makes a lot of sense that you would want to know if he was trying to deceive you.
I think you are smart enough to know this. And I think you are trying to get the cops to not investigate you without actually telling them not to. There are both town and mafia motivations for this. Obviously a townie doesn't want to be investigated because they already know their alignment. It's just a label you aren't going to be able to avoid and will just have to accept.
Why won't people vote for ed? He could easily be a scum and skate his way through this game acting the way he's been acting. I'm not saying Dynast and lom are off the hook, but I think they can much easily be tricked into saying the wrong thing and proving their downfall. Have they already done so? If so I missed it.
Well, what have I done that's been scummy? That's what I want to know, what have I done so wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I just think the loud and vocal guy will always trip himself up if he's mafia so it isn't the optimal choice. Honestly though, I am kind of selfish and I would like to be investigated just so I can have a free run. But then again, it wouldn't surprise me if you wanted me investigated so you could dodge the night kill yourself, Mr. Murder. If I was scum, I'd whack the guy being investigated for sure just so the cop's night is wasted.
Hopefully the scum and doc will all read this and consider their night actions very carefully. Ah, sweet sweet head games.
Yeah right XD Since when have I ever been sucessful at this game? You make it sound like I have some ultra master plan or something and never get lynched XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
They are much easier to be tricked you say...just what are you saying? That they are stupid? NO UNDERHANDED FLAMING!
That is very true, but you are unpredictable, which scares me.
It surprises me a guy as smart as you doesn't seem to understand the difference of Smart = Scum and Smart = Very scary as scum.
And if you are town, I'd much rather you be able to have a free run as you put it. It'll make it that much easier to find the real scum.
Its just advantageous to be certain with a guy like you.
very well Dynast kid.. lets analyse your last post.
giving up, act of desperation, while not actually giving up. not often used by townies unless they mean it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-Kid
again you say LoM is most suspisious, but no real reason why. saving yourself can be employed by both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
1. then why say anything?(retorical)Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
2. because your arguments are without backbone.
3. why say it when we all know it would?(retorical)
roleclaim, when you just said you wouldnt.. stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by DK
when did you contribute anything towards that?
fifth time that came up
I think he just meant that he was aligned with the town. I don't think a townie roleclaim would equal a night kill on the first night, which he said would be the case if he claimed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I don't see how Goldenboko or Psy are acting any different at all. They always act that way.
I'm not really that interested in talking about investigations, but I'll give my one cent:
If I was the cop and if I based who I would investigate on the events in this game alone, I'd investigate Del Murder. If I was to base it on past games, then probably Psychotic. (although by experience his alignment has always been revealed quickly without the help of investigations) In a short game with few chances to investigate I'd rather look at the game even if it's killing me that I don't know Psychotic's alignment. But that decision is up to the cop, so I'm not going to discuss that anymore.
I don't like that qwerty is being so silent. It makes me feel like a teenage girl investigating a strange sound coming from the basement.
This LoM thing, I must say it's very strange and very scummy that he's repeating what others are saying, but I have to admit that I don't know his playing style. Is this unusual behaviour for him? because I'm getting the idea from some of the comments in this thread that he's behaved this way before. Some members play strange games of Mafia even if they aren't scum, like demondude for instance. Still, he's one of my main two at the moment. I don't have much evidence for either of them so I'm just gonna stop thinking and do this:
##Unvote
##Vote: LoM
That's right!
Managed to get on before I head for school.
What? Please elaborate. I thought that i'd be dead by the time I got back, but I realized the Day would still be going on by the time I got home. And when did I ever say I was giving up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knightvery well Dynast kid.. lets analyse your last post.
giving up, act of desperation, while not actually giving up. not often used by townies unless they mean it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-Kid
Yes. I was saving myself. Sorry, I don't want to be lynched?Quote:
again you say LoM is most suspisious, but no real reason why. saving yourself can be employed by both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
Uhh, what? Your logic is more flawed than LoM's has ever been.Quote:
1. then why say anything?(retorical)Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
2. because your arguments are without backbone.
3. why say it when we all know it would?(retorical)
That wasn't my roleclaim. And please don't call me names, it's rude. Mafia is a team game, and so if the town feels I need to be lynched (no matter how much of a mistake it may be), then I have no choice but to become a sacrificial lamb for the town.Quote:
roleclaim, when you just said you wouldnt.. stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by DK
when did you contribute anything towards that?
fifth time that came up
The whole reason i'm being persecuted is because I contributed my ideas to the thread, which stood in contrast with Neo's, and why he seems to have hounded me. I defend myself, which is why everyone seems to be finding me suspicious. Please keep up with the thread.
Fifth time what came up??
Yeah...uh, try harder next time. :rolleyes2
Yeah, I'd like to hear more from the guy because he's good at mafia. Still, from what I have seen I think qwertz is town. I pretty much feel the same way about Sir Lancealot - he's always struck me as a sensible kind of bloke and isn't causing me any alarm about his scum status so yeah, I'd like to get some opinions from the fellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Levian
Levian is dodgy to me, because he agreed with the insanity of NeoCracker when it came to Dynast-Kid but not me. He could be scum backing up Neo, but afraid to make an enemy of me because he knows I'd be onto him like a flash.
I'd be happy voting for leader of mortals or NeoCracker right now. I've already made my case against Crackalacka so here's what disturbs me about leader of mortals.Vague spaghetti plating against the three people who had the most lynch attention. "Psy is acting different BUT he said he was going to." "Dynast is MODERATELY suspicious." "Neo is playing like a 'tard but it MAY be a playing style".Quote:
Originally Posted by leader of mortals
Also, did I really say this? Many times?Hahaha, no I don't play differently. Look at Disney and Pokemon mafia. :lol: Clutching at straws here.Quote:
It should be worth noting that he has said many times he plays very different as a mafian.
If he is scum, I find it notable how quickly Dynast-Kid switched his vote onto him when he thought he was going to be killedLast ditch attempt at distancing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-Kid
Alright I think del and psy seem to be trying to dodge a cop. Neocracker is just an idiot. I don't know why the hell he has to do all this. It's really pissing me off though. In case I don't make it back, I vote del for the cop dodging and I will vote psy tommorrow for the same thing. Psy also tryed to link me with dynast, which is just retarded. I hate dynast. I think he is town though.
##Vote: Del murder
You're just picking up the cop dodging thing from me! Heck, I'm not even the one who called for the investigations in the first place, and I haven't encouraged the cop to investigate anyone specifically. This is because unlike that rotten Del Murder I am not trying to use anyone else as a meatshield. Del's kinda scummy for it, but yeah, I think my meatshield theory is more accurate.
NeoCracker is an idiot, yes, but I get the feeling you're only calling him one because he has a huge boner for Dynast right now. I also think it's funny that you say you hate him (which is, y'know, irrelevant) but that you think he's town. Oh he's bad but he's good - an attempt to repair the damage caused by Dynast's distancing attempt. Nice try.
In conclusion, you are crazy and probably scum. If you do flip scum, and I have every reason to believe that you will based on the evidence, I'm going to be looking very closely at Dynast tomorrow.
##vote: leader of mortals
I was waiting to see who would actually mention me after calling me out last time ended in catching Lom.
Here is what I think we should do based on the cardflip at the end of the day.
Lom flips Scum-
I agree with Psy that Dynast is a good target.
Lom flips town-
We will need to get laddy and Lancaelot more active.
Dynast flips scum-
We go after Lom, AK is cleared.
Dynast flips town-
Lynch AK
Psy and lev are clear for now, as they were the only two brave enough to actually address me. I also want to see Del and Boko post more. I'll update the vote count because I can. :p
Vote Count
(5)leader of mortals: qwertyxsora, Laddy, Dynast-Kid, Levian, Psychotic
(2)Dynast-Kid: NeoCracker,Levianedczxcvbnm
(1)Laddy: Goldenboko
(1)edczxcvbnm: Del Murder
(0)Goldenboko:Psychotic,NeoCracker
(0)Levian:Psychotic
(0)Del Murder:Aerith's Knight
(0)Aerith's Knight:Dynast-Kid,edczxcvbnm
(0)Psychotic:edczxcvbnm,Del Murder
(0)NeoCracker:Aerith's Knight
It takes 7 to lynch.
Not voting: leader of mortals, Sir Lancealot, Aerith's Knight.
9 hours till the day is over (9:25 PM EST)
Vote Count
(2)Dynast-Kid: NeoCracker,Levian, edczxcvbnm
(5)leader of mortals: qwertyxsora, Laddy, Dynast-Kid, Psychotic, Levian
(1)Laddy: Goldenboko
(1)edczxcvbnm: Del Murder
(1)Del Murder:Aerith's Knight, leader or mortals
(0)Goldenboko:Psychotic,NeoCracker
(0)Levian:Psychotic
(0)Aerith's Knight:Dynast-Kid,edczxcvbnm
(0)Psychotic:edczxcvbnm,Del Murder
(0)NeoCracker:Aerith's Knight
It takes 7 to lynch.
Not voting: Sir Lancealot, Aerith's Knight.
10 hours till the day is over (9:25 PM EST)
I think you guys are making a mistake with lom, however we'll see. I still maintain that ed is the most logical choice. Losing lom will not make or break the game, and day 1s are a waste anyway.
I'm not trying to 'dodge the cop', I have nothing to hide. Do what you want with me.
I would be weary of these people:
Psychotic
qwerty
Levian
Del Murder
Unless one of these guys is mafia, the mafia is going to lose. No offense fellas but there is no way you could beat the four of us. That is why we should clear these people as quickly as possible. One of them will probably die tonight. I believe that will be me, or qwerty. Levian always dies first so I think they will leave him alone this time, and Psychotic is too obvious a target for protection.
Wow chill, I only gave that statement because he asked for it, when did i ever accuse him?Quote:
Dynast flips scum-
We go after Lom, AK is cleared.
Dynast flips town-
Lynch AK
Was merely a suspisious thing to say when you continue posting anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
Its not that hard to understand, but maybe this ill help.Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
1. then why say anything?(retorical)
2. because your arguments are without backbone.
3. why say it when we all know it would?(retorical)
Uhh, what? Your logic is more flawed than LoM's has ever been.
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
roleclaim, when you just said you wouldnt.. that was stupid
when did you contribute anything towards that?
fifth time that came up
I didnt call you names.. stop making me seem bad, you asked for this. And that was claiming to be a town.. which is a bundle of roles.. therefore a roleclaim.Quote:
That wasn't my roleclaim. And please don't call me names, it's rude. Mafia is a team game, and so if the town feels I need to be lynched (no matter how much of a mistake it may be), then I have no choice but to become a sacrificial lamb for the town.
You tell me to keep up with the thread? While YOU ask me this next question? :eyebrow:?Quote:
The whole reason i'm being persecuted is because I contributed my ideas to the thread, which stood in contrast with Neo's, and why he seems to have hounded me. I defend myself, which is why everyone seems to be finding me suspicious. Please keep up with the thread.
*headslap*Quote:
Originally Posted by dk
for the love of god..I was the one who made that comment, 5 pages ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by you
If you dont want it, dont ask for it.Quote:
Yeah...uh, try harder next time.
Lom dying is the most likely thing at this point so I'll just comment that. Lancealot and Laddy needs to be more active either way really. They're not helping the town much.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty
I don't find Dynast's vote in itself any suspicious at all. We're getting closer to the lynch and nobody wants to die so he votes for the contestant. Nothing magical about that. I'll have to read his posts over again to see if there's any fishy in his comments about LoM. Blah, I hate backtracking. Looks like I won't need to do this just yet though. Even if I hate agreeing with Psy without knowing his alignment I have to admit that this line, and especially the second part, is setting off a high pitched shrieking death alarm inside my head:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast
BUT WHATEVER! Let's see what happens after today. Maybe this won't be an issue at all.
To be honest I don't even know what you're talking about now. :p What do you have to do with that? and I already said I didn't care what your role is! For now anyway. Figuring out if you are scum or town on Day 1 isn't exactly easy, just so you know. If you are indeed scum then I don't mind picking off one of your lapdogs first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
I don't really see the problem anyway, you're also suspicious of Dynast Kid. Maybe, just maybe, you're giving my suspiciouns too much credit, I had a hunch and went for it. Not much unlike my last vote for LoM! I was actually planning on swapping my vote back to Dynast kid later on, but now I don't know. I was hoping to see more reactions to all the LoM votes. Either way, vote stays for now.
No one is talking anyway so lets just get this day over with already XD
##unvote: smurfMuffins
##Vote: whoever is in the lead(lom...right?)
smurf it day one as gone on long enough, I can't see us getting any new info till a kill is made.
Unvote: Laddy
Vote: LoM
Final Vote Count
(1)Dynast-Kid: NeoCracker,Levian,edczxcvbnm
(7)leader of mortals: qwertyxsora, Laddy, Dynast-Kid, Psychotic, Levian Goldenboko, edczxcvbnm
(0)Laddy:Goldenboko
(1)edczxcvbnm: Del Murder
(1)Del Murder:Aerith's Knight, leader or mortals
(0)Goldenboko:Psychotic,NeoCracker
(0)Levian:Psychotic
(0)Aerith's Knight:Dynast-Kid,edczxcvbnm
(0)Psychotic:edczxcvbnm,Del Murder
(0)NeoCracker:Aerith's Knight
It takes 7 to lynch.
Not voting: Sir Lancealot, Aerith's Knight.
Death incoming....
The town had gathered and was in a frenzy. Fingers were pointed and names were called. One by one the town began to accuse one another "Ed is acting strange!" shouted one, "Laddy is the new guy here!" exclaimed another. Then poor little leader of mortals was walking by and tripped. Ed witnessed this and laughed then shouted "Look it there! leader of mortals is trying to sneak on by!" the town began to encircle LoM. "He must be scum!" GoBo shouted as he pushed LoM into the street. LoM tried to get up but before he could stand he was run over by a semi.
leader of mortals was a Mafia Goon played by leader of mortals.
Yay for town!
Night actions go! You got 24 hours!
Also could Del or Psy change the title to Night 1?
Death sequence
LoM was actin' a fool so the rest of EoFF decided it was time to call in a man to do away with him. Mr. T came in and said he piddy da fool and kick his ass back in time to the stone age where he died.
THE END!
ed you are not escaping me tomorrow!
Dynast-Kid you are not escaping me tomorrow!
damn I died here and I got kicked off on the cid knight competition. Everything is crap now.
Ha! We did it!
"Chin up, we still have our games to run!" calls a girl from the bushes.
Aw, lom got Mafia twice in a row? LOL! Well, we got one down.
oddlers a girl?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by oddler
No. He's speaking for someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by leader of mortalsoddlers a girl?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by oddler
And, give us your confessional 'cause they're awesome!
Everyone calls Psy a god, but I'm the one who points out the scum. How fitting :P
Psy is just a Norweigan!
Shlarney Varnie Shlarn!
I thought we were supposed to be asleep.
*Sleeps*
I'm sleeping with the fishes... or the roadkill... whatever
Well, it looks like I was wrong about the Day still being on when I got back. I need to learn math! xD
But yeah, please use this night to evaluate me and my posts. I honestly have nothing to hide, you guys just read to deep into my posts, and draw conclusions from things that aren't there.
Oh yeah, we're not supposed to talk during the night!
Shhh! Night time and your all asleep. Sleeping people can't talk.
I'm sleep talking.:tongue:
Quiet you. *smack*Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Lancealot
Some of us are just loud when we perform our night actions ;D LOUD ;D It feels so good to perform night actions XD
you just woke him up... he wil keep on talking now. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bahamut2000XQuiet you. *smack*Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Lancealot
Hah
I wonder who'll be slapped dead this night.
As the town went to sleep tired from the slaughter of LoM and the long day of pointing fingers, one EoFFer just wasn't ready to go to sleep. Dynast-Kid was one tough cookie and was off to his night gig being a bouncer at the local club. On the way however Dynast heard a strange shuffling coming from some bushes. Dynast got worried it might be a bear and so he threw a rock into the bushes. But out came hopping nothing more then an innocent little bunny rabbit. "Oh no!" Dynast said realizing the blunder he had made as he got closer to the rabbit. "Are you ok?" He asked. The rabbit just stared back at him blankly. I mean it's a rabbit for pete's sake! Then the rabbits stare became a stare of death as it leaped for Dynast's neck biting into him taking his head clean off! Poor Dynast he had stumbled upon the Monty Python rabbit and forgot his holy hand grenades!
On Night 1 Dynast-Kid was decapitated by the Monty Python Rabbit.
Dynast-Kid was a Bodyguard played by Dynast-Kid. Thanks for playing Dynast-Kid!
Day 2 begins now, 48 hours until day is over.
With 10 left alive it takes 6 to lynch.
WTF XD
Yeah, WTF? I'm meant to be killed by the Killer Rabbit.
Not that but DKid was next in line and the mafia kills him...WHY XD
I'm guessing he took the bullet for someone.
Oh yeah XD Body guard...DUH XD
Now lets speculate on who he protected! I'm guessing it wasn't edczxcvbnm!
It was either You, Levian, Psy or me most likely.
Hi, everybody. Vote for Psychotic, he's scum. Hi, I'm your friendly cop. I took your advice and inspected him. Well, vote for the scum.
I'm exposing myself at the hope the doc will protect me. If not, there is probably a small enough amount of Mafians for the townies to win when I die.
:up:
##Vote: Psychotic
And that is why we do it that way.
EDIT: ##Unvote I guess the least I can do is give the guy a chance to talk his way out of it. We have plenty of time anyway.
as much as i fear psy, could you be that cop that gets everything backasswards xD
Oh yeah I forgot this wasn't typical C9, and so anything is possible. Dammit!
Well, we could always lynch Laddy to find out if he was an insane cop, and then we'd know for sure.
That's a possibility, so Laddy made a mistake claiming here.Quote:
Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm
EDIT: Are you told that a cop is insane upon death?
You should be, yes. Cop can always investigate themselves to prove sanity, also. Or we could just lynch Psy and find out that way. :monster:
Like hell you are. I'm the cop. Last night I investigated Dynast for obvious reasons; you can guess the result.
Want some proof? Sure thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Coincidence? Think again. It was very intentional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Last C9 game I was the doctor. Here are a few of my posts on day 1 of that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
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Originally Posted by Psychotic
So yeah, I've done this before, it's not a coincidence. This time I shifted from first letter of the first three sentences to first three letters of the first three words in case anybody picked up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
You're either a scum trying to get me whacked, or you might be paranoid or insane, but frankly you should have checked your sanity first, and your death will prove me innocent.
Currently, from the way Del and NeoCracker demanded I be investigated yesterday, I'm inclined to believe one of them is scum and this is all a part of that to try to get the biggest threat taken down.
##vote: Laddy
Crap... I just dun know :P
I think its very possible they are both cops. One is a paranoid Cop. The other a normal (because an insane Cop and a normal cop would be lethal).
Oh boy, two cops. I know just what to do, investigate me. I'll be able to see who is the real one. Anyway,
##Vote: Aerith's Knight
You don't honestly expect us to believe that if you were scum you wouldn't be doing the exact same thing you are doing now? It seems too convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticLike hell you are. I'm the cop. Last night I investigated Dynast for obvious reasons; you can guess the result.
Want some proof? Sure thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Coincidence? Think again. It was very intentional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Last C9 game I was the doctor. Here are a few of my posts on day 1 of that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
So yeah, I've done this before, it's not a coincidence. This time I shifted from first letter of the first three sentences to first three letters of the first three words in case anybody picked up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
You're either a scum trying to get me whacked, or you might be paranoid or insane, but frankly you should have checked your sanity first, and your death will prove me innocent.
Currently, from the way Del and NeoCracker demanded I be investigated yesterday, I'm inclined to believe one of them is scum and this is all a part of that to try to get the biggest threat taken down.
##vote: Laddy
Maybe Dynast didn't get killed protecting anyone at all. How's this for a conspiracy theory:
Psy, the mafia goon, suspects Dynast all day 1. For the hell of it he also suspects his fellow mafia lom just to get in good with the town.
Night 1 the mafia kills Dynast.
Psy, claiming cop, said he investigated Dynast, which 'makes sense' considering how much he suspected him day 1. And, since Dynast was conveniently killed night 1, his 'investigation' is proven right.
Another possible selection, but in his situation if I was mafia, I would've pretended to investigate someone else seeing as I'd know all the sides anyway.
No. But at the same time, the evidence that I breadcrumbed my role right after I got my role PM should prove that I did not just come up with this on the spot to try to save my ass, and thus should make my claim more valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del
As for your theory, nice try. But see here's the thing: Dynast was scummy as hell yesterday, and others agree. If I was scum and wanted him out the way, I bet I could have gotten him lynched. So why kill him? To prove my claim? Bitch please. Why on earth would I claim with just one innocent result on a dead townie? I'm only claiming now because I've been forced to.
And I did not want to be investigated yesterday because, as I said, it would make me a huge target for the mafia. As much as I love being shot in the night, I didn't want the town's cop to die. Because everyone was talking about that yesterday, I'm willing to bet that Dynast died protecting me, and when the mafia saw their plot to take me out had failed, they decided to screw me over today.
Here's what I believe:
Laddy is either an insane cop, a paranoid cop, or a real cop. I do not think his roleclaim was a mafia ploy to get Psychotic out of the game. It's just too early for that. And I'm not sure why Psychotic thinks it was. Since he's mister 'lets talk things out for 50 hours', his immediate vote for Laddy seems very suspicious.
Psycho: I don't think you came up with it on the fly. I think you planned it from the beginning.
I had an idea so out of it, and most likely not true, that I had to post it.
What if they where both mafia:
What if when LoM died they decided to do something very wierd, both claim cop, then the town would kill one of them, thus "proving" the other's innocence?
But I don't actually see that as the most plausible thing right now.
I already explained why I think it was a mafia ploy. Because you and NeoCracker were obsessed with trying to get me investigated yesterday, and oh, what a surprise, the guy you both consider to be the world's biggest threat got investigated and it comes up scum. :rolleyes2
Why bother holding back? My stance was clear. He must die to prove my innocence. There is no other way. I can discuss anything you like with the rest of you, but as far as I can see, it's him or me and I know which one of us isn't scum.What, the very second my role PM was sent out I was able to formulate a cop claim? Yeah. Okay.Quote:
Psycho: I don't think you came up with it on the fly. I think you planned it from the beginning.
I think we need to gauge what do we learn more from, Psychotic's death, or Laddy's death...
Or if we should wait on this, till we get 2 more investigations, then gauge who we learn more from.
It would be pretty foolish if Laddy, NeoCracker, and I were all working together on this, because it would connect us all and lead to our quick demise once you turned out to be the real cop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
It just doesn't seem like you to jump the gun like that without giving Laddy the third degree first. Especially since you didn't even bother to consider the possibility of insane cop or paranoid cop. You say that no townie is expendable, so wouldn't you want to try to get some other kind of scum vibe from Laddy before jumping on him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Yeah, it seems too diabolical, even for you. ARRRRRGH I don't know what to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Town, this is what we have. Two cop claims:
Laddy - investigated Psychotic (scum). Possible roles: Cop, Insane Cop, Paranoid Cop, Mafia
Psychotic - investigated Dynast-Kid (town - CONFIRMED). Possible roles: Cop, Naive Cop, Mafia
okay WTF. I don't even want to touch this now as I'm quite drunk. Notice how I can still spell while being drunk. IT'S NOT THAT HARD!
See ya in the morning.
Correct. Perhaps one of you and Cracker is town, and the other one used the other one's pushes to get me investigated for devious purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del
Didn't I?Quote:
Originally Posted by Del
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Correct, no townie is expendable, and from my position I saw it as him or me - I know I'm town, I don't know for certain if he is. I would rather sacrifice a paranoid/insane cop for a sane cop. I think I am sane and not naive because clearly Laddy is not sane, and I don't think we'd have two crazy cops in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
qwerty says he has a plan to figure out who is the real cop. If you guys want to go with that, cool, I'm willing to do that as long as whatever doctor out there protects qwerty to prevent tampering with that result. At the end of the day, I suppose it does prevent the lynch of a townie if Laddy is insane/paranoid, and if he isn't, then it only postpones his lynch by a day. Because we hit scum yesterday, I guess we can afford a day of waiting.
Otherwise if you all want to lynch either me or Laddy then I'll fight my corner as best I can and hope you can see my loyalties lie firmly with the town.
Dammit, I was hoping for some insight from Levian on this.
Sorry, Psychotic, I did not see you mention the possibility of insanity. You also mention that he should have checked his sanity first. Can I ask why you did not do that either, and instead investigated Dynast-Kid?
What was qwerty's plan for figuring it out? Both of you investigate him? You are willing to do that if we hold of on you or Laddy for this day's lynch?
atm I'm leaning toward lynching Laddy.
I'm thinking that this might be...
The mafia just trying to get rid of Psychotic, then having their last player beat us all (my bet is there is only 3 mafians but I could be wrong). If this is the case, my bet Del or Levian would be that last member otherwise they wouldn't be so confident with that plan.
If Laddy turns up cop then Psychotic is definitely a good candidate for scum.
imo I think it is a foolish strategy to sacrifice your only remaining mafia buddy on day 2 and expect to get yourself all the way to the end, and it's not something I would employ. Think about it, man, do you think I could possibly convince the town to lynch an innocent once we get down to a 3-4 man game? I'd be bleeding red by that time.
I meant he should have checked his sanity before claiming I was guilty. I would not have claimed if Dynast turned up scum, instead I would have pushed for his lynch and used that to gauge either my sanity or who defended him if he survived the lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
I'm guessing he has a special role that enables him to find such things out. I am willing to do that, and obviously if I die tonight you guys have to lynch Laddy the next day, or if he dies then I'm pretty certain I'll be cleared. (I know you guys don't know that, so just for argument's sake, if he dies and comes up cop, lynch me)Quote:
What was qwerty's plan for figuring it out? Both of you investigate him? You are willing to do that if we hold of on you or Laddy for this day's lynch?
It would be a weird strategy but I'm seeing it as possible, especially with Lev's failure to respond (conveniently drunk xD)Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Also now that I think about it.... with 12 people its possible that the mafia could have 4 members... unlikely but possible.
Oh, my plan is simple, you both investigate me tonight, and we set up a time where you both post your result at the same time. I'll say one thing, my role will allow me to see if someone is lying. Asking any questions about it will result in a ... from me. :p
What role would that be? I know you are speculating, but I am unfamiliar with a role that can tell the sanity of cops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
EDIT: Oh, I think I know what qwerty's planning. I'd like to hear from someone other than the four of us, though.
There could already be some kind of restriction on his role, or info in his role PM, that make him being insane or naive implausible. EX. "You step down once you find mafia."Quote:
Originally Posted by Del MurderWhat role would that be? I know you are speculating, but I am unfamiliar with a role that can tell the sanity of cops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Considering Psychotic posted, "If he comes up Cop, lynch me." he does seem pretty confident, so perhaps that intels he does have something like that in his PM. Although to play devil's advocate, he can be saying that so we lynch a Cop.
What makes me very wary is Laddy's lack of following up on his claim.
If Laddy is Mafia, then he might be afraid of messing up and having Psychotic crush his mafia :P
I say...
## Vote: Laddy
Psychotic goes down if he turns cop.
EDIT: I dun know what qwerty has in store Dx but it appears to be something good so...
## unvote
I don't think he wants speculation as to his role so I'm not going to do that.
Anyway I'm going to unvote Laddy because I think qwerty's plan is the best course of action. I'll put my vote right back on him though if it looks like most of the players do not want to go along with it.
##unvote
EDIT: Apparently GB disagrees. As I said, I am willing to put my vote back.
Nah, I was making my post while qwerty posted.
So, are we trying to say that if you both investigate qwerty he will be able to know who is lying? Is that the plan? If so we still need someone to lynch.
I think killing off an inactive wouldn't be a bad idea.
That would be Lancelot. Wasn't he under scrutiny for being inactive the last game?
Yes he was, I get scared with players who are always inactive, because if they're inactive and mafia then the town has a problem.
Changed your mind about ed, then?
I still think NeoCracker's actions yesterday were scummy and as far as today's lynch goes, he's my #1.
Oh, not at all. No one will join me on ed however.
Vote Count
(0)Psychotic:Del Murder
(0)Laddy:Psychotic,Goldenboko
(1)Aerith's Knight: qwertyxsora
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
45 Hours until day is over(6:15 PM EST).
Killing Laddy or Psy would be interesting, but qwerty's idea seems good.
@Del: Learn to spell my name right, and I might join you voting against ed.
Perhaps you should learn to spell it right. :p
I have one problem with qwerty's 'plan':
If Psychotic is the real cop, then the mafia know he is the cop (or a naive cop, which I don't think is in this game). So why would the cop want someone else to be protected? In this scenario Psychotic would be killed, since I doubt the mafia would want to let this play out. Why is Psychotic so determined to not get lynched today when under his proposal he will just get killed tonight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Assume I will either be lynched or, if not, killed by the mafia. Which situation is optimal?
Town use lynch on me, mafia use their kill on whoever they want.
Town use lynch on whoever they want, mafia use their kill on me.
Obviously the second one.
You don't think you have any hope of living beyond this day?
What on earth did I do to deserve a vote?
tbh I dont believe either roleclaim right now. Statistically one of them should be the cop, but this whole affair came out in such an awful way it makes me wonder.
Laddy's post seems rather pointless as he didnt investigate himself and we cant trust his judgement. But then again, Psy calls him on that.. and claims he investigated DK.
question Psy: why didnt you investigate yourself?
question Laddy: Didnt you have an inkling that such a post wouldnt be received well?
And again, Gobo jumps in after Psy. The vibes im getting are getting stronger.. I really hope im mistaken in this as Psy always wins.. and i want to win T__T
qwerty.. seriously.. why on earth vote for me with two roleclaimed cops?
And Del.. Ive never seen you act so rashly before. What is happening in this mafia game!?! Everyone is acting crazy.. the smartest players here are acting more stupid then.. well.. me!
edit: Del seems to be more in the game with the roleclaim.. so ill chalk that off to being busy.
I'm going to give everyone some reaction time to all this, and i want to hear from ed what he thinks(how stupid it may seem)..
Besides people, we have a double roleclaim.. which means one of them is mafia. Shouldnt we be trying to find out who it is? And qwerty, if you are going to make claims like that, roleclaim to back it up. Because ive never heard of such a role and saying that pretty much claims townie in itself..
Yes, there is hope. Maybe the mafia have doubt about my protection status, and, having lost one of their own on day one, feel like making the safe play.
I think it would benefit the town more if I died rather than qwerty. If I am killed, this issue is resolved. If he dies, we're back to where we started and it's me or Laddy again. And don't forget that he clearly has some kind of powerful role himself.
I considered it a sure thing that Dynast would be lynched the next day, and his cardflip would be a good indicator as to my sanity. Evidently I was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AK
That doesnt make much sense, as you would lose a day either way if you had to wait for a sanity lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Lets assume you are a cop, then you have absolutely no idea whether you are sane or not, because you screwed up.. badly. And i may mention on a gamble that DK would be lynched the next day. Now you'd have to investigate yourself, and lose another day of investigation.
I would think that laddy or ed would be a more logical choice in that way. And may i repeat Del in asking what good it will do if the doctor protects qwerty when you would die tonight anyway?(assuming you are the cop, the mafia will know either way.)
I want to hear from laddy.
Investigating myself gives me information on my sanity. Investigating Dynast gives me information on my sanity and on the status of the guy I suspected the most.Quote:
That doesnt make much sense, as you would lose a day either way if you had to wait for a sanity lynch.
Except I do now have an idea. As I said previously, in a game this small, I believe there is only likely to be one cop with sanity issues. Clearly Laddy is that cop, so in my mind, I must be genuine.Quote:
Lets assume you are a cop, then you have absolutely no idea whether you are sane or not, because you screwed up.. badly.
Unless of course Laddy is scum, and in which case I think I'm the only cop because no-one else has claimed.
AK, I would like an explanation on why you went so adamantly after Dynast-Kid yesterday.
only when it pays off.. and it didnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
But enough about this, im still not reassured about all this, as it seems very unPsy-like behaviour.
Could someone else plz post their thoughts.. i dont want to go into another stand off which i'll never win, because lets face it.. its psy.
Could you read my posts in full plz.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyxsora
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-KidWell, what have I done that's been scummy? That's what I want to know, what have I done so wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
Thats why.. He asked me.. I responded. As I have said multiple times now in my responses to you. I gave him an example, and he responded.. then you make it out to be a personal attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I expect an apology... or at least an unvote.
And now that ive answered you question.. how about mine?
I'm waiting until the next day and see what happens. My vote was to get you here, and it worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightCould you read my posts in full plz.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyxsora
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynast-KidWell, what have I done that's been scummy? That's what I want to know, what have I done so wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
Thats why.. He asked me.. I responded. As I have said multiple times now in my responses to you. I gave him an example, and he responded.. then you make it out to be a personal attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I expect an apology... or at least an unvote.
And now that ive answered you question.. how about mine?
##Unvote:Areith's Knight
I respond to your other question like I said I would. ...
Vote Count
(0)Psychotic:Del Murder
(0)Laddy:Psychotic,Goldenboko
(0)Aerith's Knight:qwertyxsora
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
43 Hours until day is over(6:15 PM EST).
I can't believe we are getting so caught up in these cop claims, and forgetting to look at the connections from the mafia lynched on day 1.
Psychotic was very quick (I can't stress that enough) to vote for Laddy after he was accused. But Laddy was one of the first to suspect and vote for lom on day 1. I really can't see Laddy being that devious. First, outing your own mafia buddy early on day 1, then coming up with a fake roleclaim to get Psychotic? I don't see it. And if Psychotic was a real cop I think he would have taken more time to do this analysis and come to the more logical conclusion that Laddy was an insane cop. Then, instead of voting for him, he would have proposed the sanity check that he later did under scrutiny.
qwerty was the first to vote for lom on day 1, and, although it would be a sneaky trick to sacrifice a mafia for your cause, I can't suspect qwerty at this time.
But, I will give Psy credit, as he did vote for the scum lom, although late in the day. And I will admit that I am going after him a lot harder because he is who he is.
This will have to be my last post for a while, unless I am sick from work again tomorrow. Hopefully people can look at everything that's been going on and make an informed decision. I do not trust Psy, but Sir Lancealot, Neo, and ed do not escape my suspicion.
All that aside: I still have yet to see something useful from ed.
##Vote: edczxcvbnm
Oh Del, I did bring up the idea of the insane cop in the first place after someone had already voted for psy based oh what laddy had said. Not useful? I guess...
If you are gonna vote for me then at least be honest and say "I am not gonna vote for ed because I don't like his play style" rather than a lame reason like that which there are plenty of others that have done less...by not posting or playing at all. Why not vote for Sir Lancealot instead?
But having said that everything is too convenient for psy and I fear him as a player as I have said countless times in other mafia games.
##vote: psy
See Del, it isn't hard to state your real reasons and biases when voting for someone ;D
Okay, I'm having trouble following your Lynch to prove Sanity Logic.
If you investigate yourself to prove it, you can at least get a good Idea on your sanity. (Innocent can be either regular or Naive) but on someone else you can't even be sure until they flip. So if you doubt your sanity, how does investigating Dynast help you out unless he flips?
I mean he didn't seem like he would be a target for the Mafia, (Though turns out I was wrong in that thought) and he was the likely one to get lynched today, so an investigation on him wouldn't have done anything to prove your sanity until he was lynched. Given how there was a chance he would get off, it seems more practical to do a self investigation then investigating him.
I think I know what role qwerty supposedly has, and if I'm right, he really can't roleclaim.
I'm all for testing out qwerty's method. As I see it we'll clear qwerty, the cop and even lynch a mafia tomorrow. Couldn't ask for a better day really. The only unsettling thing would be today's lynch and tonight's kill. Aren't we allowed to not lynch people in C9 games? That seems like the optimal solution to me right now.
Laddy vs. Psychotic
If Laddy is scum, then I think he's been prodded by a mafia teammate to falsely roleclaim, I don't think he alone had that idea. Sure, out of the bunch of us, I can think of two or three candidates who could be that person. If this is the case then the mafia must really have a master plan as they'd surely know that the real cop would claim. Unless their motive was yet another sacrifice, then they'd have to be sure the cop would be taken down. Which gives me yet another bad feeling about tomorrow. Eh, he definitely roleclaimed too early, so it's hard to tell who's telling the truth.
If Psychotic is scum, then he obviously pulled all this out of his ass all by himself. I feel confident that qwerty will take him down tomorrow, if he is the scum. Besides, If I lynch him now and he is the cop he'll never let me forget it, I just know it. :D Also, if Psychotic is scum then I think Aerith's Knight is also one. See second to last paragraph.
Not the most likely scenario, but possible:
If they should both be cops of various sanities, then I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there. It's a possible scenario, especially if Laddy is Paranoid or Psychotic is Naive. But if one of them is insane and the other normal, then that would give too much power to the town and would have to be equalled by a high number of mafians or mafians with power roles. High number of mafians might be the reason why we got lucky with lom.
If they're both scum then lololol at qwerty ruining everything.
If we HAVE to vote someone out today (do we, 2000X?) then I'll vote for Aerith's Knight. If he flips scum then PSICOTIKS U R GOING DOWN. During Day 1 he was attacking Psychotic while also attacking Dynast Kid. (You were answering his question, yes I know, I read.) Setting up the lynch for Day 2 perhaps? Sucks that he died tonight then. I found it very weird that at the end of the day, AK didn't vote for anyone! Afraid to bandwagon too late for lom and not wanting to get too involved with the Dynast Kid thing? Possible. For reasons mentioned earlier I don't suspect Neo much, and Lancealot is just being inactive.
and I really was drunk last night. :p I can even provide pictures, whenever they're all over facebook!
AK: Yep. I figured if I let out my secret, people wouldn't recive it well. Every claim could be Mafian. Every claim. Since people said I was a "good" Mafian, they might've seen we doing it again, somehow. So this could go four ways: I'm a cop, a cop of different sanity, a crafty Mafian, or a townie wanting out who he wants out. As far as I know, I'm the first one.
I never checked my sanity. Damn. I'll do that later. But for now, assuming I'm sane, when I exposed Psy he joyfully voted for me first and foremost. It seems he was hellbent on eliminating a threat. However, I've yet to vote and Psy did withdraw his vote. But this could very well be to try to come up with a master plan for Mafia or telling the truth. I'm not necessarily against Psy, but he has the most evidence against him at this moment by far.
How am I connected to Psy? I am the most suspisious of him, exept for Laddy of course.
The day is 48 hours long, why would i vote prematurely? I hadnt even heard from you or laddy. And I have absolutely no idea who to vote for because seriously, everyone seems mafia right now.
Why everyone seems to be playing into qwerty i dont know, as he roleclaimed without a roleclaim.. If someone can give me the flash, ill look for the weird role he described.
The situation as it is, is this:
2 roleclaim cops, neither known if sane.
1 roleclaim something, appareantly able to check.
4 people acting suspisious and mafia-like in my eyes.
1 person suspecting me because i suspect Psy
1 person voted for me because i answered a question.
How am i supposed to just pick one to vote for. Im trying to be smart here and gauge some reactions before I make a descision
I offered a plan and the town accepted it. If you don't trust me, then remember I asked for two claimed cops to investigate me. Please stop speculating about my role though.
I already know what it is. Which such a claim of ability, the only possible townie role you could be is a watcher.
I will go along with the plan now, as it seems feasable. A roleclaim cop wouldnt be able to visit you like the real one, and if it was mafia, youd be dead.
Question: What do we do if you die, or you get protected and a mafia could visit you?
I just found a snag in your plan.. possible outcomes of tonight.
1: the cop visits you, the mafia visits you.. and you die. We still dont know who the real cop is.
2. the cop visits you, the mafia visits you, you get protected and you live. three people visit you at night and we still know nothing.
3. two cops visit you.. you dont die and we still have no clue about their sanity.
Im not including the outcome that there is one cop and mafia doesnt target you, because if one of them is a mafia, that option would never happen.
AK, if I told you my entire plan, it would not work. Part of the plan is that you do not know what my role is. My role may or may not be the watcher. Please stop speculating on my role and plan now. It will all make sense on day three.
Vote Count
(1)edczxcvbnm: Del Murder
(1)Psychotic:Del Murder, edczxcvbnm
(0)Laddy:Psychotic,Goldenboko
(0)Aerith's Knight:qwertyxsora
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
30 Hours until day is over(6:15 PM EST).
I've already explained this countless times. I did not see any alternative at the time. He was either scum (because of the HEY LET'S INVESTIGATE PSY! calls on day one) or paranoid/insane, and as said previously, I value the life of a regular cop (I've explained why I now deem myself regular) over that of a paranoid cop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Except he voted for him because of not posting (despite qwerty having done so beforehand...), not because he thought he was scum.Quote:
But Laddy was one of the first to suspect and vote for lom on day 1.
He couldn't very well withdraw his vote for lom after it looked like our scummy little friend was going to be lynched, could he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Laddy
I didn't investigate him to prove my sanity, though. The sanity-lynch was a factor in my decision on Laddy, yes, and I can't deny that - but it was not the main factor. If I cared more about my sanity then I would have investigated myself. I thought he was scum, and that was my priority. The fact is, with you lot demanding I be investigated, and being who I am, I have a huge big bullseye on my chest. My days have always been numbered in this game and I decided not to waste a night on a pure sanity check when I could theoretically find a scum AND check my sanity in one go.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCracker
I told Laddy he should have checked his sanity first because after a whole bunch of people say I should be investigated - and not for acting scummy, either, but because I'm a "threat" or something - and I suddenly turn up scum? Come on. There's something not right about that. Assuming he is town and not leading you all along a road to know where, for all he knew there could be a mafia framer, which is why encouraging investigations on specifically named people for no reason on day one is kind of stupid anyway, in my opinion.
As I said previously, NeoCracker is definitely who my eyes are on right now. He's kept extremely low during this whole cop thing - uncharacteristically so, given his behaviour on day one. Does nobody have any feedback on what I had to say about him yesterday?
Moving onto the test. I can think of more than one role that qwerty could have and it'd be very fortunate if I or Laddy were able to guess the correct result. Lying would be very hard to pull off. Laddy hasn't agreed to the test yet, as far as I know. Evidently he will need to do so before the day ends or else it just won't work. Really, though, besides his consent for the test, what we really need to be focusing on now is finding a lynch candidate.
Yes, let's not discuss qwerty anymore. If not Laddy or Psy, who are we lynching today? If we have to lynch anyone.
As I said, you agreed with him about Dynast, so your argument with Psy could simply be to distance yourself from him, which is not an uncommon strategy in a game with few players. Setting up lynches for two days ahead (LoM + Dynast) means 5 dead townies if the doctor fails all three nights. That leaves 7 players where I'm guessing there's at least 2 mafians, so not much left of the game then. It's not an obvious connection, I know. I'm looking for smarter, less obvious connections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I never voted for either Dynast or LoM.. Dynast asked me a question when i made profiles for everyone and right now, i wouldnt trust Psy as far as i can throw him.Quote:
Originally Posted by levianAs I said, you agreed with him about Dynast, so your argument with Psy could simply be to distance yourself from him, which is not an uncommon strategy in a game with few players. Setting up lynches for two days ahead (LoM + Dynast) means 5 dead townies if the doctor fails all three nights. That leaves 7 players where I'm guessing there's at least 2 mafians, so not much left of the game then. It's not an obvious connection, I know. I'm looking for smarter, less obvious connections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I cant even phantom why you want to lynch me, except for the analysis I gave Dynast last day at his request.
I havent agreed with anyone in this game yet, nor have i voted seriously for someone.
Simply said, because right now i trust no one.. which makes it a hard game and even harder to vote.
I still cant understand how with so many roleclaims, so many things that dont add up, a seriously flawed plan to resolve it, and the person you all want to lynch is me?
Could you leave the personal grudges at the door plz? If i did that i wouldve voted for ed right from the start.
And where on earth is Gobo?
I never said you voted for Dynast :p You didn't vote for anyone.
and I don't have any personal grudges against you, so chillax.
Well yes I've kept Low on the cop thing. By the time I checked Ed came up with his plan to find the cops, and I didn't want to poke. Asside from that I'm still not really sure on how to gauge everyone quite yet.
Really the best I have now is AK, it's almost as if he wants to figure out Eds plan and ruin it by that Watcher stuff, but that theory only holds substance assuming either you or laddy flip Mafia.
And yes, your investigation makes sense, I was thinking it was purely for a sanity check.
(Well, theres also the fact the latest Mana game from NIS came out, and I got one of the two copies released here since no one pre-ordered t. :p)
I have school. Sorry, but I do have to that :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightI never voted for either Dynast or LoM.. Dynast asked me a question when i made profiles for everyone and right now, i wouldnt trust Psy as far as i can throw him.Quote:
Originally Posted by levianAs I said, you agreed with him about Dynast, so your argument with Psy could simply be to distance yourself from him, which is not an uncommon strategy in a game with few players. Setting up lynches for two days ahead (LoM + Dynast) means 5 dead townies if the doctor fails all three nights. That leaves 7 players where I'm guessing there's at least 2 mafians, so not much left of the game then. It's not an obvious connection, I know. I'm looking for smarter, less obvious connections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I cant even phantom why you want to lynch me, except for the analysis I gave Dynast last day at his request.
I havent agreed with anyone in this game yet, nor have i voted seriously for someone.
Simply said, because right now i trust no one.. which makes it a hard game and even harder to vote.
I still cant understand how with so many roleclaims, so many things that dont add up, a seriously flawed plan to resolve it, and the person you all want to lynch is me?
Could you leave the personal grudges at the door plz? If i did that i wouldve voted for ed right from the start.
And where on earth is Gobo?
Then when I got home I got this database error thing for a few hours, so I'll read this and post soon.
BTW, I will take the qwety test.
Alright I've read over all of this and I think that the vote I think would be best for me to cast is not against Psychotic or Laddy. Instead I'm going to go with Aerith's Knight, I think he may be scum. He suspects me for apparently no reason. Personally I think I've done the best job proving my innocence that I could, seeing as I was the first one to point out LoM, and once I did I adamantly went after him for the rest of the round.
Anyway, Aerith's Knight is also giving me scum readings, becuase he's so adament on trying to discover qwerty's role. Personally I think that would be a mistake. He also went after Dynast way too hard, he's reasons seemed made up and stupid the moment I read them, I really thought he was just trying to frame him
Now I don't want to almost forget like I did last round so I'm going to get a vote in just in case :P
## Vote: Aerith's Knight
Wow, GoBo, you're so observant! That's a good point regarding qwerty and Dynast. I won't vote for him just yet, but he moved up on my list after you've said that. Good Job!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoBo
I've never liked AK's reasons for suspecting me, either. They seem to be based on the alledged fact that I am "playing differently" despite the fact that nobody seems able to explain to me precisely what I am doing differently. Heck, even if I am playing a bit differently, playing as a night kill immune guy or a doctor needs a different style from playing as cop.
It just seems like he's not willing to commit himself to suspecting me fully, just keeping me as a background suspect ready to jump on if everyone else does, and he can say "see? I always suspected that guy!".
Okay, it seems most of us are keen on doing the cop test, haven't seen anyone negative towards it anyway, so I'm just going to place my vote on AK then, as I said I would earlier. If he flips scum we can definitely learn something from his death.
##Vote: Aerith's Knight
I cant freaking believe this. I do absolutely nothing wrong for once, and people suspect me anyway.
Im the freaking doctor. Why on earth do you think im suspisious.. because all the blame is gonna come on me when if i pick the wrong person to protect.
I dont know what is coming over you all suddenly, but if you want to lynch me, fine.. its not like you all actually listen to me.. Even though i said for the millionth time that i didnt suspect DK!
I cant believe that every game you suspect me for no reason, without even a slightest bit of proof, when loads of suspisious people are posting things that dont add up at all.
AK this is why I hate playing with you. You genuinely seem susipicious with the way you post, and the moment you get 2 votes you blow a hissy fit.
Anyway, I don't believe your roleclaim, my vote is staying.
Doctor, eh? Who did you protect last night, AK?
Well, ain't this game just full of surprises. Doctor is the most convenient roleclaim too seeing as we have two wannabe cops running around and we all know there's a doctor in the game.
myself of course. Smartest thing a doctor can do on night one. Same that a cop investigates himself on night one.
you wonder why im pissed? DK asks me a question.. had i not answered it, you wouldve thought it suspisious, i answered it, and still you find me suspisious because of it.
@Levian: I thought id just say it now, so i can rub in how -not intelligent- everyone is acting once again when its over.
First off,
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Second, I'm agreeing with Boko's logic on AK, as you can see from my posts before Bokos mentioning it.
Finally, re-reading Del he seems quite suspicious as well. If Psy does in fact turn out to be the cop, Del is my new priority. Cause he, like Psy, was trying to get out of an investigation while at some point saying to investigate him.
And if Psy is infact Cop, him doing the same very well seems like it was bait to me. So my current Idea is lynch AK today, go with the plan for tonight, and if Psy is cop, Del is the next target.
Well, perhaps after laddy. Depends if we can dertimine both of their roles.
Edit: Damn role claim.
Okay, if no other doctor speaks up, I really don't see a reason not to believe AK.
Edit2:
Oh crap, yes there is.
If he isn't the Doc, the only solid proof is doc claiming. That happens, he can't safely protect our little test dummy as he may get offed himself. A bad blow for the town. WTF do we do now?
Do we even know if there is a doctor? We've already seen a Bodyguard killed. A bodyguard and a doctor might be too much for just a 12 man game.
Hi I'm back.
I don't think AK is scum and I'm not going to vote for him today.
I also think Psychotic is full of crap.
I think this 'test' is stupid but you guys do what you want. We have no idea what will happen in the night so banking on this 'test' seems more scummy than moving on and using what people are saying to make mafia connections. Seems like its more of a distraction to me.
Is 'not contributing' considered your playing style? If so then I guess I do have a problem with it. Don't worry, I have Sir Lancealot in my crosshairs too, but I am focusing on you because when he posts they are at least more than one sentence, and they are providing some insight. Up until this one you've basically been doing nothing, which I think could be the perfect mafia ploy to get you by since it's just 'ed being ed'.Quote:
Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm
##Unvote: edczxcvbnm
##Vote: Psychotic
Okay, if AK isn't the real doc, real doc don't reveal yourself and go with the plan.
No lynching AK tonight either in case he's telling the truth.
My vote is find a new target, and I'd say that be Del Murder as he was #2 on my list.
By doing this though, I pray to god Psy is the cop. If anything Del flipping scum will at least lend more credit to Psy in My opinion, especially if our little friend can get Psy off with his words of wisdom.
Any takers on Plan B?
I do not believe that we only had a bodyguard and no doc. Bodyguard protection only works 1 time, and we lose a townie in the process. Not really that great of a role for the town. I believe AK. I never thought he was scum beforehand, and I don't think so now.
I'm pretty sure Psychotic is the mafia and he is going to win.
That's great and all, except you haven't voted for me because of what I've said or because of any connections - or if you have, you haven't actually stated any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del
We all know you're just voting for me for being Psychotic, just like you're only voting for ed for being ed. And it's the perfect excuse if and when either of us flip town, too. "Psy is a threat! ed is dumb! It's not my fault they're town!" You, sir, are looking scummier by the hour.
Crap we have way too many roleclaims too early. One of these people who've roleclaimed has lied imo.
I'll be back when I actually have a solid opinion.
EDIT: TOO MANY POSTS...
I dun know this day is confusing... I'll be back with some thoughts.
That's part true and part false. Yes, I have not made any connections between you and lom. But my vote has everything to do with what you have been saying. I know what you're trying to do, and it's working. I'm not the type to go back and quote 15 posts to prove my point. So that would show my lack of evidence. Those of you who suspect me and my motives, please give me the credit of going back through what I've said and determine if I am not using what Psychotic has said to vote for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
I'll try to post a recap:
-The C O P thing in his early posts seems a little too convenient
-He was very quick to vote for Laddy after he was outed by him, and I think the town Psychotic would have tried to bait him more before going for the vote
-He's way too accepting of this 'test' when the likely result is him being killed in the night, I think the cop Psychotic would have found another way
Well, in case I don't make it back in time do to my gaming,
##vote Del Murder
I also encourage unvoting AK, but I can't really stop you guys if thats what you want to do, but if you support the Qwerts plan, I think it's in everyones best Interest to leave AK alone for the day, and see how things play out tomorrow.
Can I ask why I am #2 on your list (and now #1) neo?
Right now, Del or Psychotic seem to be best candidates for scum. I'm willing to overlook AK for now, because no other Doc called.
My problem, is they are both registering as scum to me.
Del, went after Dynast just as badly, if not worse then AK, and didn't vote for the only confirmed scum. Psychotic did.
On the other hand, Psychotic hasn't done his normal bang-up job (extreme questioning, convincing arguments) that he normally does as town, but I think based on connections I've seen, Del is the better choice for my vote.
## Vote: Del Murder
Del, why do you think my test is stupid?
Well, I'd put you at number two, as explained in the earlier post, the whole tactic of "Go ahead and investigate me, but I'm going to try to convince you to investigate someone else", same reason I was getting suspicious of Psy and wanted him investigated over you.
Before this whole Cop thing, you and Psy hit #1 on my list with the Dynast flip of Townie.
I switched over to AK after Gobo's post, one who I suspected a little, but not to much'.
I'd listed you as #2 suspect today simply because I'm hoping the plan can work, and don't want to risk loosing the cop.
Another thing I didn't quite want to bring up, (Though now I think I won't have a choice) is that I believe them most logical choice DK would make as a body gaurd is to protect Psy. As has been said, he has a target on his back.
And if he is a smart townie, DK would want him to live. If Psy was Mafia or not targeted, nothing would happen to DK.
So by protecting Psy as a Body Gaurd, DK would either ensure his own safety or the safety of the town. For this reason, I'm willing to gamble on Psy being town and put you up on my suspect list for the same reason Psy was, trying to dodge a cop investigation.
I know this is a bit of a gamble, as this is based soley on my speculation of what DK would do, but I don't have much else to go on.
So you're voting for me for mystery reasons that you refuse to state? How on earth am I supposed to offer an explanation of what it is I am supposed to have done if you won't even tell me what it is that I have done? Or maybe that's what you want, so it'll be easier to sell this lynch to the town. The only thing you've got on me is Laddy's investigation, which, as we all know, is not guaranteed, and tomorrow that issue will be settled once and for all.
And why are you so scared about qwerty's plan that you deem it "stupid" when you don't even know his role? It because you know I'll pass the test? You know what I think? I think you're a mafia framer. That's why you set up the investigation on me on day one. Cop claims, says "Oh hi guys, Psy is guilty!". Psy gets lynched. "Oh, how very rotten of you to lie to us like that! How DARE you get a valuable townie lynched!" proclaims Del Murder, sending the newly claimed cop to the noose. It was just really bad luck on your part that I happened to be the cop, but luckily Laddy, either paranoid or insane, was your saving grace, which is why you've tried to ram this lynch of me home all day.
You condemn me for quickly voting for Laddy...but you quickly voted for me. A case of the pot calling the kettle black! Oh, and as for connections, how's this for one?Yes yes, Del Murder is a smart player, he wouldn't allow himself to be connected to a scum mate on day one! ...which is exactly what we'd all think and he's more than well aware of that fact. As a final note on this quote the logic behind the "logical choice" is that ed is ed. Hmm. Okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
I think you know your mafia team is finished, and that you just want to get me lynched to stop me crowing about beating you because you think I'm a cocky little :skull::skull::skull::skull: (I will not deny that I am, either!) and you don't like that. And now is your only chance, because tomorrow there will be no doubt that I am the cop.
##vote: Del Murder
Because he's too chicken to go for his #1, Del. In case he flips Doctor.
I don't know what's scummier, Del. As it stands right now, you're the only one who doesn't want to go through with the test. You seemed to be for it earlier today, why the sudden change of heart?
I'm going to keep my vote, I want to see more opinions on that, especially going to be looking for the opinion of the possibly actual doctor.
Greetings passengers, this is your co-pilot speaking. Since 2000X is at work right now, I guess I'll update the vote count.
Vote Count
(2)Psychotic: edczxcvbnm, Del Murder
(2)Aerith's Knight: Levian
(3)Del Murder: Goldenboko, NeoCracker, Psychotic
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
The mafia will kill one of you during the night and the result will be made useless. If I was mafia that's what I would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyxsora
If I was mafia...let's play that game.
If I was mafia I wouldn't be so adamant about getting Psychotic. You think going after the most notorious player in this game wouldn't put a target on my back? I would have agreed to this stupid test, lynched AK the doc, and killed Psycho in the night. So much easier that way.
If I was mafia I wouldn't suck at it this badly. I'm not saying I would win hands down, but I wouldn't get my ass lynched on day freakin two.
If I was mafia I would have an elaborate plan with layers upon layers of trickery. That's not what's happening here. What's happening here is 'Oh Del Murder is acting like a scum lets go lynch him because he sucks at it'.
qwerty, I am appealing to you here. You think for yourself and don't get brainwashed in the thread, and I respect that. Do you really think if Del Murder was a mafia he would be playing this type of game?
Actually, if he is what i think he is, a watcher, then i am opposed to it as well, as in the o so many reasons i have stated before. Unless he had some huge changes in that role(as i dont think a c9 game would have newly created roles), then any possible outcome of this test would be fruitless, because it would bare no results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Levian
And his reluctance to post his role, when this basically is a townie roleclaim(and having explained his role already), seems very strange.
Thank you, finally someone actually listening to me. And he is one of the least active players too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del MurderThe mafia will kill one of you during the night and the result will be made useless. If I was mafia that's what I would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyxsora
I don't buy the "if I was mafia" as a main defense. That doesn't convince me at all, seeing as I feel the best mafians always act like the best townies. I think my vote shall stay :mog:Quote:
Originally Posted by Del MurderThe mafia will kill one of you during the night and the result will be made useless. If I was mafia that's what I would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyxsora
If I was mafia...let's play that game.
If I was mafia I wouldn't be so adamant about getting Psychotic. You think going after the most notorious player in this game wouldn't put a target on my back? I would have agreed to this stupid test, lynched AK the doc, and killed Psycho in the night. So much easier that way.
If I was mafia I wouldn't suck at it this badly. I'm not saying I would win hands down, but I wouldn't get my ass lynched on day freakin two.
If I was mafia I would have an elaborate plan with layers upon layers of trickery. That's not what's happening here. What's happening here is 'Oh Del Murder is acting like a scum lets go lynch him because he sucks at it'.
qwerty, I am appealing to you here. You think for yourself and don't get brainwashed in the thread, and I respect that. Do you really think if Del Murder was a mafia he would be playing this type of game?
EDIT: @AK: This isn't a C9. And I don't understand your way of thinking. 'Claiming his town...? SCUM!' All members of this game claim their town. Lynching because they say they're town is stupid.
I never wanted to go though with it, and I always thought it was stupid. I only said it wasn't before to see what the reactions would be. If you don't believe me, feel free to lynch me to find out that it was the truth. I could use the extra time to do the CK contest anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Levian
....God damn you people I have a video game to get to.
Yes Del Murder. If you played the same way every time, people will catch on quick and figure you out in a heartbeat game after game. I would assume a smart Del would, occasionally, try to play differently.
You being smarter then this and trying out a new strategy and slipping up are equally possible in my opinion.
Did i ever say to lynch him? NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
It would be like saying, hey, im town and i can protect one person at night, but im not roleclaiming. whats the point? All he is creating right now is confusion in whether or not the test is possible.. am i supposed to just take his word for it?
This, gentlemen, is the very definition of WIFOM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Then you don't know me very well at all.
The only reason I care about dying is because I feel as though I'm a good player and I can help find the scum. I'm a vanilla town and have no special role so in that sense the town is not too worse off without me.
I'm disappointed that you guys think I would suck this bad. Disappointed almost to the point of doing something mean. But we'll see if it comes to that.
Psycho: I don't know what the hell that is supposed to be.
Psychotic, how confident are you that I am mafia? Are you willing to ask the town to lynch you tomorrow if I flip vanilla?
Calling someone susipicious is implying that he would be a good choice for lynching. No, that would be completely different. Every game I've seen you want to call someone on roleclaiming for saying, "I'm a man of the town, so I don't get______________". You have to ignore those comments, as they will be made by town (Dynast), and scum alike. But you get hung up on them, and actually use them to call suspicion.
It's a logical fallacy. If X was scum then he'd do Y. But, being scum, X knows you'll think he'd do Y, so he does Z. But X knows you think he'd do Z, so he does Y. etc. etc. It's just circular and proves nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Yes, I am. I will vote for myself first thing tomorrow if you are town, and then we shall get on with the test. It's up to the town to decide if the test or my other actions clear me from the blame of seeing a townsperson lynch. None of that will happen, though, because I believe you to be scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Works for me! You're so good at this though I bet you'd find a way to squirm out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Here's another reason why the 'test' might not work: What if qwerty and Psychotic are mafia and working together? There's just too many assumptions here and you all fail for ever wanting to go along with it to begin with.
Here's what I propose: Continue to investigate people normally. Eventually the faker will show up. Or see what I see that Psychotic is the faker and lynch him. :monster:
God, I'm tempted to to say my thoughts on the plan just to prove to you people that it can in fact work. But if I'm right, I can't really say what said plan is without ruining it.
But so long as doc protects the target as suggested, along with the alleged cops, this can work out.
Unless qwerty actually tells me what the plan is, i plan to protect myself, as everyone now knows im the doctor.. im not going ahead with a plan i think will fail, when qwerty wont explain himself properly..
he could be mafia.. so that i protect mafia while he kills me..
im not that stupid.
How can the doc protect all three? How come no one entertains the possibility that this is all a big distraction by the mafia to get the real cop or doctor?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCracker
Who said anything about protecting all three?
I just said the target.
AK, you have to think very smartly about who you protect tonight. If you get it right you can put the mafia's plans away. You have a chance here to be the hero of this game and put away the doubts I have had about your ability. It's up to you man. It's kind of funny that you're the one I believe the most at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
You really want know a little more about my role, then fine. I still want my role to be a secret, but it is one of the following, I am either a Bulletproof Town or a Miller. I am not a watcher, I don't even have an investigative role.
I play mafia differently than most people, I weave paths and trap mafia in their own words. My plan is taking advantage of Psy and Laddy not knowing which role I am. So while I may die, will the mafia take the 50/50 chance that they waste a kill on me, when they can pick off another townie? I ask that if you actually have the role that I am not, do not claim your role. Tomorrow Psy and Laddy will give their result at the same time, and I will be able to see if one of them is wrong.
So Psy and Laddy, set up a time to post your results, and whichever one of you is mafia, pray you get the correct answer. If you are wrong, say hello to the lynch. If you don't comply, say hello to the lynch. You walked right into my trap, thank you.
AK, you say I was inactive and I explained my role, I said nothing about my role. All I said was that i had a plan, and Psy and Laddy agreed to it. You are the one who said I was a watcher. I play differently then most people. On day one, I am very quiet, but I do watch what is going on in the thread. I see you are reluctant to trust me, but you will just have to trust. I know I am town.
I will ask again, please stop speculating on my role.
Won't work like that. If qwerty and Psy or Laddy are both Mafia, the one that is Mafia will say that qwerty is innocent and the one who isn't Mafia will say guilty. Qwerty will say he is town, and get us to lynch the one who said he is guilty. If normal cop, we know he is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Of course this doesn't work if qwerty=town.
Oh, and btw, the whole "Mafia could be wanting the real cop and doctor" thing has just happened. One of those two is the cop, and unless AK is mafia, they know who the doctor is.
Though as said, since this plan, thanks to AK, will likely fail, I'm more then happy to lynch Psy on the chance you flip Town.
Though really, back to game for at least 2 hours.
I'm tired of not having my dosage of MAna.
Haha, I had a feeling he was Miller. But a Miller could be a clever claim for a mafia. Anyway, if he's telling the truth and I figured it out, you better believe Psychotic did too. And they could also be working together.
Town members I am pretty sure of right now:
AK
Levian
Boko
I have a very important question for the moderator that I may not get the answer to. Does the mafia have day access to their secret forum, or night access only?
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Originally Posted by Del Murder
Oh come on now. Why don't you tell Levian he's not short, but of medium height next? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Actually I thought he might have been the Bus Driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del
Uh, if two of them are mafia then the third person who is the real cop will be killed during the night. That's an easy move. However, there is a chance of protection, which makes it a risky move on their part. So that's why I think this is a distant theory and the prevailing one is that Psychotic is the only mafia in the triangle and his other goon is off somewhere flying under the radar (ed perhaps).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir LancealotWon't work like that. If qwerty and Psy or Laddy are both Mafia, the one that is Mafia will say that qwerty is innocent and the one who isn't Mafia will say guilty. Qwerty will say he is town, and get us to lynch the one who said he is guilty. If normal cop, we know he is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Of course this doesn't work if qwerty=town.
Also please be aware that there is possibility of mafia godfather in this game. Yes it's complicated!
.... I need vote count to decide what I'm going to do here, because I'm still sitting fence for voting for Del Murder, or Psychotic. (I know I already have a vote for Del)
No qwerty, its somewhat good that you said this, because now i wont waste my protection on you. And i am deeply sorry that i cant be dumb enough to fall for something like that.
Now I'm going to have to think really hard here and figure out who to protect, but seeing as I dont know which one is the real doctor, i doubt it will be one of them. Unless I catch one of them on something.
You got to vote too, man.
Boko: Pretty sure the votecount hasn't changed since last time, but that count may be messed up because it shows AK with two votes and Levian the only one voting for him. However, I think the other votes are correct.
But that would most likely get the other lynched.Quote:
Uh, if two of them are mafia then the third person who is the real cop will be killed during the night.
I was aware of possible roles he could be, I just mention them because I don't know who the doc is going to protect.Quote:
Also please be aware that there is possibility of mafia godfather in this game. Yes it's complicated!
Do not doubt their ability to talk themselves out of something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Lancealot