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Due to trouble sleeping, I'm back. Celes hasn't posted for a while
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Aerith's Knight
Summoner: Care to share your thoughts on NeoTifa, Laddy, and Momiji?
Aerith's Knight
Or anyone else, really...
OK, first thing is, I guess in the rush of making that post I must have forgotten to actually type out the vote itself, but you will have to trust me that I wished to put my vote back on Demon Dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
a lot of other quotes that are irrelevent to what i am saying so they are cut out.
Firstly, when did you re-vote DD? I never saw that. Secondly, what did you mean by "I'll take my vote off of Gobo because it didn't have the impact I wanted it to."Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Laddy
I don't like your reason for voting BoB today, either. There are plenty of other things to discuss.
Secondly, the impact I wanted my vote on Goldenboko to do the same thing that my vote for BoB has done. The Goldenboko vote didn't cause activity, but read the next paragraph for why I did it.
Finally the vote for BoB actually is having a nice little impact. My vote has no backing at all, because BoB had said almost before I made the vote. And look at who decides to follow my reasonless vote, but Momiji does. This is the discussion that I wanted to create, seeing how different people react to behaviour that is neither a town indicator or a scum indicator, but just plain random. Noe for my vote, and I'll make sure I actually type out everything this time.
## Unvote: Loony BoB
## Vote: Momiji
You should not have followed my vote, I had no good reason to vote BoB, and you don't either.
Why those three specifically? Might they be your fellow scummates? :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
Ok, NeoTifa. She hasn't done anything wrong the way I see it, aside from playing the stupid card which is a little unfair to the real NeoTifa who has a habit of correcting my spelling/grammar on msn a lot. Could she be scum? Possibly, but I doubt it.
Laddy: I haven't really been paying attention to him. I'll have to read back but he seems safe in my eyes.
Momiji: Too quick to out GoBo/Miriel as Mafia. GoBo is not always Mafia and judging a player purely on previous games is a little unfair. Is Momiji scum? In this broadcaster's opinion, yes.
First, I'm going to address AK.
Had I voted for DD, my reasons would have been the same as everyone else, and I would have been accused of bandwagoning instead. Since I had to vote, I chose Psychotic to prompt discussion out of him, see if he was reading the thread at all. Obviously since he neglected to respond to my vote in any way, he either wasn't reading the thread or he wasn't online. Could be he was a mafian laying low, but if he were, he would have responded. Maybe.
Now, I have a funny feeling about this exchange between Laddy and Momiji.
Why would you just blindly follow him like that, Momiji? Why aren't you forming your own ideas? Are you a goon following your godfather?
Laddy, I have to say your system is rather...interesting. But I'm not entirely convinced it's as you say it is, because you haven't noted the fact that BoB has said nothing of use. At all. So, answer me this. Who's next on your prod list since BoB has started posting?
SoL, I have to think you're right about Momiji. But, what is it about Laddy that makes you think he's safe?
BoB, why don't you tell us who you think is suspicious?
If I'm not there, I'm not there. No reason voting for me to cure inactivity. It's not like I don't want to play it. If I can be here, I will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Laddy
Neotifa: My suspisions of the previous day still stand. She started the game with a very scummy move, and it takes a lot to recover from that. The fact that she didn't vote for DD stands out, but it's not like I approve of bandwagoning. She'll have my vote, barring a recovery in posting style or a mafia slipping up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
Laddy: No reading on him. No vibe one way or the other. I'll give him the security of the doubt.
Momiji: Has contributed nothing. But I really do mean nothing. Rarely posts, never more than a few lines, and is either a very lousy townie or an even lousier mafia. He's the second one who can get my vote today.
On that subject, I want to hear more from Sergeant Heartman, Psychotic and Momiji.
More not working in class, the following post is kinda rushed. xD :greenie:
Laddy, what is your reason fror voting for Momiji?
SoL: I want to hear your opinions on more people, you weren't very active yesterday, so I want to hear what you have to say. No slipping under my radar.
Loony: You've been less active then SoL. What's your opinion on Momiji? Laddy? Me? Others?
At inactives: If anyone continues to be as inactive as some have been (Psychotic :mad2:), without being replaced, I cannot help but think it's purposeful.
Dolentrean, it's not day one anymore, your original reason for not saying much is gone, I want you to start helping today.
Right now I'm most susipicous of Momiji, for reasons I've stated at the beginning of this day. Laddy is close behind, his votes have been completely unexplained and I don't like that. NeoTifa is probably third on my susipcions. As I've already said I don't like the stupid card, although you suspect Laddy and Momiji, which makes me feel slightly better about you, but it could just be you trying to mention your buddies. I remember you FOSing (Finger of Susipicioning), Demon Dude yesterday, but not voting for him :greenie:
I somehow just knew whoever played DD would get lynched day 1. XD
Oh hey hey! Something happened, let's get this party started!
I still need to read over some posts before I get a good idea, but some points made against NeoTifa seem valid. But I still gotta go read over all the good parts of the thread before I really see who I think is suspicious.
Aerith's Knight
You don't really have to vote, actually. At least I don't think so. He probably didn't give a damn because it was just one vote for him next to a zillion for DD. If you are a townie, please don't worry about voting a certain way to avoid suspicion, it only hurts you and sometimes the rest of the town, too. Vote who you think is scum whether you think it makes a difference or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NeoTifa
I believe you about the DD vote, I figured it was something like that. I just wanted to make sure my vote records were correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] LaddyOK, first thing is, I guess in the rush of making that post I must have forgotten to actually type out the vote itself, but you will have to trust me that I wished to put my vote back on Demon Dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knighta lot of other quotes that are irrelevent to what i am saying so they are cut out.
Firstly, when did you re-vote DD? I never saw that. Secondly, what did you mean by "I'll take my vote off of Gobo because it didn't have the impact I wanted it to."Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Laddy
I don't like your reason for voting BoB today, either. There are plenty of other things to discuss.
Secondly, the impact I wanted my vote on Goldenboko to do the same thing that my vote for BoB has done. The Goldenboko vote didn't cause activity, but read the next paragraph for why I did it.
Finally the vote for BoB actually is having a nice little impact. My vote has no backing at all, because BoB had said almost before I made the vote. And look at who decides to follow my reasonless vote, but Momiji does. This is the discussion that I wanted to create, seeing how different people react to behaviour that is neither a town indicator or a scum indicator, but just plain random. Noe for my vote, and I'll make sure I actually type out everything this time.
## Unvote: Loony BoB
## Vote: Momiji
You should not have followed my vote, I had no good reason to vote BoB, and you don't either.
Question for Cid: Are we allowed to share spreadsheets? I think I remember something about someone posting one then someone else going, "gah, you can't do that" and then the spreadsheet stayed anyhow. So I'm confused.
This is my reasoningQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
There is no good reason to go after inactives at this time, when there is already discussion about several people. I fully knew that when making my vote, and Momiji might have found a good place to try and start a bandwagon on someone we don't know anything about.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Laddy
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Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
Anywhoobles :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Da Rulez, as mentioned in the first post by Cid
For now, I would like to focus on Momiji. I'm getting bad vibes from him because of his posts, his "reasons" for voting, and the fact that he followed Laddy so blindly.
So, Momiji, answer my question: Why did you follow Laddy blindly like that? Also, who do you think is suspicious? Explain.
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Originally Posted by [M] NeoTifa
As far as suspicions, I am rather suspicious of you; AK; Leviathan, Summoner of; and Laddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
Ok, so far from what I have seen, several people are sharing my suspicion of Momiji. Just a bit to fast to add his vote to BoB, granted i find it hard to believe that a mafia would make that mistake in earnest.
Also, when I said that Momiji's "GoBo is always mafia" strategy was solid, I was being very sarcastic. I think he was joking, and I was replying in kind. If I thought he was not joking I would have called him out as Mafia or very dumb town.
To NeoTifa, I did see your vote towards me, and I understood your reasoning. I didn't respond to it because I didn't think you voting for me was scummy in and of itself. and also, I wasn't in any danger of getting lynched with Demon Dude so far ahead.
So far the only person I suspect in Momiji, but as I don't have much to go on, I am not going to cast a vote. I don't wanna be part of a bandwagon vote (just in case one starts) when I don't have much to go on.
Aerith's Knight
o.oQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
Care to elaborate? Not just about me, either S:
Currently, Momiji is definetly the most suspicious on my list, for reasons previously stated above. He also purposely dodged a question NeoTifa asked, so I'll repost it.
Momiji quoted the question yet never answered it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoTifa
Well, actually he answered it with a repost of his vote for BoB.
Aerith's Knight
He did, actually...whether or not it's a good answer you can decide on your own, I guess >.>
Yep, got that. However is doesn't actually answer the question.
I voted for BoB because even with Laddy's attempt to spark discussion, nothing was happening. With two votes against BoB, people actually started to talk. I got my desired result.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dolentrean
I find NeoTifa suspicious because of just the way she's been acting. That might be just because of her role-playing though. But, the going back and forth between NeoTifa and AK gives me suspicion of them both.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knighto.oQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
Care to elaborate? Not just about me, either S:
Laddy and Summoner are suspicious because they seem quick to throw suspicion on me.
What do you mean on the back and forth between us? He/she questions me and I explain, so then I question him/her and he/she explains. That's how a good town plays, they ask questions and elaborate.
As for your BoB ploy, it sounds to me like you're using Laddy's excuse to get out of being suspicious, but it doesn't work that way. It can work with one person, but not two.
They aren't the only ones suspicious of you, Momiji. And what do you mean they're "quick" to throw suspicion at you? On day 1 when I mentioned you were a bit iffy, people looked at me oddly for saying so, but didn't say much more. I was the only one that really believed you were someone to watch out for. Now that you've been a TEENSY bit more active, they see what I see. That's not "quick to be suspicious," that's the town getting the scum vibes from you.
So you had the exact same idea as I dd when voting BoB Momiji? I can't help but find that convenient, but at the same time I understand the thought process. I'll leave my vote for now, and think about this some more.
So basically your reason is either completely retaliatory. Or 'OMGUS' (oh my god you suck) suspicion, which is just you being angry at someone who's susipicious at you?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
##vote: Momiji
I dislike retailatory suspicion. It's pretty craptastic. It's basic mafia strategy, we got DD on it, and it's addition with your previous posts is enough for me to vote you.
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I might be getting blood work done, so I might (unless I can convince mea madre to postpone it a day) be leaving again within an hour :X Now would be the best time to question me.
Good luck with the bloodwork Miriel.
I completely agree with what Miriel just said. Retalitory suspicion is just stupid and gets the town nowhere. You have nothing to base your suspicion on and so, are likely Mafia. I'm going to hold off on voting, until I get back, to give Momiji a chance to defend themself.
Vote count coming soon.
edit by LoM: I was just about to...
First off, this momiji thing is becoming a bandwagon. Sure he has done suspicious things but you guys are forgetting that there are other players. Finding one possible scum is good but it's better if we can get the others to maybe slip up too. You guys seem to be wasting valuable discussion time by all hoping on Momiji.
He has done a few suspicious things but not enough to earn the entire attention of the town. As you saw in day one, DD had a massive amount of votes on him. Too me it seems we're setting up a lot of bandwagons. Sometimes that can turn out for the worse.
Secondly, My suspicion of Neotifa still remains. Sorry baby cakes :aimkiss: You get too riled up and seem to have it out against me. Sorry you did suspicious things, not my fault I pointed them out. Stop acting suspicious and i'll stop saying you are.
Also, Laddy is suspicious in my eyes. You guys keep saying Momiji is for following him but did you read Laddy's reasons why he voted? He hardly posts and when he does it's nothing to constructive.
All I'm saying is you guys need to yes focus on momiji but also on others as well.
Considering Momiji doesn't have a lot of votes against him yet (I don't think he does), I don't think it's been a bandwagon at all.
In fact it's been quite the opposite, Bandwagoning is voting without reasoning, I pointed out susipicous activity in the beginning of the day, and other people have agreed, and help investigate Momiji further.
I'm voting now just in case I get this bloodwork done today D:
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Originally Posted by [M] Del Murder
That's ridiculous. That's like saying the town is better off when everyone has the same amount of susipicion as everyone else. Everyone's susipicious some are more then others.
The town didn't "set up" DD's bandwagon, he did himself with a big crappy post against Goldenboko. What about your constant claim against NeoTifa? That's not 'trying to set up a bandwagon?' Why not? Because people aren't making her their numero uno?
Speaking of which, why are you so concerned about NeoTifa. She played stupid, and hasn't really contributed, but why do you seem so convinced?
Well sorry that Neotifa sends a red flag for me. That's my suspicion and i'm going to hold true to it. She hasn't done anything to lift it from her self through my eyes. Sure momiji is suspicious but you guys seem to again have that handled. I'm just voicing my opinion on her. I haven't voted her this day, she hasn't done enough for me to be too concerned about. I just merely stated that i'm still suspicious.
That is not what i'm saying, I'm saying while some people, like momiji, has suspicious it doesn't mean you shouldn't be looking for others.
And my opinion on Momiji would be similar. Who says we aren't looking for others. Momiji isn't becoming a bandwagon because we have reasons to be susipicious of him and I will continue to question him until my mind is change which is still possible. I'm still looking for others, but I should IGNORE Momiji just because I don't want others to also see him. All your advice does is distract us from focusing on what could be an important information. If I think someone might be scum, I'm not going to half ass investigating him. I'm going to investigate others, but I'm also going to steadily watch my number one.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Del Murder
VOTE COUNT
[2] Momiji- Laddy, Miriel
[1] Loony BoB-Laddy, Momiji
Not voting: Del Murder, TSoL, Loony BoB, Psy, Dol, ~*~Celes~*~, Yaridovich , AK, SH, Gobo, NeoTifa.
I was planning on making a post last night but I had to go to sleep. Thanks anyway for prodding me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Loony BoBHartman has only posted twice, and this post seems a little odd to me. Isn't it obvious to stay alert and be aware of inactives, of which he is one? I may be nitpicking though, because I'm not really any good at this game yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
Since we know that DD was Mafia, I'm going to eliminate anyone from my suspicious list who voted for him-
and I also want to eliminate everyone who voted with qwerty tooQuote:
[7] Demon Dude- Miriel, Gobo, ~*~Celes~*~, Ak, Dolentrean, The Summoner of Leviathan, Laddy
So this would make NeoTifa, Momiji, Del Murder, Denmark, Psychotic, Loony BoB, Yaridovich and I the suspicious ones for now at least.Quote:
[1] Miriel- Momiji,Denmark,qwerty
[1] NeoTifa- qwerty, Del Murder
Not voting: Denmark, Psychotic, Loony BoB, Yaridovich, Sergeant Hartman.
Let me start off on NeoTifa. Calling NeoTifa out with the things I've seen people use is nothing much, really and there isn't much still to go by, I wouldn't worry too much about NeoTifa right now. So according to my little scheme here, Momiji would be the most suspicious since he voted for Miriel, and Miriel voted for Demon Dude. Any thoughts?
I cant see a problem, but don't anyway as I don't know much about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
You totally overlooked the whole point. I was stating that while it's good to look at momiji, those who aren't contributing to anything shouldn't just come in and bandwagon with thinking. Like "Oh he's suspicious cause of what miriel said." I was merely saying that, yes he's suspicious, but don't forget about the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] MirielAnd my opinion on Momiji would be similar. Who says we aren't looking for others. Momiji isn't becoming a bandwagon because we have reasons to be susipicious of him and I will continue to question him until my mind is change which is still possible. I'm still looking for others, but I should IGNORE Momiji just because I don't want others to also see him. All your advice does is distract us from focusing on what could be an important information. If I think someone might be scum, I'm not going to half ass investigating him. I'm going to investigate others, but I'm also going to steadily watch my number one.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Del Murder
Lrn2logic gobo.
So your just stating the obvious? Thanks, plus one.
In response to Hartman's post... You mention Yaridovich, were has he been? Is Cid going to replace inactives this game?
He hasn't done anything to be suspicious of in my eyes, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NeoTifa
I'm not trying to slip under anyone's radar Dan-Dan. If you want my opinion on someone ask for them specifically. Don't just tell me you want my opinion on everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
Alright, SoL, what do you feel about me, NeoTifa, Momiji, and Laddy?
EDIT BY WAY OF POST: Not getting blood work done today, mom's stuck at work. Nice relief :)
I agree. blood work sucks. Mafia is fun :DQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
You just might be on to something there. Keep that in mind for the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
Del...Oh, Delly Welly...I don't know what it is about you...Just can't keep your name off my lips :aimkiss: But to be serious, I only have something against you because you're totally raping me because I decided to have a bit of fun.
Yes, there are others out there besides Momiji, and we have kept that in mind, that's why we aren't all voting just yet. We're watching out for others to act in manners that set off our scum radars.
I, for one, do see Laddy as a possibility for scum, but I'm not sure it's enough to warrant a vote from me. I do wish he would answer my question though,
Same with BoB:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NeoTifa
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Originally Posted by [M] NeoTifa
I already gave my thoughts on NeoTifa, Momiji and Laddy. As for you, you're smart. You might be scum, you might not be. I honestly can't tell either way. I can tell you have a power role though, which hopefully is one that benefits the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
I compleatly missed that NeoTifa. I tend to skim a bit.
Definatly Yaridovich, but I think I'll prod him later after I do my homework.
Thanks for answering :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Laddy
Now for BoB to be more active and answer my question.
I'd post more, but I have nothing really to add to this insipid inanity. Ask me again tomorrow.
That's bull. Hell that makes me want to vote for you. Or get you to be replaced. 1 post per game day? No way. No freaking way dude. You have to have some kind of opinion on all this.
Clarification: meaning I have no gut feelings apart from the obvious ones (Miriel [for being Gobo, who's always Mafia. which is a terrible reason to suspect.] and Momiji [for the quick bandwagon on BoB as soon as the day started and for the use of "Miriel = Gobo = Mafia" as an actual argument] and I hate to bandwagon unless I see something that really sticks out as an obvious scum, provided it wouldn't go for a speed lynch.
How many people have posted thus far? You have to have thoughts on everyone else as well if you read the thread.
So why bother putting my energy into something that won't help anyone?
I already said I have no gut feelings. Thus, I find everyone equally suspicious.
Wrong it would help. It would help let us know where you stood before someone gets lynched, so we can try to figure out if you are or aren't mafia.
Only mafia isn't helped by posting.
If I had to vote right now, it would be for Momiji. But that's all that post would be. What more do you want from me?
"Equally suspicious?" I don't buy it, I say your just holding out on us :greenie:
Thread needs more discussion and probably another day before I can make a true assessment of character. That's how I've always played, barring the really obvious choices (such as DD yesterday; I regret not being around for that).
Now if you'll excuse me, I was on my way to eat dinner and do my homework before this whole fiasco occurred.
Oh god, I'd have to agree with Miriel here. You can't just sit idly by until other people bring evidence out. You are just bandwagoning. The only way to get discussion is by discussing! By you just sitting back and letting other people figure things out, it seems like you have something to hide.
"I purposely avoid the first two days" (Only reason for anyone to do that would be to avoid being lynched mafia? Yes-Yes Yar-Yars) "I let everyone else do the work." (That's just crap) "You won't get any info out of me! Bye!"
##unvote: Momiji
##vote: Yaridovich
Sorry Yars, but you seem like one of those "really obvious choices" you where talking about. :)
I disagree with a passion. Mafia have been known to vote on more than a few occasions to bandwagon with the others when it seems like he/she is a goner.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
I wouldn't rule out anyone who bandwagoned, didn't post an adequate reason or voted for DD real late in the game.
Plus, you should always go for the vibe you get from someone.
This aside, I'm seeing more and more people covering for each other. This above post merely one of them. This is a scummy move people, and not something you win my trust by. To take Psy's philosophy: "Everyone is a mafia, until proven otherwise."
Be suspisious of everyone. Votecounts and arguments are easily fixed.
Oh and Neotifa, why not give your own opinion instead of asking for others'? I agree though, there are too many inactives.
Cid, is there anyone who needs to be replaced or has a valid reason for being absent?
Yar-yar, you really dug your own grave now. You just admitted to lurking. Not even because you have a power role or something like that, no, because you don't have enough info?
Read the last 15 pages, there is more than enough.
You just made it to the top of my list. And my list is more permanent than Richard Nixon's "To Kill" list.
I hope I don't sound like I'm bandagoning, but I think Yar-Yars is either a scum trying to lay low, or someone who just cba with playing, in which case he should be replaced.
I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Goldenboko
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Originally Posted by me
If you read those corectly, you can see that I'm suspicious of Momiji and Laddy, and why. Also, Yar-Yars, after what he's had to say recently. This speaks to me the most:Quote:
Originally Posted by me
After all that's happened, he has to find SOMEONE suspicious. That post says "I'm laying low so that no one will point fingers at me if I say I think someone who turns out to be mafia is suspicious." Or, he's panicking because he's a scummie who doesn't want to out one of his buddies, nor does he want to get a townie lynched because it will make him look suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Yaridovich
Besides that, these are the least active players:
[M] The Summoner of Leviathan
[M] Momiji
[M] Denmark
[M] Psychotic
[M] Loony BoB
[M] ~*~Celes~*~
[M] Yaridovich
[M] Sergeant Hartman
Of which, SoL and Yar-Yars have posted a bit more today. SoL actually has some stuff, but not Yar-Yars. Momiji has also posted a bit, but nothing of importance, and nothing that saves him from being suspicious. Denmark was posting a bit on Day 1 but I have yet to see anything today, and same with Celes. Therefore, out of the inactives, I'd say these are the ones to watch out for, out of whom I haven't mentioned before:
-Denmark
-Celes
I'm going to keep an eye on those two, as well as Momiji and Laddy.
Laddy, can you tell me a bit more about this system of yours? Do you just randomly pick a non-active player and prod them until they speak, or do you have some method of choosing?
And if you need clarification on why I don't fully trust Laddy, it's because of his prodding method. If he can come up with a decent explanation for why he chooses who he does, he might be a bit more townie to me, but I can't say for certain.
My process is simple. I take all of the people I think should post more, and choose one random one to vote for. Day 1 I got Goldenboko so I voted Goldenboko.
Day 2 I got BoB.
Earlier you asked who was next, so I put the following names into the program
Celes
Denmark
Dolentrean
Yaridovich
TSoL
and Yaridovich came out. And as you can see, this seems like a really bad plan, but in a weird way it helps generate discussion.
edit by post
Sergent Hartman is also on that list, but the name got cut off when I copied it. (My notes on the game are a mess)
Yeah I don't stand by that strongly, it was just something that could maybe bring to light some people that may have been missed, because I'm clueless right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] GoldenbokoI disagree with a passion. Mafia have been known to vote on more than a few occasions to bandwagon with the others when it seems like he/she is a goner.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
I wouldn't rule out anyone who bandwagoned, didn't post an adequate reason or voted for DD real late in the game.
Plus, you should always go for the vibe you get from someone.
This aside, I'm seeing more and more people covering for each other. This above post merely one of them. This is a scummy move people, and not something you win my trust by. To take Psy's philosophy: "Everyone is a mafia, until proven otherwise."
Be suspisious of everyone. Votecounts and arguments are easily fixed.
Oh and Neotifa, why not give your own opinion instead of asking for others'? I agree though, there are too many inactives.
Cid, is there anyone who needs to be replaced or has a valid reason for being absent?
Oh, "Miriel". You try so hard. And yet, in every game you're Mafia, you always antagonize the innocent to keep accusing eyes off of you and "trusting" eyes pointed in your direction. Antagonism is the scummiest tactic of all.
How is it you study this game so thoroughly (or so it seems) yet always manage to give yourself away?
So yeah. There's my gut feeling. There's my opinion about someone.
There's my vote.
##Vote: Miriel
I'm not sure I like how NeoTifa attacks Laddy for "prodding" inactives and then casually posts a list of most inactive players.
I understand the point of view Yari is speaking from, referring to inactivity, but I'll let paraoia get the better of me, as I'd rather not trust anyone too much yet.
;P
Also, I don't quite like Laddy's method of randomly drawing names. I guess it could make things simpler this early in the game, but it could become a liability as we progress. I assume that you plan on discontinuing this method, maybe even after today.
Anyway, on to suspiciousness.
Miriel seems intelligent. That could be a good thing or a bad thing. It's not that I'm suspicious of you, it just seems that you stick out a lot.
I'm not too sure about Yaridovich. On one hand, you've basically come into the game defending yourself, whic can make you seem suspicious, but is very necessary in your situation. On the other hand, you completely admitted that you've been lurking. That screams guilt to me, sorry.
Day one, I was actually considering swapping my vote to NeoTifa, but decided against it when I saw a certain few of DD's posts. You stick out too, NeoTifa, but you seem to be working more for yourself, rather than working towards the root of things, as I feel Laddy is doing.
I'm not suspicious enough of anyone yet to vote though, so I'll leave it at that.
Eet tiem.
Aerith's Knight
I wholeheartedly agree that lurking like that is suspishus, Yar. You're being a useless sack of crap if you're town.
Oh. So it's suspicious to discuss suspicions.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
I find NeoTifa suspicious because of just the way she's been acting. That might be just because of her role-playing though. But, the going back and forth between NeoTifa and AK gives me suspicion of them both.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knighto.oQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
Care to elaborate? Not just about me, either S:
...that's really been bugging me actually. How could he not realize how scummy that seemed? How could he post something like that without the consent of the mafiosi? How could they approve of something like that? On day one no less!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
I have to disagree with this. In past games, mafia have voted with a townie the killed the next night, and they have voted against their scummates (check Ace Mafia IX for a fantastic example of every member of the mafia turning against their godfather; the game ended with a mafia victory).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
All it really has is a record of the votes and roles in a more organized manner :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] CidI cant see a problem, but don't anyway as I don't know much about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
All in all, I think my vote still goes to Miss Tifa for reasons stated in a previous post.
Preview edit:
Oh, 'sup Celes, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, HMMMM?
Aerith's Knight
Oh, whoops.
##Vote: NeoTifa
I can't help that I'm busy and my partner is lazy :D
Anyway, my thoughts:
Momiji casting that second vote on me seems pointless, so it seems suspicious to me. Though I'm not entirely convinced he's scum.
Yaridovich is in the same boat as me it seems. We both have very little feelings on who might be scum, but keeping to ourselves is obviously incriminating us. That being the case, I still get a scummy vibe from him, but it is completely unfounded at this time.
NeoTifa is active quite often. I'd like to think active members are helpful townies, but scum could use it to pass off as town. Nothing really of help here.
Denmark has posted, saying he will read over the posts and then give us his thoughts. This hasn't happened (as far as I can tell, I might have missed it). That looks scummy to me. He says he'll help, and then we forget about him.
If I were to vote at this time, it'd be for Denmark. I'll quote him straight after this so you can see what I mean.
This is why. Seems so eager to get involved, then doesn't return?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Denmark
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Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
The attack on Miriel seems unfounded to me, which gives me a good reason to suspect Yaridovich now. However, I'm not confident to vote for him yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Yaridovich
That being said, if I can be prodded, so can
##vote: Denmark
I want to know Denmark's views on people, he's been re-reading for a while now
Aerith's Knight
Posted at 10:18 PM yesterday according to the time on this account. The time is now 10:05 PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cid
Get your votes in quick :p
Gah, I thought we had more time.
I'm gonna have to go with
##Vote: NeoTifa
She's highest on my suspicion list, even small as it is.
Hell if I'd know, I suppose he could've not even talked it over with his buddies. I remember tons of times I'd get angry at my allies when they'd post something stupid because it didn't get okay'd by the mafia xD DD was pretty stupid xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight...that's really been bugging me actually. How could he not realize how scummy that seemed? How could he post something like that without the consent of the mafiosi? How could they approve of something like that? On day one no less!?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
I'm not going to comment on Yar-Yar obviously retailatory vote, haha, I love how he didn't even bother to give a reason other then "You try so hard but always give yourself away." Because that's persuasive. xD
Wait, is the day 24 hours? If so is it really about to end :eek:
Any idea what the vote count is?
No :(
Well, time for me to head off to bed, so I'm going to give my vote and final analysis of the day.
This is what my gut, and several analysed posts tell me:
Loony BoB -electric toyInexperienced townie
~Celes~ - Absent townie
Laddy - Godfather/power role or "laying low" goon.
Miriel -GoboOutspoken, but often wrong, townie.
Aerith's knight - Regular townie
Yardrovitch - Awful goon or Horrible townie.
Neotifa - Scum(role is unclear)
Momiji - Goon or uninterested townie
Del Murder - Townie
All my suspects I have discussed in my previous posts. The rest is a vibe I get from reading their posts.
Gobo has always been an outspoken mafia player. I'm not suprised if he is very active.
Laddy just gives me the vibe of a goon that intends to flow beneath the radar. not inactive, not active.
Neotifa just makes my spidey sense tingle, and not in the good way.
Momiji gives me more of a feeling of: "I don't care, I'm here to screw with this game."
Before people go questioning me, I'll post this again: "All my suspects have been discussed in previous posts. If you respond with a WHY YOU SUSPECT ME?, I will bitchslap you and point you to my previous posts. That is all."
I had to choose between Laddy, Yar yar and Neotifa.
I'm going with Neotifa. Only if the mafia had an IQ of 40... combined, would they let Yar-yar post that. Whatever he is, he's still awful.
Laddy hasn't posted enough for me to make a full conclusion, only a gut feeling, so:
##vote: Neotifa
day is over, thats it, no more votes will be counted, so stop posting please...
Final votecount and lynch coming soon...
LoM
I think NeoTifa is the one about to get lynched. I don't know whether to swich to Yars or not, he still seems suspicious to me and NeoTifa doesn't...
Wrong? D: I don't know I always feel stupid thinking he's "Too obvious to be mafia." It just seems like if I thought like that mafia could just decide to be ridiculous and get away with whatever they want.
Aerith's Knight
I'm sure I miscounted some votes, but it looks like NeoTifa's in the lead with two.
Aerith's Knight
whoa whoa, maybe I should have refreshed the page before I started typing >.>
I believe it's
3 for NeoTifa (Celes, AK, Goldenboko)
1 for Yaridovich (Miriel)
1 for Miriel (Yaridovich)
1 for Momiji (Laddy)
1 for BoB (Momiji)
1 for denmark (Loony BoB)
I saw Celes address my method of picking who to prod. all the inactives are pretty much the same shell, so I just pick one and random choice's feel like a good option for these early days. Later on of course it would be stupid to randomly pick a target, but in days 1 and 2 I think it's OK to start off some more discussion.
Sorry Cid. I should use preview more often.
(3)NeoTifa: Aerith's Knight, Celes, Goldonboko
(1)Loony BoB:Laddy, momiji,
(1)Momiji: Laddy,Miriel,
(1)Miriel: Yaridovich
(1) Denmark: Loony BoB
Not Voting...
NeoTifa, Dolentrean, Del Murder, The Summoner of Leviathan, Seargeant Hartman, Denmark, Psychotic, Miriel...
Thats a lot...
Neotifa dies, flavor coming in just a sec... It will be horrible though...
LoM
NeoTifa was just walking along, talking to someone, and then... all of a sudden... FOOM!!!! Her electrons collapsed!!!! Well thats one down I guess...(its a joke my chemistry teacher made:eep:)
NeoTifa was a Commuter, played by ~*~Celes~*~
Night actions please
LoM
Yardidovich was pulling another late night at the office, checking out all those damn
Ohioians. It was enough to make someone insane. He was starting to pull out another file,
when a voice behind him said "By the power of the Grayskull, you will die". Yardidovich
died, wishing he could revel his killer. Yardidovich was an Insane Cop, played by Denmark.
Elsewhere, Dolentrean was getting worried. It was almost day, but there was still time for someone to try to kill his cilent. Suddnel,
there was knocking on the door. Dol got out his gun and aimed it at the door, which Laddy burst though. They each looked at the other for a second
than fired and killed the other. Dol was the Elite Bodyguard played by f f freak, and Laddy was the SK played by qwerty.
24 hours until night, and with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
If a mod reads this, change the name to Finally, qwerty isn't Vanilla Town.
And here I was, about to write a long speech declaring why I was suspicious of Dolentrean. I was way off. :p
Yar's death confirms what I felt about him, uninterested town. I don't know why the Mafia would want to take him out, though. Unless they knew something we didn't. What's the mafia equivalent to investigator? They must have that.
Laddy being the Serial Killer destroys my inclination that he and Summoner were in cahoots.
Also, how can THAT many people not vote to lynch and get away with it? :mad2: I'm most suspicious of Denmark now. Also, Del Murder seems helpful. A bit too helpful. :shifty: I was sure the mafia would take her out.
Denmark has my suspicions too. There's still others who've been inactive for a while, but I can't recall them atm
Psy is also on my list. He hasn't posted very often, and a lot of what he's said has just been stating what has already taken place. Of course, I may have missed some posts, apologies if I have. Also, the "not voting in case of bandwagon" confuses me, surely those voting afterwards would look really suspicious if the person turned up town? I wouldn't think Psy would be suspicious for being the first vote.
That's all I've got for now, I'll probably head off to bed soon. Night guys
I'd love to post all my thoughts, but I don't have that kind of time, as I'm headed to school, and I really need to review the game. I've played poorly, NeoTifa, and Yar-Yars were my number 3 and number 1. They're both dead and town. My gut told me Laddy at least I was right about that. I'll review the game more and sneak on during Robotics ;D
Well, at least 2 of my three scum guesses were right. I can still trust my gut on that ratio. At least we know that Dolentrean is town. The bodygaurd did her job, very nicely done.
To be honest, I have no real suspects left, except for Momiji, which wasn't a real strong one. This day will take some analysis.
Oh wait, nvm, I read that wrong.
Replace that with: "At least we got one of them."
I will not be able to be present until after this day is over. Following the rules WHICH WE ALL SHOULD, I'm going to vote, because it's mandatory, not an option. :mad2:
##Vote: Denmark
Make of it what you will.
Also, if our host finds it necessary to replace me, then so be it.
At the end of yesterday my "Susipcion List" looked like this:
Now here's what happened to the people on the list
- Yaridovich
- Momiji
- Laddy
- NeoTifa
- Inactives
So, upon starting reviewing my susipicions looked like this.
Yardovich-Insane Cop- Momiji
Laddy-Serial KillerNeoTifa- Commuter- Inactives
So I've looked back, and here's my thoughts on the game!
- Momiji
- Inactives
I started with Momiji, I saw no reason to just ignore my thoughts on him because I was wrong with Yaridovich and NeoTifa.
I started by disecting his first post of this day.
And decided that was the most important sentence in the entire thing. Why is Denmark susipicious? Why does Del Murder seem helpful?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
Then I went back to a post that still picks out to me.
There isn't anything about that post I don't find bad or scummy. It gives us nothing on his opinions on things, and he just openly retaliates against Laddy and SoL.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] MomijiI voted for BoB because even with Laddy's attempt to spark discussion, nothing was happening. With two votes against BoB, people actually started to talk. I got my desired result.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dolentrean
I find NeoTifa suspicious because of just the way she's been acting. That might be just because of her role-playing though. -Old Information But, the going back and forth between NeoTifa and AK gives me suspicion of them both. -No real reasoning behind this.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knighto.oQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
Care to elaborate? Not just about me, either S:
Laddy and Summoner are suspicious because they seem quick to throw suspicion on me. -Retaliatory
Final Day Vote History:
Day 1- Miriel
Day 2- Loony BoB
His voting history is also scummy. He's made little votes, imo trying to just glide through the day. He made a vote on me day one with no reason, then voted Loony BoB early to prod him, but never unvoted and voted somewhere where his vote would make a difference!
Inactive List:
1. Psychotic- 4 posts in 2 days? He's not going to help the town
2. Denmark- See Psychotic.
3. ~*~Celes~*~- See Denmark.
4. Seargent Hartman See ~*~Celes~*~.
If they aren't replaced eventually, I'm going to assume one of them is mafia being purposely inactive, but 4 seems a bit little. Doesn't seem likely that they're REALLY mafia, just inactive town that needs to be replaced so we can get an accurate read on them.
"Gliders"
I think these are the people I think are most likely to be mafia trying to just "glide through days". The Summoner of Leviathan, and Loony BoB. I think these two should speak up, give opinions, and contribute.
Ok I finally have a day off (yesterday I was more busy then I thought and wasn't able to get on most of the day) but here I am now.
So far the most suspicious person in my eye is Momiji, and not just because he voted for me, he just kind of gives me a bad vibe, but I can't really condemn him till I actually read over the thread more (god Disgaea calls to me to play so badly).
Miriel I think is more then likely townie at this point and time because well, she hasn't been doing anything to really hurt town and makes good points.
Everyone else hasn't really stuck out to me enough or I haven't read enough of their posts to really get a good reading beyond the typical mafia banter we do.
Hogod, that's practically all of my suspicion list. I'm gonna have to go back and read some. I guess I'll post so you know that I'm not trying to "glide through days."
P:
Rereading some stuff, Summoner caught my eye as did Sergeant Hartmen. Summoner is another person who just gives off some vibes, and Sergeant a couple pages back did a kind of whole list of "I think these people could be suspicious" which would be a decent move for Mafia, throw out a lot of people who you could find suspicion in, so that later reference it for a reason to vote someone off.
How is that suspicious? Isn't that the whole point of a suspicion list? ( Which I've also clearly stated in other posts that I loosely follow it and only used it for the spur of the moment. )Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Denmark
Miriel basically confirmed what I said about Momiji a while back--his/her's awkward voting patterns.
I don't have much to say now, because I'm more focused on Momiji, who sadly won't be here for the remainder of the day.
At least let me ask what "vibes" you're getting from TSoL, Yaridovich?
It's nice that some of you are turning up now, but I'd also like to see some life from Psychotic as well, but I'm not too focused on Psy yet.
Throwing out a bunch of names and hoping one of 'em sticks is called spaghetti plating.
As for Summoner and Momiji, they both give me some impression of contributing, but only enough to fly under the radar, yet not seem inactive.
Yars seems more town to me at the moment then scum.
Yars is dead guys.
Yeah, seriously.
Pay attention plx.
I think I'm going to have to agree and say Momiji is highest on my supicion list. The only one near that is TSoL, but I may just be paranoid about that. It's just that, looking back on the DD lynch vote, TSoL decided casually that he was voting DD pretty close to the end there, maybe in an attempt to disassociate himself from DD, who we know now to be scum.
Of course, it could be completely reasonable and I'm just being paranoid.
P:
And that pretty much sums up my thoughts right now. Nothing else worth mentioning anyway.
:S
It's not enough for me to vote Momiji yet, so I'll just stand for now.
Talk about a bunch of observant types, huh? xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
I think I'll make an update, although there isn't much to go on yet. Too much inactivity.
Aerith's Knight
More to come, but first I want to get this paranoid theory off my chest that's been nagging me for awhile now. The more I think about it the likelier it seems, and my partner doesn't totally disagree so I'm not completely crazy...
This was totally and completely random and made zero sense. So we all lynched him:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Demon Dude
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Originally Posted by [M] Goldenboko
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Originally Posted by [M] Dolentrean
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Originally Posted by [M] The Summoner of Leviathan
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Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
So he dies. And he was a mafia Goon. And get this, he doesn't attempt to defend himself...at all. He doesn't urge us to vote Goldenboko...he doesn't even try to look convinced after the first vote. He just lays down and dies. Nobody defends him, nobody says, "well, let's not be too hasty here..." we all just pile on the votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ~*~Celes~*~
Insane Paranoid Theory:
He was a sacrifice. Surely it's worth it to sacrifice one plain ol' goon early on if it means ensuring your mafia friends live throughout the rest of the game.
Notice how Dolentrean, Celes, and TSoL say pretty much the same thing when voting DD. If my little theory is at all accurrate, I would say either TSoL or Celes (low lying mafioso) and Miriel or Goldenboko (DD argued strongly against them before that one weird football metaphor) could be scum.
...but anyway, onto the sane stuff:
Number one on my list is ~*~Celes~*~
Lengthier post than usual, but pretty much saying the same thing everyone else was saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ~*~Celes~*~
Everyone is tied at 1 vote per person voted for, and she quickly comes in and votes within the last five minutes, pretty much ensuring that NeoTifa dies.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ~*~Celes~*~
Not convinced, pretty much every post of yours is in this one post here :spin:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ~*~Celes~*~
...more sane stuff to come probably...I do have other suspicions xD
My list is pretty weak at the moment:
Town: AK, Miriel, Del Murder and Loony BoB
Inactive: Denmark(yes, I'm still counting you), Psychotic &others not in the rest of the list.
Scum: Momiji, ~Celes~, Serg. Hartman
Momiji I have explained yesterday, he gives off the feeling of an uninterest townie or absent goon(votes, but doesn't do much else)
~Celes~ is a new one. She hasn't posted long but I get the same feeling I had with laddy. Someone trying to stay under the radar. Not giving any reason to vote for Neotifa, and inactivity started that line of thinking. Call it a gut feeling. I don't trust it anymore, seeing as only 2 out of the 3 turned out mafia, so I will refrain from voting atm.
Serg. Hartman seems like a newbie goon to me. Like someone who wants to post, but is held back by more experienced mafia. I'll analyse his posts a bit more after some more posts.
Overall notice: Inactivity on day 3 is fail!
God I feel dumb now. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
This whole having the players be the same people in the game is confusing me so much. XD
Pft everyone shows up once I go play a video game, reading over posts brb.
@AK: Your theory is possible, in fact, one of the people who tacted on the vote is most likely imo, ~*~Celes~*~ or The Summoner of Leviathan most likely. With that said, the fact they voted for DD isn't enough for me to vote for them, and imo me and Goldenboko should have less susipicion on us not more. when it comes down to it, me and GoBo's vote and opinions pushed DD over the edge to death, and caused the bandwagon on Demon Dude. Especially Goldenboko, DD targetted him, DD was mafia, arguing otherwise seems susipicous until GB does something worth of susipicion!
After reviewing ~*~Celes~*~ has worked off my inactive and onto my susipicion list. With little posts she gave me a bit of an illusion of being here. Seems like she's trying to breeze through the days, and her votes have been susipicius. Last minute tack ons to NeoTifa and DD.
My susipicion list is such:
1. Momiji
2. Celes
3. TSoL
4. AK (Only slightly, because she's tried to raise doubt on Goldenboko, who imo, has confirmed himself and I remember a lot of games were mafioso were the ones always trying to "unconfirm" confirmed townies).
4. Inactives
Oh wow, lots of posts while I've been socializing. Sorry guys that I haven't been here today. Give me a little bit and i'll read over today's discussions.
lol 4. inactives is suppose to say "5. inactives"
Dear God, man, you're right!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
This totally changes everything. Let's lock up the dead people in a closet, stop all discussion for today and totally focus on this travesty.
I couldn't resist. xD
Well, not exactly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's KnightMore to come, but first I want to get this paranoid theory off my chest that's been nagging me for awhile now. The more I think about it the likelier it seems, and my partner doesn't totally disagree so I'm not completely crazy...
This was totally and completely random and made zero sense. So we all lynched him:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Demon Dude
I actually made this post before that:
Wouldn't it be a bit weird to call attention to a strategy I would be using? :bigsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] GoldenbokoOk, lot's of things to cover I see.
Now there are four people I have my eyes on now:
In the case of Miriel, qwerty really sums it up quite nicely in this post:
That and the fact that her arguments with DD seem a little.. fake. Not in that they didn't happen, but more in the fact that mafia often vote for each other on day one, then unvote later on. With that they fight a lot with each other, just to show that they aren't friendly with each other. I'll keep my eye on her posts, but it doesn't warrant a vote yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] qwertyxsora
In the case of DD, I can't really say that this connection with Miriel bothers me, it's more the way he posts. Agressive, then docile. Often an strategy of Mafia who recognize that nobody rallies around them.
Then there's qwerty. He's been observant. Highly observant and moderatly aggressive. The kind of observant and aggressive a normal townie isn't. It could also be the real Goldenboko, who is usually very involved. And by involved I mean until the point of obsessive. :p But as he could just as well be a power role(who often feel the need to get involved), I will merely keep an eye out at any pattern in his posts.
Then the final contestant, Neotifa. I know who this is. Mostly because of the typing roleplaying fiasco. And I know this person only roleplays extreme stupid newbie when he/she has something to hide. But no contribution isn't really her/his style. An enigma wrapped in a puzzle wrapped in a soft deli taco with sour cream.
I'm balancing my vote between Neotifa and Demon Dude right now. I'll give my first real vote in a few hours.
DD's big attack was merely a retaliatory strike against me, which pushed me over the edge to vote for him.
I voted DD strictly based on the fact that I found him to be suspicious. We got lucky first lynch and started the game out well.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
NeoTifa was suspicious. I didn't even realize that the day was almost up. If you hadn't have let everyone know, time would've slipped by and I wouldn't have voted at all. Thanks. So I voted NeoTifa, though I guess based on wrong reasoning. To be absolutely honest, it probably would've taken a lot to sway me from voting NeoTifa, considering the fact that I had almost no suspicions. Too early on, I think.
So second lynching didn't go too well. On top of that, another potential help for the town was killed. We did get one Mafian, so I guess it's pretty evened out right now, but still. It's demoralizing.
Hah. Exactly. Every one of my posts explains perfectly that I'm having trouble pinning my suspicions on any one person in particular. I guess I can understand how that would make me look suspicious.
P:
Wow I procrastinated with reading this.
My Suspicious list (in no order):
TSoL
Celes
Momiji
Denmark
Townies (again no order):
Miriel
AK
Gobo
Dunno:
Hartman
BoB
Psy
I don't think I missed anyone.
AK came up with a very good point about DD being a sacrifice. He's kinda right. No one did defend him, but then again do you really think mafia would link themselves on day one? If they saw him going down would they hop on and link themselves with him even though it was overwhelming on his vote count? It's a good theory but I dunno if it is right. That's why it's a theory.
Again AK pointed out celes's faults. Also her recent post "I did some things, I guess that's why i'm suspicious." I dunno you'd think you'd have some suspicions on someone. Just little inklings are ok but when we're presenting so much info, it's sometimes better if you DO look at what people say and base your own suspicions on theirs. If you really can't figure someone else to vote for don't be afraid to put a little trust in others.
Before I thought some people were hoping on the momiji thing too quick but now that I look at the rest of that day and today I can see why he's suspicious. Some of you make very convincing cases.
And Denmark. Too, I don't know, under the radar? He said he had time today but he hardly posted. He just gives me bad vibes. That's really my suspicion of him right now.
I'll vote since I don't know if i'll be back in time.
##VOTE: Celes
For reasons i've said and reasons others have.
It's not quite that I'm saying that's why I'm suspicious. I meant that, if I were looking at it from someone else's point of view, I would think that it was suspicious, so I completely understand the reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Del Murder
There's a difference between entertaining the reasoning behind someone's theories and trusting them. I don't trust anyone. And reasonably. Sorry.
Also, I'm going to go ahead and vote now. I'm not sure if I'll be back in time, and I need sleep horribly. I'm voting The Summoner of Leviathan hypocritically because of his last minute vote for DD. Maybe it's just bad play on my part with some naivety and paranoia added into the mix, but I'm thinking along the same lines as AK. I hadn't even realized before AK mentioned it that I'd voted in almost the same way, just earlier. So, slighly hypocritical, but reasonable.
I don't think my voting for DD was unreasonable at all. And it wasn't unreasonable for anyone else to vote either, so why pick out just a few of us? Like I said, I wasn't even completely sure that I was going to vote DD day one. I said that I was wondering about switching to NeoTifa, though my reasoning may have been slightly flawed, but I didn't because a few things came up and I forgot to get back here in time. Not that I couldn't have - I just didn't. I figured my reasoning was fine in DD's case anyway, so I assumed it to be fine.
I do admit that the fact that no one defended him, now that you mention it, is slightly suspicious. But couldn't that just have been because everyone found him suspicious? I find it likely. DD led by a lot of votes, all of which were rightly founded. So the fact that I voted early and happened to decide to stick with my vote makes me suspicious?
I guess.
Anyway, I'm going to bed.
Night.
:P
##Vote: The Summoner of Leviathan
Well I need a vote in since I forgot the other days. So I'm going with Summoner for if the day ends before I wake up tomorrow.
##Vote: The Summoner of Leviathan
VOTE COUNT
[2] TSoL- Denmark, ~*~Celes~*~
[1] Denmark- Momiji
[1] ~*~Celes~*~- Del Murder
Not Voting: Miriel, SH, TSoL, Psy, AK, Loony BoB, Gobo
3 hours 50 minutes to night time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ~*~Celes~*~
The bolded parts seem to contradict each other, which has made me highly suspicious right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ~*~Celes~*~I voted DD strictly based on the fact that I found him to be suspicious. We got lucky first lynch and started the game out well.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
NeoTifa was suspicious. I didn't even realize that the day was almost up. If you hadn't have let everyone know, time would've slipped by and I wouldn't have voted at all. Thanks. So I voted NeoTifa, though I guess based on wrong reasoning. To be absolutely honest, it probably would've taken a lot to sway me from voting NeoTifa, considering the fact that I had almost no suspicions. Too early on, I think.
I don't like how Denmark voted for TSoL without any reasoning. Despite this, I still think Celes is the most scummy at this time, so my vote goes to her for now.
##Vote: Celes
I have like -2 minutes to write this, so here I go.
I am inclined to vote Momiji, but last time I had to choose between my gut and who seemed most suspisious, I picked the wrong one. So I'm going with my gut. If I'm wrong today I promise not to do that anymore. :p
##vote: ~Celes~
Boy, this is kinda the same as killing her myself, isn't it? :( Stupid deciding vote.
VOTE COUNT
[3] ~*~Celes~*~- Del Murder, Loony BoB, Gobo
[2] TSoL- Denmark, ~*~Celes~*~
[1] Denmark- Momiji
Not Voting: Miriel, SH, TSoL, Psy, AK
1 hour 15 left to night.
Those who haven't voted really need to work harder, we need more discussion and voting~
Should be over now, shouldn't it? People need to vote, you're holding the game up guys :)
I'm not surprised I'm on the chopping block. I know I haven't posted much, but that's because I don't feel like I have anything useful to contribute, not because I'm trying to fly under anyone's radar. Anyway, my vote is purely to save myself, and because I'm interested in knowing who's playing her.
##Vote: ~*~Celes~*~
Accuse me of bandwagoning or being scum if you will, I have nothing to hide. Much like 'GoBo is always Mafia', I'm always town :tongue:
Crap. Sorry I forgot to vote before going to sleep guys D:
If I was to vote I probably would've voted for Momiji.
EDIT BY WAY OF POST: TSoL. Wtf? Again you miss the entire day >:0 Yeah your vote wouldn't even count anyway, day's over >:0
Cid hasn't officially closed the day yet so I got my vote in last minute. You got a problem with that GoBo?
Hasn't closed it because he isn't here, as far as I see it, the timelimit still ran out :bounce:
I still voted at least, so I can't be accused of abstaining. I would've voted earlier but I woke up late. That's not a crime :tongue:
Aerith's Knight
Goodness...I'm not going to bother because it wouldn't count, but my vote would have gone to Celes (I asked my partner to do that before logging off when I went to bed xD).
Anywayz.
It's DD not defending himself that bothered me more than other people not defending him. But whatever.
[4] ~*~Celes~*~- Del Murder, Loony BoB, Gobo, TSoL
[2] TSoL- Denmark, ~*~Celes~*~
[1] Denmark- Momiji
Not Voting: Miriel, SH, Psy, AK
Celes was just walking along. She saw the swirl of collasped nuclei as she walked past the body of NeoTifa. She sat there for a long long time trying to bring her back to life, because she was an inventor, and I guess thats a scientist... She ended up creating a black hole on accident and narrowly escaped getting sucked into it... Then Stephen Hawking came by and said some stuff so smart that Celes brain exploded... So she died...
[M] ~*~Celes~*~ was an Inventor, played by Death By Moogles
Crappy flavor by LoM
Night actions now!
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Gobo was sitting down for some Gysahl Green Cake while watching a late night movie. After finishing it, and the movie, there was a knock at his door. The person at it asked"Did you order the fish?" "yes, that was me." replied Gobo. After taking a nice long sniff, he died due to poison that was activated by smelling dead fish. Gobo was a Vanilla Townie played by AK.
With 10 left it takes 6 to lynch. 24 hours starts now.
Gah, we're not doing too well now. I won't be on for a while, because my brother needs the computer for his assignments. Hopefully there'll be some more discussion, I just hate that I won't be here for it.
After reviewing the thread during the night phase... The Summoner of Leviathan is scum. I say that confidently, I would be shocked to see it otherwise.
Look at how scummy this post is. First he refuses to give us information on NeoTifa, Momiji, and Laddy. Then he completely sits fence on me. Why? Afraid to state your mind? I know I've done some scummy things, but sitting fence that badly could only be because he doesn't want to have me rip him appart and reveal him for scum. Now look at that last one, power role speculation. I probably would've died that night if it wasn't for my some good, and bad luck. Didn't anyone else find Yar-Yars death a bit, strange? He was easily up for the chopping block soon if the mafia made pushed for his death, I was easily convinced.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] The Summoner of LeviathanI already gave my thoughts on NeoTifa, Momiji and Laddy. As for you, you're smart. You might be scum, you might not be. I honestly can't tell either way. I can tell you have a power role though, which hopefully is one that benefits the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
ROLECLAIM+THEORY: I think I was targetted that night by the mafia NOT Yar-Yars, for the above stated post, the mafia thought I had a power role. Then why did Yaridovich die? Because I am a NEXUS my role reflected the attack off of me and onto Yar-Yars! Which is why I am still alive, and why Yaridovich, an unlikely candidate for a death that night, died.
His votes have been easy and obvious. Bandwagons on NeoTifa, saves himself (by the time the day is over I may add trying to make himself "appear" to be here), and this is the most revealing to me, his vote on Demon Dude. His vote on Demon Dude was based entirely on other peoples susipicion, and was icing on the cake. By that time it was clear DD was going to die, his vote was just to try and clear himself. AK already stated that he thinks a mafioso was in on the DD kill, I agreed but said I didn't think it was me, or Goldenboko. I thought it was ~*~Celes~*~ or TSoL. Goldenboko, and Celes are dead (I know I'm the Nexus so I know I ain't the mafioso who did it). TSoL is still alive, his vote is clearly the one to try and skew the votecount!
As for TSoL's posts, they've all rung scum to me. Remember early on when qwerty joke "YOU JOKEVOTED YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE SCUM". Remember how defensive TSoL got? I think TSoL was instructed to lay low by smarter mafia the moment that happened, so he wouldn't repeat mistakes.
I have to go now, please consider what I have said. Also, I will not be here on Saturday. I do not want to be replaced though, I've come this far, if the night phase goes right I may miss little anyway.
##vote: The Summoner of Leviathan
I might as well just spill the beans now, since I'm going absolutely nowhere. I'm the Skitzo. Yes, a fracking Skitzo. Every night I can target someone and one of these things can happen: kill them, investigate them, protect them, or do nothing. I have high doubts this is all at random because I have a 50% chance of finding out their role no matter what and so far my results have been great.[/sarcasm] ( Killing them would just let the other players know too. )
Night 1 I targeted Miriel, because the whole "Gobo is always Mafia" was sadly all I had to go by, and I got no results.
Night 2 I targeted Momiji who was at the top of my suspicion list--no results.
Night 3 I targeted Del Murder, just to see if the Skitzo was actually worth something, and to my surprise--no results.
Why am I saying this? You should already know Town is playing a losing game and I'd like to eliminate my name from any suspicion lists as best as I can. Inactives are to blame, so I'm also to blame. But at least I have some posts. Yesterday there were no traces of Psychotic whatsoever.
The funny thing is though, if I were the Mafia I'd have killed the most active posters off from the start...like Miriel. I mean, if the Mafia has a combined IQ higher than 50, then surely they would've eliminated the most [strike]hyper[/strike]active Townie especially in this kind of game where you have a crapload of inactives. But had Miriel not roleclaimed Nexus, I would've thought he was Mafia and would've gotten a guaranteed vote from me.
All I have to go by is what you say about TSoL so here I go.
##Vote: [M] TSoL
Aerith's Knight
I concur :holmes:
I'm not so sure about that Schitzo roleclaim, though...I mean isn't that pretty much Jack of All Trades?
Imma wait until my partner and I can converse before voting or really getting into big discussion.
(So don't speed lynch, please xD)
Well this sure is an interesting start to the day. 2 role claims and a dead GoBo.
I'm somewhat inclined to believe Miriel's theory as it does make some good sense and would help back up my suspicions towards Summoner. Though I'm a paranoid bastard and the role claim makes me not want to believe it just because Nexus is one of those unprovable ones and a decent one for Mafia to roleclaim.
Sergeant's role claim I'm slightly more inclined to believe just because it's not the standard claim mafian's try to make. But then again we've seen some crazy claims here at EoFF.
DAMN YOU MIRIEL >:/ now it seems like I'm bandwagoning.
I think TSoL is scummy. I just feel it in my gut.
The day was over, Celes had a lead vote over him. There was no need to try to save himself. I think he was just trying to set up a vote so he couldn't be led back to anyone. Or maybe he was voting so he voted and wouldn't be yelled at for that, but he bandwagoned so it wouldn't be suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] The Summoner of Leviathan
He keeps trying to say he's avoiding bandwagoning but he keeps doing it! It's like he's using that as his cover. "i'm not bandwagoning so i'll vote them even though I really am just bandwagonning".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] The Summoner of Leviathan
Even by his own logic, He's laying low. He says he's active so it's not the cba playing style. He's around just not here. When he does show up he just skims the thread and throws a bandwagon vote.
I dunno I feel in my gut TSoL is scum. If i'm wrong, well i wont trust my gut again lol.
##Vote: TSoL
Oh yeah, hartman, you didn't get anything cause I can't do anything. :P Just Vanilla Townie here.
EDIT BY POSTING: Whoops didn't see your post ak about speed lynching. I dunno if i'll be around most this day I have class registrations. So I was getting my vote down.
I'm quite aware that my roleclaim is unprovable. But hey, I'm not going to lie to you all. Again, I think my theory makes sense, and I think TSoL is mafia.
You won't be trusting your gut again after this then. I've said time and time again that anything I have to say has been said before so anything I say will get me accused of bandwagoning. As for the voting late thing, Cid counted it, and saying it was to save myself was in case anyone else showed up late to vote me. I haven't got the smarts to be scum, or you'd know for certain by now that I am and I would've been lynched days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Del Murder
As I previously said, I mistook that for a real vote, and defending myself seemed the only option. Until I reread it and realised qwerty was joking however. Is it a crime to defend myself? No, it is not. That's the whole point of Mafia. I may not be a very good player but if I was Mafia I wouldn't have been dumb enough to make a move like that, jokevote or not. Tell me GoBo, which side are you really on? You're either a very smart townie, or scum. I still can't tell either way, and remember, if I was scum I'd know which side you were on and I sure as hell wouldn't argue with my own teammates. Therefore my only logical explanaton is that you're scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
##Vote: Miriel
:/
This game has too much inactivity. I'd vote Denmark again, if it weren't for these developments concerning TSoL.
##Vote: TSoL
*sigh*
Forgot to explain why I'd vote Denmark.
Basically, it's empty talk. It all comes down to: "I want to believe you, but I don't know that I can." Indecisiveness. It's a typical mafian strategy.Quote:
Well this sure is an interesting start to the day. 2 role claims and a dead GoBo.
I'm somewhat inclined to believe Miriel's theory as it does make some good sense and would help back up my suspicions towards Summoner. Though I'm a paranoid bastard and the role claim makes me not want to believe it just because Nexus is one of those unprovable ones and a decent one for Mafia to roleclaim.
Sergeant's role claim I'm slightly more inclined to believe just because it's not the standard claim mafian's try to make. But then again we've seen some crazy claims here at EoFF.
What the hell is this? Honestly? I CANNOT BE SCUM BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN LYNCHED YET! Seriously, wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] The Summoner of LeviathanYou won't be trusting your gut again after this then. I've said time and time again that anything I have to say has been said before so anything I say will get me accused of bandwagoning. As for the voting late thing, Cid counted it, and saying it was to save myself was in case anyone else showed up late to vote me. I haven't got the smarts to be scum, or you'd know for certain by now that I am and I would've been lynched days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Del Murder
My arguments to that are the bolded sections next to his posts. TSoL thanks for digging yourself a bigger hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] The Summoner of LeviathanAs I previously said, I mistook that for a real vote, and defending myself seemed the only option. Until I reread it and realised qwerty was joking however. Is it a crime to defend myself? No, it is not. -No it isnt' a crime? Is it odd that you were so jumpy? Yes. That's the whole point of Mafia. I may not be a very good player but if I was Mafia I wouldn't have been dumb enough to make a move like that, jokevote or not.- Again wtf is this? I WAS DUMB ENOUGH TO DO THIS! BUT IF I WAS MAFIA I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THAT STUPID! Yeah, sure. Tell me GoBo, which side are you really on? You're either a very smart townie, or scum. -Thank you captain obvious. Because you really need moar fencesitting I still can't tell either way, and remember, if I was scum I'd know which side you were on and I sure as hell wouldn't argue with my own teammates. Therefore my only logical explanaton is that you're scum. -OMG GUESS WHAT? HE WANTS TO LYNCH ME! ME MUST BE MAFIA! Haha, great job bud. Because that's not retaliatory at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
##Vote: Miriel
Also, regarding this scitzo-ness of Sarge. I don't know whether or not to believe it, but if it is truth, I think you should target inactives. If you kill them, good job because when it comes down to it, at this point of the game inactives are just going to sink us, if you investigate them, good job, that means we won't be worrying about so and so, flying under the radar, if you protect or do nothing, oh well, it could've been worse, like killing a doc.
The Summoner of Leviathan (4)- Miriel, Sergeant Hartman, Del Murder, Momiji
Miriel (1)- TSoL
There are 9 alive, so it only takes 5 to lynch. Only 1 more for TSoL and the day is done
Only 4 hours and 20 minutes left...
Not voting... Denmark, Psychotic, Loony BoB, Aerith's knight
If you havent voted 3 times(75%!), then you will die today. This is more than enough to be fair. Either vote, or die.
Danger of death- Denmark, Sergeant Hartman(if he unvotes), Psychotic(already dead)
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God dammit everyone hurry up and vote! And what do you mean Psychotic is already dead!?! :eek:
He has already missed 3 votes. He will die tonight.
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Mafia's gonna win this just because a ton of inactives are going to be instantly NKed :(
That may be the caseQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miriel
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##Vote: Denmark
Simply because I'm leaning towards Summoner, but I don't want the day to end yet. And I need a vote to keep town from losing another person.
Aerith's Knight
Alright...we've only got about an hour left so I may as well put my vote down. Sorry for being so lazy today :p
##Vote: TSoL
I could say why, but I'd just be repeating what Del and Miriel said anyway.
You clearly don't know the player then. :p I'm the most indecisive person this side of the planet. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
That last line alone makes me more suspicious of you, kind of like your trying to subtly make everyone think you really are a townie.Quote:
I'm quite aware that my roleclaim is unprovable. But hey, I'm not going to lie to you all.
If not for the fact that your theory does hold some merit and makes some sense I would probably vote you today just out of some bat gut feelings and a few choice words you've said.
So I think your suspicious, but I think there's more likely and suspicious people ahead of you.
I'm still leaning towards Denmark, but my partner finally suggested some things to me over MSN. I'll read over them some more so I can make it understandable for you, then I will vote. Hopefully I get back in time
Okay, I'll try to make this as plain as I can. It'll probably end up with me looking scummy, but whatever. I need to add something to the thread anyway.
Miriel and Laddy both voted for DD, then unvoted him for no real apparent reason. However, Miriel revoted DD when it looked like he was going down, maybe to avoid suspicion. DD and Miriel both voted for GB and Celes to promt conversation, and they both ended up town.
qwerty voted for Miriel day one, and died that night. Maybe qwerty's justification was good? I'm not sure, so I can't comment.
Anyway, the general gist is that Miriel and Laddy had similar voting patterns and Laddy turned up scum. Therefore, my partner suggests that Laddy and Miriel are scum buddies.
Although, I'm in control at the moment, and I'm still not entirely convinced on his theories. Hopefully it helps spark someone else though. My vote should come later after I read through a bit more
Laddy was a Serial Killer. Not Mafia. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Loony BoB
The rest of it seems plausible though.
I just skimmed through and saw red, so I assumed Laddy was scum. My mistake. That detracts from the overall plausibility, but I thought it was a pretty well conceived theory considering my partner only just read the thread for the first time on the 20th xD
Well I'm a goner :tongue:
EDIT BY WAY OF POST: Tsk tsk town, why must you always lynch one of your own? You'll see soon enough that I'm just a harmless townie.
And in response to GoBo, I suck at mafia so if I was scum I'd have majorly screwed up days ago.
Going purely off the theory that my partner had, I'll vote for Miriel. I don't think it will overly make a difference, but voting is compuslory and all. TSoL isn't that high on my suspicions list, so I don't want to cast the last vote. Hopefully we get scum this time round though.
##Vote: Miriel
Ok TSoL has died...
The Summoner of Leviathan (5)- Miriel, Sergeant Hartman, Del Murder, Momiji, AK
Miriel (2)- TSoL, Loony BoB
Denmark (1)- Denmark
Not Voting: Psy(:()
I guess psy is getting replaced though so I wont kill him, even though I have the best death ever for him. I will just make it TSoL's death scene then I guess...
TSoL was walking along, and he got tired. He fell asleep, so we all got markers and drew on his face. He woke up, looked in the mirror, and was so embarrassed he killed himself...
TSoL was a Mafia Goon, played by Blue Harvest
Night Actions now.
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So Psy awoke from his 4 day coma, and he said "oh, it is great to be alive!" Then a boulder fell from the sky and crushed him. Ak just so happened to see the humor in this and laughed so hard his lungs imploded...
Psychotic was a Doctor, played by dolentrean and then AK(for 1 night choice that didnt matter:p)
AK was a vanilla townie, played by Jessweeee and wulfy girl
Yes, the doctor was inactive...
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch
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I was the one who killed Psy!!! MIRIEL!!!
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Also, regarding this scitzo-ness of Sarge. I don't know whether or not to believe it, but if it is truth, I think you should target inactives. If you kill them, good job because when it comes down to it, at this point of the game inactives are just going to sink us, if you investigate them, good job, that means we won't be worrying about so and so, flying under the radar, if you protect or do nothing, oh well, it could've been worse, like killing a doc.
I am not a happy camper. :mad2:
*headdesk*
I've got absolutely nothing at the moment, I'm still shocked by the inactive doctor thing.
Oh Hartman, that sucks :(
Ok Summoner was scum in the end. So that's 3 scum down, 2 mafia. So that means 1-2 more mafia left and town wins. Let's do this!!!
Miriel, I'm finding less suspicion towards you of the moment because you did root out mafia, though I'm not going to say it entirely rules out you being mafia trying to kill off a fellow scum mate you all figured was on the block to die anyways and trying to keep distance and clear suspicion.
I'm going to look over some of Summoners posts later and see if I can't find anything fun and interesting.
Yeah.... I'm gonna stick with my suspicions.
##Vote: Denmark
Care to elaborate Momiji? I think the only real argument people made against me thus far was my inactivity. And I think that's a rather weak argument when there's others who have been more sketchy as of late.
Does anyone have suggestions for who Hartman should target?
Yeah, please explain Momiji. The only arguments I saw were inactivity, which doesn't hold up in this half of the game.
Where'd Hartman get to? Do you have any thoughts, Sarge?
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Originally Posted by [M] Denmark
I've explained it before. His indecisiveness, along with his early inactivity and recent "lolimtown" post is just screaming scum to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Loony BoB
Oh, I'm here. I was just...around.
I'm all out of ideas on who I should target, funny how the first person I kill is a Doctor, even if they were inactive.
My suspicion throughout the game was Momiji because of awkward voting patterns, which I felt was OK at the time, but that's too much of a risk to take when so close to the end.
But Momiji, would you like to elaborate a little more on your Denmark suspicion?
Oh, well there you go. :thumb:
Do you suspect any other people, because that's not very good of a reason to lynch someone. "Just a hunch."
I also suspect BoB. First he showed hostility to "Miriel", and now he seems defensive of Denmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
And, unfortunately, hunches are all that I can go on while voting.
I'm not trying to be defensive, Denmark is actually high on my suspicion list too. He voted for TSoL rather quickly, without much reasoning but Celes ended up lynched. I'm just trying to make sure I have everyone's reasonings so I can decide properly
This post makes me suspect Momiji LESS. The NeoTifa bit doesn't help, but Laddy was scum in the end. I think he was trying to defend Laddy and cast suspicion on a townie, though that's just my rather messy opinion. I hope you understand what I meantQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] The Summoner of LeviathanWhy those three specifically? Might they be your fellow scummates? :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Aerith's Knight
Ok, NeoTifa. She hasn't done anything wrong the way I see it, aside from playing the stupid card which is a little unfair to the real NeoTifa who has a habit of correcting my spelling/grammar on msn a lot. Could she be scum? Possibly, but I doubt it.
Laddy: I haven't really been paying attention to him. I'll have to read back but he seems safe in my eyes.
Momiji: Too quick to out GoBo/Miriel as Mafia. GoBo is not always Mafia and judging a player purely on previous games is a little unfair. Is Momiji scum? In this broadcaster's opinion, yes.
I probably look real jumpy right now, but I have another theory to add to this pool of stuff I've got going :D One sec while I make it understandable
Ok BoB. You need to stop with the laddy thing. Laddy was a SK a Sk has no connection to the mafia besides the one game where it was a Mafia SK.
Someone already corrected you for it and it seems like you're just trying to confuse the town now. That puts you high on my list now. Thanks.
Well I can't really prove I'm town unless I die. I mean I guess I could roleclaim cop or something and try to prove my role. But it would be kinda worthless since I'm not a cop nor any role that can prove itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Momiji
As for the indecisiveness I already said if you knew who the player was you'd realize it's just how I am. Usually. XD
Really your recent posts here make my more suspicious of you. You always seemed a little....off in earlier posts.
As of right now I think your either scum or a bad/new player.
I voted a confirmed mafia early on rather then lynch a townie and that makes me suspicious? :confused:Quote:
I'm not trying to be defensive, Denmark is actually high on my suspicion list too. He voted for TSoL rather quickly, without much reasoning but Celes ended up lynched.
So if there were 4 mafia to start, then that means there's 2 now, if I had to guess on who they were I'm leaning towards you both actually. But I still gotta check out the other survivors at the moment and see if they do anything that reeks scum.
Now it seems to me like you're trying to protect momiji who has had suspicion from the start, that I even mentioned prior that TSoL seemed to be connected to.
Shoot, whoops. I keep forgetting Laddy was SK. Back to the drawing board...
Denmark, what I meant was it looked kinda like you were voting TSoL to seem town when he got lynched, but Celes died anyway. I'm just tossing out random theories here, because someone needs to find a spark soon else the town is screwed. Heck, if I seem scummy then just lynch me, because I'm not being much help anyway
Yeah. My theory, Momiji and BoB are our last two mafia. :D
The purpose of lynching isn't to get rid of bad town. It's to kill the mafia. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Loony BoB
I understand why you think I'm scum, but can you explain why you think BoB is scum and why Denmark is NOT scum?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Del Murder
That's a fair call, I've played really terrible. Hopefully I'll be better the second time I play this game. Also, I think I voted for townies and against mafia every time :D
Just from what he's said lately, and you being scummalishish. It seems he's trying to draw attention off you and confuse the town.
What I think Del is onto is that inactives suddenly become active when the game is about to finish. That'd scream scummy to me, and all I have is a hunch that Denmark is scum, and that's the best I can go by. Sorry dude.
##Vote: [M] Denmark
I'm active because it's the weekend and I skipped an athletics competition so I could post :D
By the by, there's 6 people left if no one has counted yet. If there's 2 mafia then a wrong lynch today and no doctor (lest there is a second one in play) means town loses if we get this wrong.
So with this in mind, Del and Miriel are the 2 most likely townies in my eye. Meaning Sergeant, Momiji, and BoB are on my top list.
Of them, BoB's latest few posts either gives me scum or new player vibes, and I'm leaning more towards new player unless he's some kind of mastermind genius. But for now I'm thinking he's a rather new player.
Momiji and Sergeant both seem to be attacking me, and for the same reasons, vague "Your inactive and just started becoming active".
And both voted me so quickly (trying to speed lynch?). Though I can't imagine mafia would be so dumb as to group up this early in the day and votes, even if it's so close to the end of the game.
Hey at least it brought up some discussion.
So now could you tell us why you think Del is town?
If it eases anyone's minds, this is my first real game. I was a team in HP mafia but I made all of two posts. So I suck horribly. Hartman's Skitzo roleclaim seems fairly accurate to me, otherwise there would have only been one night kill. That, or someone on town has a night kill ability.
Simply put, the way he talks and thinks. They don't scream scum to me and scream more town then anything to me.
Oh also while I was thinking I nearly overlooked something key...
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Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
Funny how you claim you killed him (being skitzo) and yet Psy was on the inactive and not voting list. The not voting 3 times = you die list.Quote:
Yes, the doctor was inactive...
Hi thar Mr. Mafia!
##Vote: Sergeant Hartman
You see, this is where you're wrong, honeybunch. Psychotic was replaced with Aerith's Knight, so I can assure you I was the one who killed him! :aimkiss:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] DenmarkSimply put, the way he talks and thinks. They don't scream scum to me and scream more town then anything to me.
Oh also while I was thinking I nearly overlooked something key...
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Originally Posted by [M] Sergeant Hartman
Funny how you claim you killed him (being skitzo) and yet Psy was on the inactive and not voting list. The not voting 3 times = you die list.Quote:
Yes, the doctor was inactive...
Hi thar Mr. Mafia!
##Vote: Sergeant Hartman
You shouldn't have done that, now it's just my instinct to be more suspicious of you.
But didn't Cid say that Psy wasn't going to be killed because AK took over?