And, you make a good point, Teddy.
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And, you make a good point, Teddy.
Come on guys. The posting on day 1 = mafia argument again? I'm not saying that there wasn't reason there, Laddy is suspicious no matter what role he has, but let's come up with some better reasoning.
I'm still suspicious of Teddy. Here's why. I wish I had time to post this yesterday because I think we could have spared poor Ike.
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Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
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Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
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Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
Notice how he originally says I was on to something but then turns on me once I vote for him. And how can I be trying to save my own hide when I hadn't been voted for or suspected at all yet? And we also see the posting = mafia argument, which is plain stupid. Next:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Two things. One, Ike and I were obviously not working together since a VT doesn't know anything else about other roles. Second, he's all of a sudden using the self-preservation argument only after I mentioned it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
I voted for Clinton yesterday because his acting like a fool made me think he was trying to post without contributing. I don't suspect him now. Why? He had ample opportunity to change his vote to Ike to keep himself in the game, but he didn't. Also his posts after getting the heat put on seem sincere and don't appear panicky. Scum or not, he needs to post more.
Why was carter killed? Could have been random, or could be trying to kill off voters for Teddy setting up the Clinton lynch for today. Clinton is too obvious and we need to broaden our horizons.
I also suspect George W. He made a lone vote for Taft and didn't do much otherwise. Mafia tend to spread out their votes on day 1. We have at least 3 scum in a 16 person game, possibly 4. Only JFK didn't vote so its pretty likely that the mafia spread their votes between Clinton and Ike and possibly one other.
That's enough for now.
Since I think I've said enough on Teddy, I'm going to go through the posts from day one with the knowledge that there were to townies among them, and see what I notice about other people. Might be a while before I get back to this, but I'll have some time later to play.
*needs to up post count to keep the quota satisfied*
Well you do have a point about Teddy there, and same with George W.
Who do you suspect the most right now, Reagan? Obviously you hold something towards Teddy, but is there anyone else that comes to mind?
Well, get back to me on that when you've read through, anyway :p
Alright this is the list so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Main Man
Out of all of those mentioned, the following haven't posted all that much period:
George W.
JFK
Nixon
Obama
Out of those, Obama has posted the most. George W., Nixon, and JFK have posted a maximum of about 2-3 times each.
I'm not going to pin the inactives as mafians just yet, but we need to prod them into posting more so they can contribute so we can get a better general consensus of who needs to go next. Hopefully we'll actually get some scum this time :(
Also, if I recall, John Adams hasn't said much either.
Don't forget inactives will be replaced.
[quote='[M] Bill Clinton;2649353']Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] FDR
Just to make a point more obvious, I said this hours before the final lynch. I don't want people to think it was completely out of the blue.
Also, I do apologise for being defensive. It was the first vote against me, and that's enough to make anybody feel a little taken aback. I endorse voting earlier and looking for a final vote later, it makes more discussion and allows us to avoid non-voters.
John Adams, however, voted for Roosevelt and said he would come back later and re-evaluate, which he never did. All I want is for him to come back and say something about it, because it's scummy to not touch upon things such as that. It was close to affecting the final day result as well, which is not a good thing. I could forgive him because of timezones, but he is aware of the time in his area, and should of given us some warning if he would be unable to get back on.
I will leave him for now though, as long as we get an explanation of some sort as to why he couldn't come.
Reagan seems to know what he's doing, and I think he will be a pivotal member to the town, if he is so aligned. However, the paranoid side of me says this could be a ploy, and Reagan is distancing himself from Roosevelt. I'm more inclined towards thinking it is genuine suspicion, but when playing a game such as this everything must be taken into account. I only bring Reagan up because he seems like a powerful player, which is good, as long as he's town.
Taft and Nixon seem like good ideas for an early vote though. Nixon's only contribution is an unexplained vote in the early stages, and Taft seems dodgy to me. He bandwagoned after Roosevelt did, and then promptly left. I feel these two may have been overlooked, and maybe we should focus, at this early stage on people like them.
I will vote Nixon, just because I want more activity from him, and he needs to sexplain his vote. I know inactives get replaced, but a mafia member could be inactive on purpose, and Nixon's sneaky vote could of been planted by the mafia. I will likely switch, but this is my best bet right now.
##Vote: Nixon.
I will watch and see what else unfolds before us. I am open to questions, for I have nothing to hide.
my main focus at the moment would be Clinton. I know I'm really riding him hard (lol) about his style of posting day 1 but I believe it to be some sort of ruse, and that just plain unsettles me. I can't say much for certain because hey, it's just the beginning of day 2 yet and there are only a couple of us really active in the thread right now. But I just can't help the vibe I get off of him.
Alright, Reagan, I'll bite. If you've been gunning for me so hard, let's take a look at you, shall we?
You also voted very quickly what seemed like to be no reason at all. Maybe trying not to bandwagon as to seem less suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
You said this and yet accused me of overthinking or posting too many times. Overthinking is never a good thing. That's what Mafia do. The best is to take what you can at face value and look into them a bit deeper when necessary, not just jumping on everything that "doesn't look right"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
Joking around is hardly grounds for putting someone up. Your constant vote changing makes me wary.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald ReaganI disagree with most of that. If I was in the lead votewise I'd do the same thing. Saving your skin is a perfectly acceptable move by a town player. It was a little too early to do that but it doesn't seem odd to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] FDR
Quoting people throwing out random votes and asking why is what I meant by trying too hard. Trying to hard to look like you are trying. The earliest votes are random, plain and simple. But I hesitate to vote for someone who is actually stimulating discussion, which Ike is doing.
I was going to make a post similar to FDR's latest one. Clinton has just been joking around and not doing much of anything worthwhile. The other active players are at least trying to form opinions. Clinton may be trying to get his posts in without getting on anyone's radar. Let's try this and see where it goes.
#Unvote: Lincoln
#Vote: Clinton
Bandwagoning, though the term is not the best, is the most we CAN do. Otherwise we're into sudden death mode. Yes, the mafia can just sit back once there is a bandwagon but changing your votes 26 times throughout the course of this game isn't going to get you many points either.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
I'd have to say that Reagan is either mafia or cult. I don't trust this guy, and not only because he's gunning for me so bad, but because of his long rambling posts and vote changing. I'm not sure I can trust someone that's paranoid.
Eh, no point in prodding them. The mod'll take care of those below the limit, and those just above the limit will probably be lynched starting day four. That's how it usually goes anyway. As far as Carter's assassination goes, I think the mafia just figured it'd be the death that causes the least amount of trouble for them.
Also: Do not lynch Bill. I mean, I'm no cop or anything, but I'm pretty certain he's not mafia. It just feels like all those other times we vote off Townies for dumb reasons :|
Sorry but that made me laugh a little xD Freudian slip!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] FDR
Back on the proper train of thought, Jefferson, how do you "know" Clinton is innocent?
or, rather, what makes you so certain?
Yeah, I want to know as well. Seems odd that you would be so certain.
I agree. How can one truly know unless you are working together?
I bandwagoned because I didn't feel like anything that had happened on Day 1 would have given me a better reason to vote someone else. Are you trying to say what I did was just as scummy as being voted because someone believed I was in possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] FDR
But really, I agree with you on that I'd like to hear what Nixon was thinking when he voted for Bill Clinton. Seriously, if you're town, didn't it ever cross your mind that doing something like that would seem really scummy?
I haven't checked the earlier posts yet. I will if I get bored enough later. It's more fun to react to things as they happen.
Let me respond to Teddy real quick. Ted, you are either really bad at this game or I have figured you out.
1. My vote for Lincoln was mostly random, and I changed it later. I feel the best way to get people talking in the beginning is to get a vote out there. At that early stage Lincoln was as good a bet as any for me. You can't read too much into what happens early on day 1, unless of course you are a mafia trying to spread lies.
2. I don't think I ever accused you of overthinking or posting too many times. Please point out where I did.
3. I changed my vote twice on day 1. That's not 26 times, and that was DAY ONE. The day with the least amount of information to go on. Of course people are going to change their votes then!
Here's the kicker:
You agreed with me right after I posted that, and, in fact, voted the same way! How can you accuse me of something you yourself did? At least I came up with my reasoning myself instead of playing follow the leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Gonna vote Teddy now because there is way too much inconsistency here. I'll unvote later if I see the need to, but this guy needs a vote on him.
#Vote: Teddy R.
Also let's keep an eye on Bush Sr. Calling out Jefferson for being so certain about Clinton smells like a mafia trying to flush out a cop. And my favorite Teddy bear also followed suit. I highly doubt both TJ and Clinton are scummates and if they were I don't think he would make that comment. That would be the only reason I see to call attention to it.
Not sure how I feel about FDR. He's playing a good game, but posting enough that he'd slip up sooner or later. No reason to get into it with him at the moment.
Okay, well I'm happy that you responded!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] TaftI bandwagoned because I didn't feel like anything that had happened on Day 1 would have given me a better reason to vote someone else. Are you trying to say what I did was just as scummy as being voted because someone believed I was in possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] FDR
But really, I agree with you on that I'd like to hear what Nixon was thinking when he voted for Bill Clinton. Seriously, if you're town, didn't it ever cross your mind that doing something like that would seem really scummy?
Reagan, are you sure you aren't being a tad harsh? Roosevelt is inconsistent and flippy floppy, but I don't get bad vibes from him. I suppose we're entitled to opinions though, and I can't say he's acting like a great town right now.
Votecount
Theodore Roosevelt (1) - Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon (1) - FDR
Give me something better than inconsistent and flippy floppy to go on and I'll hear you out!
How about Jefferson, who has yet to answer the Roosevelts and I about our question regarding Clinton? You don't find that dodgy, Reagan?
I actually found it worse that you guys jumped on him right away for that. Why would a mafia ever say something like that?
Because sometimes people are spontaneous and don't think properly. If Jefferson is going to claim something like that, we will want an explanation, otherwise we could just be led into a trap.
Because he could be a new player or a terrible player, so he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Or it's an experienced player trying to trick us :shifty:
Either way, it just doesn't sit right, especially because he really had no back up, simply "I'm certain he's innocent." Poor. Very poor.
##Unvote: Nixon
##Vote: Thomas Jefferson.
I am likely to change, but I'm off for a while and I'd like to apply some pressure. Keep interrogating people! There are too many directions which aren't leading anywhere.
I'm going to hold back on my vote until we hear from some more people. I'd like to give those under the microscope to at least have a chance to explain.
Votecount
FDR (1) - Thomas Jefferson
Nixon (0) -FDR
Teddy Roosevelt (1) - Ronald Reagan
Thomas Jefferson (1) - FDR
Not Voting
Bill Clinton, John Adams, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Theodore Roosevelt, Barack Obama, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy
I agree with Sr. after my horrid play yesterday I'd like to take a little wait and see approach. There are a few of us that are pretty active and many that aren't I'd like to hear more from them before I make any votes or any more assumptions.
How much time left, Washy washy?
At around 8 AM EST tomorrow. So that's about 15 hours from now.
Okay.
Also, can you update the post count? I'm not sure which posts you actually count towards the quota and I want to make sure i'm good to go so far.
Hmmm... What Jefferson said seems pretty familiar to me... Oh right!
Yeah I said that first, but you can't be sure that Bill is innocent. If he doesn't improve, and if I don't find someone better, as I said, he will be getting my vote. I would rather vote off someone who I am not fully sure of then vote off a possibly useful townie.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Abraham Lincoln
These inactives I just have to wait on, hopefully they will be replaced. I can only really look at the active people, and on day three there will be a rush of people who don't want to be replaced, so we can hopefully learn something there. As Roosevelt just said, we have to wait and see.
And now Thomas...
How the heck is this defensive in any way? It seems to me like you are trying to give him some extra attention for some reason...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] FDR
Expanding on the idea of my last post(I just made the connection)...
I think you are trying to give him a little bit of attention so he might possibly be discreditted a little bit because you feel threatened by him. By saying he is a defensive player, people may not believe his offence quite like they would before. FDR does seem like a very smart player, so thats why I think you are doing this. Now, with your role changing, I find it just as likely that you would have stayed a townie as you would have become a mafia, because George might not want someone to be so confirmed.
Also, with FDR's deleted post, I originally thought that he made a post here that he possibly meant to do at the mafia forum, but he seems too smart to do that right now.
I regret the deleted post. I assure you it was me whining though. I was annoyed the day wasn't starting, but the hosts don't need any hassle.
And yes, thank you very much for pointing the "defensive" thing out to me. It makes me more suspicious of Jefferson.
There where a few posts made before day one which did not count toward peoples total. (You only made one of these so minus 1 from your total thread post count and you have your total post count).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] George Bush Sr.
ooh ok
Allright, I'll try to get more into this. I've been quite busy with friends lately, I've been having a blast actually, I simply can't say no if a friend asks to hang out. I've asked for a partner though, so maybe this will increase my activity.
Allright, here's my thoughts..
I'm very interested in knowing Bill Clinton's alignment. Interested enough to kill him? I'm a bit tempted, but I'm not sure if I want to go in that direction. I think it would pretty much clear Reagan if he flipped town, and it would incriminate some of the later voters for Clinton if he flipped scum. At one point it seemed Clinton was the clear loser with a massive bandwagon on him. If he's mafia, maybe it would be wise of one or two of his fellows to also cast a vote on him. Reagan did a risky move and pretty much saved his ass by ending the bandwagon and calling out those who had piled on top. That would be a risky move from a mafia on day 1. They could risk losing two mafia.
edit: If Clinton is mafia, then maybe Taft or Nixon is too. I'm definitely getting some vibes from Taft.
I think Reagan is on to something with his arguments towards Roosevelt. I was thinking some of them myself while reading through this thread actually. He was suspecting both Reagan and Clinton, but as I see it, it's very unlikely that both Clinton and Reagan are mafia. Looks more like he's searching for someone to throw suspicion on. Could just be that he slipped up or missed some information before posting though.
Abraham Lincoln I'm getting a vibe from. I don't have anything concrete, but it's just a feeling of him being a little too helpful without actually being helpful. Sure, he brings some logic and actual helpfulness to the plate, but some of it seems like he's trying too hard, asking casual questions he already knows the answer to.
I'd like to vote for Roosevelt for now, see what that leads to. I... promise to check back in again before the day is over!
##Vote: T. Roosevelt
And roosevelt, about yesterday, I didn't mean that I would expand on why I suspected you, I already said everything in my post then. What I meant by saying I would be back was that, if anyone more suspicious than you popped up, maybe I'd vote for them. Same now actually, I'm waiting and thinking, I'm not holding anything back.
If he was mafia, he'd know I was town.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
I mean I am, not I was.
Okay. Guys. "xD." I put the "xD" at the end of the sentence where I said he was being defensive so you wouldn't think I was being serious when I was joking again. Please stop being dumb.
I told you all I was in school. The bell rang not too long after I posted that. It's 5:11PM right now, and I'm nice and cozy on my laptop at home, ready to post.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] George Bush Sr.
I gave you my explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] FDR
What, did you want a huge block of quoted posts and some solid "logic"? Well you're not getting any. I hardly find the things said against him enough to vote for him. It feels like they were said just for the sake of saying something.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
I still say we don't lynch him.
that is very true Bill.
And John I understand what you meant by that now, sorry for that.
I still think Reagen is trying to flip things and get any (not that there seems to be much) heat off him. I'm glad to see some more people being active but I'd still really like to hear from Nixon and Taft asap. Both have a scummy smell to them, have hardly been active and give little insight into their votes. I'm no mafia finding wizard but at least I'm trying xD
That doesn't explain why you are certain I'm town.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas JeffersonWhat, did you want a huge block of quoted posts and some solid "logic"? Well you're not getting any. I hardly find the things said against him enough to vote for him. It feels like they were said just for the sake of saying something.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
I still say we don't lynch him.
I agree that besides a feeling you have to have more information if you're so sure he's not mafia.
After reading a few posts, I don't really see why Clinton is being attacked so harshly over some Day 1 nonsense. My gut feeling tells me Clinton and Jefferson are town. But I guess my gut isn't that convincing to any of you.
I don't see how Clinton turning up Mafia would make me more likely to be Mafia too. I am more than willing to solve any "vibe" issues you may have. :monster:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] John Adams
Fine. You're mafia. Happy now?
Oh, this was posted while I was typing my last reply. TBH I'm just like you, my inexperience is in the way of me seeing who is actually scummy, but even then I still see Nixon as scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
And thank you Taft, did I ever tell you that Taft is my favorite president name :D?
Well if voting for Clinton is dumb, then how about I vote for you and see what you flip? Then we can see why you're so sure about Clinton.
I'm pretty sure Nixon is. the way he's been called out and has not said anything says to me he's either bidding his time or planning with his mafia buddies.
You talking to me, or Taft?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
I'm probably the last person who should be calling anyone out, but like Teddy I think it would be interesting to hear more from Nixon and Taft.
edit: oh, I hadn't refreshed this page in a while. I see Taft has posted.
What do you want to hear!?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] John Adams
I was talking to you, Billy. Shame on you. I try and stand up for you and you go and throw it in my face :(
And before you all go flying off the handle again, it was sarcasm. I don't actually think Bill is mafia.
My role isn't really going to reveal anything, FDR. I'll admit I didn't get Innocent Bystander again, but it's nothing special, either.
Well I guess I'm going to go ahead and vote for Nixon. Maybe we can finally hear some thoughts from him. And this isn't a final vote just voicing my thought.
##VOTE Nixon
I'm sorry, but what you said didn't make all that much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
Uhhh, I was saying that you're town and you join the others when they say it was suspicious and all that. How does that not make sense?
Jefferson it's hard to tell when you're joking and not.
Okay, well, if I add xD to something, it means I am joking. If I say something "Fine. You're mafia." right after defending that person then I probably don't mean it. Really it kills me to be serious constantly, but if it's always going to turn into a huge freaking mess then I guess I'll have to try and restrain myself :\
I dunno, but ##Vote: Clinton
Still hasn't really done anything to redeem himself. A lot has happened, buddy, let's get crackin'.
Jefferson, I will hold you tight and love you forever, just to make up for what Clinton has done :aimkiss:
Also, I propose Mafia: The Musical, in which we create an iTunes album to go along with the game theme!
I don't see why he has to redeem himself for yesterday, though. I mean, he was just kinda jokey, and then everyone was all like OH LOOK HE'S NOT BEING SERIOUS! MAFIOSO! and piled on.
No, you said that you were certain that I'm town, and yet offered no evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
and yes. We must have a musical. But back to Bill :|
And like Bill said, we'd all like to hear how you KNOW he's town.
What the smurf do you want me to do? Claim as a cop and say HERE I GOT AN INNOCENT RESULT! Because I didn't. I was fairly certain you were a townie and I said so. I don't HAVE evidence. I told you when I said that; I'm going by past lynches here.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bill ClintonNo, you said that you were certain that I'm town, and yet offered no evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
Votecount
Teddy Roosevelt (2) - Ronald Reagan, John Adams
FDR (1) - Thomas Jefferson
Bill Clinton (1) - George Bush Sr.
Nixon (0) -FDR, Theodore Roosevelt
Thomas Jefferson (1) - FDR
Not Voting
Bill Clinton, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Abraham Lincoln, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy
With the day ending at 8AM EST there is approx. 12 and a half hours left in the day and many still have to vote!
I'm glad you think I'm town, but, considering that no one had voted for me yet, it was pretty odd for you to say something like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas JeffersonWhat the smurf do you want me to do? Claim as a cop and say HERE I GOT AN INNOCENT RESULT! Because I didn't. I was fairly certain you were a townie and I said so. I don't HAVE evidence. I told you when I said that; I'm going by past lynches here.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bill ClintonNo, you said that you were certain that I'm town, and yet offered no evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
Ok, fair enough. it's just the way you made it sound was that you had some hard evidence to disprove him being mafia.
The mafia would want you to.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
A gut feeling like that isn't the best way to call someone innocent. I am, but still.Quote:
Because I didn't. I was fairly certain you were a townie and I said so. I don't HAVE evidence. I told you when I said that; I'm going by past lynches here.
It wasn't really too out of the blue, since you were almost lynched yesterday and anyone could have expected you to get X'ed today.
Let's get down to business Bill. Sorry if you've said it earlier, but who do you find supsicious?
That's exactly why I suspect the people who jumped on him right away for that. There is no conceivable way that a mafia would come out and say something like that unless he is trying to protect Clinton, his buddy. But I don't think they are together. It's much more likely the mafia are trying to flush out a cop.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bill ClintonThe mafia would want you to.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
I've read through day 1 and nothing really stands out to me in terms of posts. I did however tally up the vote history and I'll post that below.
No, but people had piled on pretty quick on Day 1, and a lot of people were naming you as a suspect. I don't think there were more than one or two actual votes when I said you were most likely a townie. Look back at the other games, who did they go for on Day 2 after the Day 1 lynchee turned out to be a townie? Several games it was the person they were going to lynch before they decided to lynch the person they did. And guess what their role usually was?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bill ClintonI'm glad you think I'm town, but, considering that no one had voted for me yet, it was pretty odd for you to say something like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bill ClintonI'm glad you think I'm town, but, considering that no one had voted for me yet, it was pretty odd for you to say something like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
It's not a gut feeling. I'm going by past lynches. I am recalling things that happened in previous games and I am making my deductions based on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bill ClintonThe mafia would want you to.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
A gut feeling like that isn't the best way to call someone innocent. I am, but still.Quote:
Because I didn't. I was fairly certain you were a townie and I said so. I don't HAVE evidence. I told you when I said that; I'm going by past lynches here.
Oh, whoops. I quoted the same post twice.
But this is a new game with a few different players. so that logic may not always work.
Not the best of going about it, but I do see your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
What, and all of those games weren't new games with a few different players? No, it doesn't mean that Bill is 100% guranteed town, but it's a safe guess.
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Taft
LarabeeNixon, but when all has posted is this:
and this:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Richard Nixon*Shakes jowls*Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Taft
it's hard to find him really suspicious. Then again that is what makes him so suspicious. Doesn't help he has yet to say why he voted for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Richard Nixon
Day 1 Voting
FDR - Jefferson
Reagan - Lincoln
Adams - Clinton
Jefferson - Eisenhower
Adams - Roosevelt
Obama - Eisenhower
W. Bush - Taft
Clinton - Obama
Eisenhower - Roosevelt
Reagan - Clinton
FDR - Clinton
Roosevelt - Clinton
Carter - Clinton
Taft - Clinton
Bush Sr. - Clinton
Reagan - Roosevelt
Jackson - Eisenhower
Carter - Roosevelt
Nixon - Clinton
Lincoln - Eisenhower
Roosevelt - Eisenhower
Eisenhower - Clinton
FDR - Eisenhower
I bolded the final votes. Look for patterns. 15/16 voted so we know at least 2 mafia voted.
Patterns I see: The rush for Clinton started after I voted for him and it started quickly. I think someone in that group is a mafia. That group is: FDR,Carter, Roosevelt, Taft, Bush Sr.
I also think someone who voted for Eisenhower in the end is mafia. Those are: Jefferson, Obama, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR.
Who are in common here? FDR and Teddy. FDR is smarter than Teddy, this much I know. I also got the sense that FDR has been defending Teddy in his posts. Go read some and tell me if you disagree. What saves FDR is that he was the deciding vote on day 1. Unless Clinton was mafia, which I don't think he is, the FDR would have no reason to stick his neck out there and vote for a town in a tie. Especially since I get the impression he is not new at this.
Teddy might be new at this. I admit I fail to consider that people sucking at this game doesn't necessarily make them mafia. Still all the evidence I can see points to him right now.
All I know is that Jefferson and Clinton are no where near my top suspects at the moment. I'd more likely go for Jackson, Lincoln, Obama, or W. because they have been flying low.
Ok, as I have said before, I think of things in worst-case scenarios, so here is what I think of Jefferson. As has been said in past games, the best townie can think like a mafia.
Jefferson: I think he thought that Bill Clinton was going to be lynched today, knew that he is a townie because he himself is a mafian, so he decided to line up behind him and when Bill is lynched, he would look that much more innocent. He went with Bill because he saw what I said about him and saw that it had a little bit of support, perfect to get enough people behind him and yet have enough to vote for him to get him lynched.
I really think I will end today with a vote for Jefferson, but anything can happen I guess.
I'm not trusting Jefferson and Reagan right now. Reagan is way too into this. He might not be mafia, but I don't think he is town at this moment. He's playing way too into this to just be a vanilla townie. He could be a cop, or he could be part of the cult.
As for Jefferson, man, you really blew it. I agree with Abe. My vote might go to Jefferson tonight.
Eh, whatever. Honestly I don't even care xD
##Kill: Bill Clinton
(SPOILER)That was a joke. I don't actually have a killing role.
Alright Teddy, I'll give you a chance. Tell me who I should vote for besides yourself, Jefferson, or Clinton. Let's talk about more than those people. Jackson or Lincoln perhaps.
#Unvote: Teddy R
It looks like you're giving up already. Even if it looks like no-one is going to believe you, it's better that you still tried to contribute to the game, maybe talk about someone else other than Clinton.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
The cult eh. Now why would you say that as if you know there is one, when there is no evidence one exists?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Alrighty then, Taft. I mean, I know it's suspicious for me to go WELL YOU VOTED FOR ME/SAID I WAS SUSPICIOUS AND THAT MAKES YOU MAFIA but that's pretty much what it comes down to for the Roosevelts and possibly even Bill. Yeah I was pretty sure he was a townie back there, but after this mess I don't even know. Anyway.
Oh, Bill DON'T YOU EVEN START ON THE KNOWING THINGS AGAIN. There is nothing one bit odd about suggesting a cult is in place.
##Unvote: FDR
##Vote: Bill Clinton
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Originally Posted by [M] Bill ClintonThe cult eh. Now why would you say that as if you know there is one, when there is no evidence one exists?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Well not just cult could be masons siblings lovers ect. all we know is there are some new roles here in this game.
Right now the one person who really bugs me is Nixon. I mean why would he post the first day then vote then go inactive for the entire 2nd day? The only thing I can think of is he's planning something with his mafia buddies. Who those buddies are, I'm really not sure at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
Forgot about Jefferson too. He's flip flopping and getting defensive. Not Huge red flags but it could mean more.
For reasons stated before and also now Jefferson going crazy and yelling and voting for someone who he just said he was certain was a townie(possibly because my theory is correct), I will vote for him now.
##Vote: Thomas Jefferson
Masons, siblings, lovers and cult have or being in games here before, so not what I would call new. New roles could also mean custom roles made up by the mods. Besides, there is no point talking about factions other then town and mafia until there is reason to believe they do exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
well of course we aren't going to know what the new roles are called unless we are one. So I can't just start naming them off :p
Nixon has scum vibes to me. But I'm leaning towards him being bait but doing nothing and just popping in to vote. Nobody has any connection to him at this point, so even if we lynched him and he turned up scum we would have nothing.
We'd have one dead scum. That's always a start.
that's a very good point Obama. Lynching Nixon isn't going to give us any leads. But getting one scum down is better than getting none.
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Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
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Originally Posted by [M] Thomas JeffersonOkay. Guys. "xD." I put the "xD" at the end of the sentence where I said he was being defensive so you wouldn't think I was being serious when I was joking again. Please stop being dumb.
I gave you my explanation.
What, did you want a huge block of quoted posts and some solid "logic"? Well you're not getting any. I hardly find the things said against him enough to vote for him. It feels like they were said just for the sake of saying something.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
I still say we don't lynch him.
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Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson started off by defending Clinton quite strongly. Then after explanations of why he said that, he begins to not care.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
And at the end of that, he votes Clinton because Clinton questioned the existance of a cult. It's true that there is no evidence, but is that something that should really cause such a reaction? I don't think so.
And if don't care, then you aren't going to try, and the town won't benefit. Unless you are mafia, you should care about the town.
##VOTE: Thomas Jefferson
That's for not caring enough, as well as sounding/acting scummy (imo)
I agree. However, my focus is elsewhere for the time being. I'm not going to stop watching him (not that he's around to watch).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Well if I sound like I don't care it's probably because I don't :|
If only I were a jester :mad2:
Edit: Though*
I'm not going to stop watching him, though.
Bad grammar is bad.
And where is W and JFK. haven't seen anything from them.
Bush Jr will likely have a partner added soon, he lives in Australia also. Spending some time with his old buddy Howard no doubt.
Jefferson, you're not making yourself look any better. Facing lynchment and you suddenly stop supporting Bill? That makes me wonder....
Nixon and George W. both haven't posted since their two posts before. Perhaps they're in cahoots? What do you guys think?
Bush Sr. I don't really think it's related. I doubt a team of mafians would all just decide to stop posting at the same time.
Yup, I'm aware of that. I'm not really on the town's side. I'm not on the mafia's side either. I'm a Mafia Serial Killer.
Also I'm sorry if I said anything really mean. I probably meant it, but yeah. Sorry :(
That wasn't a proper role claim :(
@Lincoln: You could be right, but I'm a bit paranoid about the two of them because they haven't posted. It makes me uneasy, especially when we've pretty much been prodding them the whole time.
It could just be IRL stuffs, but it seems like they haven't even been reading the thread at all =[
Bush Jr is at work currently. Washington has offered me a partner due to low post count, so I assume other people have been too. So you should be seeing more of Bush Jr soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] George Bush Sr.
I wouldn't draw any comparisons between the two of them, but don't take my word for it.
I wouldn't worry about inactives until at least day four :\
Or would I?
:shifty:
Well, I'm tired. Time to pass out. See y'all later!
I really hope a bunch of people don't try to get thier post count up by posting useless crap:eep:
And Jefferson was I right about why you sided behind Bill? I wanna know just how fricken awesome I am:)
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Originally Posted by [M] Barack ObamaBush Jr is at work currently. Washington has offered me a partner due to low post count, so I assume other people have been too. So you should be seeing more of Bush Jr soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] George Bush Sr.
I wouldn't draw any comparisons between the two of them, but don't take my word for it.
how do you know who is at work? are you working with them? that seems a little odd to me.
and where is Washington with a vote update >:(
Yes, Lincoln. You are right because I am the Mafia Serial Killer. Oh, and I really do kill during the day, so Bill should be dying along with me at the end of the day :D!
I'm currently catching up on everything. I haven't had a lot of time, but I still plan of engaging in the conversation.
The person playing Bush Jr is my best friend IRL. If that makes me scum, then kill me. I'm just trying to get the town to focus on people who are actually hiding, not busy because of time zones.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore RooseveltQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Barack ObamaBush Jr is at work currently. Washington has offered me a partner due to low post count, so I assume other people have been too. So you should be seeing more of Bush Jr soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] George Bush Sr.
I wouldn't draw any comparisons between the two of them, but don't take my word for it.
how do you know who is at work? are you working with them? that seems a little odd to me.
Mafia Serial Killer? Are you for real Jeffy?
I thought that we aren't supposed to discuss this outside of this thread. that to me would say you two have talked about this. which would be against the rules.
Once you've caught up Nixon, it would be real handy if you could share some thoughts :)
Good gracious.
At least Nixon finally showed up! Maybe we can clear some things up now.
Yup! Because I'm too busy pretending to be mafioso and planning the shootings at night, I do my Serial Killer business in broad daylight :D!
Who said we discussed Mafia outside of the thread? All I'm saying is that I know he's at work. I know he's Bush Jr because Bush Jr was the last to confirm after me, and we live in Australia which has a different time zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Teddy, calm down. Since they're best friends and all they would know when the other is at work or something, there's nothing against the rules about that ._.
OK, I just thought it was a bit scummy that you know who he is and that you know what he's doing and why he's not posting that's all. that to me says mafia. It just jumped up as a red flag. sorry.
I haven't got a clue whether he's scum or not, and I'll be investigating him just as much as the next guy. However, we do not discuss Mafia at any stage outside of the game thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression guys.
Thomas Jefferson (3) - FDR, Abraham Lincoln, Barrack Obama
Bill Clinton (2) - George Bush Sr., Thomas Jefferson
Teddy Roosevelt (1) -Ronald Reagan, John Adams
Nixon (1) -FDR, Teddy Roosevelt
FDR (0) -Thomas Jefferson
Not Voting
Bill Clinton, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan
I think thats all correct... Just a little break for you Georgey:p
Mafia Day Serial Killer? Sounds pretty ludicrous. Remember, Jefferson got his role changed. I doubt it would be to such an elaborate role. But defending and then killing/voting for Clinton seems odd as hell.
I'm more inclined to believe that he's just given up but I tend to give people too much credit. This just seems so obvious that I'm unsure what to do. Either way he's not helping at all.
Jefferson's role claim doesn't seem legit to me. I would imagine that even if he was a Mafia Serial Killer, it would have a different name in this game. Thoughts?
I don't buy it either but I'm unsure what to think cause I have no idea why he would act this way unless he really is a scum or has just given up trying.
I think our best option is to wait for Nixon's input. It should provide some more ideas and possibilities.
I have the right do enjoy a delicious dinner consisting of pizza and pizza. Pretty sure this is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Votecount
Thomas Jefferson (3) - FDR, Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama
Bill Clinton (2) - George Bush Sr., Thomas Jefferson
Teddy Roosevelt (1) -Ronald Reagan, John Adams
FDR (1) -Thomas Jefferson
Nixon (1) -FDR, Theodore Roosevelt
Not Voting
Bill Clinton, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy
Ha mine was better! It showed that Reagan is now not voting. WIN!:pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] George WashingtonI have the right do enjoy a delicious dinner consisting of pizza and pizza. Pretty sure this is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Votecount
Thomas Jefferson (3) - FDR, Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama
Bill Clinton (2) - George Bush Sr., Thomas Jefferson
Teddy Roosevelt (1) -Ronald Reagan, John Adams
FDR (1) -Thomas Jefferson
Nixon (1) -FDR, Theodore Roosevelt
Not Voting
Bill Clinton, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy
Close enough :monster:
NO FOOD FOR YOU
and yeah I don't buy the role claim at all. He's just trying to get any townies on him off making himself seem useful when in fact he has been nothing of the sort. that's just my thoughts.
Well I could have told you that I was a Mafioso with an Extra Gun, but that just sounds like I made it up.
My class has already started, so I've got to go.
Hopefully Nixon will have posted his thoughts when I get back in about 3 hours.
So why come out with this claim now?
If I don't do it now I can't revive Aeris :(
I'm sorry but Jefferson is just making me mad. He's not trying at all. come on guy atleast give us some insight into your thinking instead of cracking a joke every post. you aren't helping yourself at all.
Yeah, I should really do something seeing as I'm only tied for a lynch since Bill didn't vote.
I don't know for sure what you're trying to pull. If you're Mafia then you're doing a good job at distracting town, if you're Town, then I seriously think lynching you will help us win because right now you're sabotaging our chances at finding any scum. :frust:
I don't even know anymore. I'm just going to cast my vote until some divine being makes sense out of all of this.
##Vote: [M] Thomas Jefferson
Yes, but some people who are currently against you aren't voting for you yet. If your roleclaim was fake I think you should say right now, and if it wasn't then why did you just give up?(by roleclaim I mean that you are a mafia, not necessarily a mafia serial killer)
I'd love to vote for Jefferson but I think he's just a bad player. I still think Nixon is mafia. It doesn't take this long to recap and give your views. It's almost like he just wanted to jump in so people wouldn't think he was inactive and scum. I just don't know xD
Well maybe you should just pretend I don't exist!
I find it odd that the lack of evidence makes me scum. You could always look at it as the lack of evidence creates evidence itself. That's like saying everyone that is posting a decent amount is automatically a Townie. It just doesn't make sense. You seem too eager to jump to that conclusion that I am scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
There are other things that bug me about you, but trust me when I say it's not over the vote.
It really does take this long to read and properly reply if you aren't BSing the whole post. It doesn't help that we keep posting :|
Don't wait for a devine being.
I don't think Jeff is scum. I think Jeff is tired of playing and giving up. If he really is what he says he is then at the end of the day Clinton should be shot. We could chance it to that if we wanted.
Teddy has been more inconsistent than Jefferson, and with all this going on he's been able to lay low. Nixon pulled the 'brb gonna go read the thread guys' and never come back trick. JFK hasn't ever voted and barely posted.
I'm going to stick with Teddy because that's my gut feeling. Feel free to question Jefferson if you want but don't forget about others.
##Vote: Teddy
Yes, with this happening with thomas I think the mafia are all lying low, and Nixon may be one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
Go Nixon :kaocheer:
To be honest, can I ask who you were trying to fool with that argument? -and after all of this you still haven't even answered anybody's questions yet!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Richard NixonI find it odd that the lack of evidence makes me scum. You could always look at it as the lack of evidence creates evidence itself. That's like saying everyone that is posting a decent amount is automatically a Townie. It just doesn't make sense. You seem too eager to jump to that conclusion that I am scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Theodore Roosevelt
There are other things that bug me about you, but trust me when I say it's not over the vote.
I was typing the above before Nixon made a post so I take that part back. :D
well what are your suspicions? you've hardly had any input on anything. you voted and vanished. Like I said earlier I think that you did that to get with your mafia friends to plan and see what happens. I'm not certain obviously but that's my feeling.
Nixon we'd like to hear those 'other things'. :D
Also dude you have to admit that making a post with nothing but a vote doesn't make you look innocent by any means!
I do find it odd that Nixon happened to come when he was mentioned, as if he was watching the game and then decided to jump at the best moment, but where is his long and logical post? I'll bet it's just coincidece however that he posted now.
You think he's employing the mafia lurker tactic? It's a good tactic.
Yes, that Nixon must be mafia! :shifty:
that's what I'm saying but you all keep jumping on me about it :(
Jump in at the best moment. Please. The right moment would have been way back to defend my name and not allow you guys to get more suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Abraham Lincoln
All in due time.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
Sounds more like you're stalling, Nixon, to me. ;(
Eh, now that I thought about it, that divine being is never going to come. I'm going to unvote Jeffersond and vote Nixon, give him a little more motivation if you know what I mean.
##Unvote: [M] Thomas Jefferson
##Vote: [M] Richard Nixon
Yeah, you've more than enough time. More than enough.
Ha. More than enough time. I wake up at 5 AM Pacific. I work a 10 hour job. You do the math.
Well, I'm off to bed. I'll understand if I'm dead, but I had better not see anything like HAY WHERE'S JEFFERSON LOOK HE CONVENIENTLY DISAPPEARED :mad2:
Omg do you all see how Jefferson all of a sudden leaves now that we are on to him? MASSIVE MAFIA!!!!11!!1
Ok then Nixon, I wasn't being a smart-ass when I said it was probably a coincidence.
I know you weren't. I still have the right to explain myself though.
I was talking about your first post after all of that time to the time of your most recent post. Just that span should have been sufficient enough for you to catch up on all of the suspicion you've racked up over the hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Richard Nixon
And by the way you're behaving, you're not helping yourself... you should say something or do something productive at least. :p
That might make sense if the day didn't end at 5:46PM and started at 7:55AM. Hence I couldn't post. But you'll just have to take my word that I have a job. So I guess my case doesn't stand up too well. I'll let you guys decide. :p
So why did you vote for me?
No real reason. Usually a Townie gets voted to be lynched on the 1st day. There isn't enough information to actually convict a person. So chances are a Townie is out.
No hard feelings. ;]
That's fair enough. So who besides me are you suspicious of? and why?
I'm going to sleep now. I'm not sure what to do with my vote so I'll keep it as it is. Hopefully I'll be able to play before the day ends!
Alright, more to come as I go, but let me say who my big three are as of now.
Reagen.
Teddy.
FDR.
I am without a doubt sure that either one or two of you is mafia, and you are employing the most succesful mafia tactic on EoFF. The loudmouth tactic. You jump on everything. You attack all. You never quiet down. And the town eats it up. I'm reading your posts carefully now, Jackson is not gonna have a John Quincy Adams take this poker table.
Now I am not saying that we need to kill you all, because that is simply destroying the town. I am saying to take what they say with a grain of salt, and never fear to question what anybody says. This is the game of lies and deciet.
People who haven't posted much (in danger of getting replaced if they don't step it up):
JFK - 1
W. - 2
John Adams - 6
Andrew Jackson - 6
Richard Nixon - 9
Of those I think JFK is a legit inactive. No help at all, but I don't think he's worth our effort until he gets replaced or shows up.
W. put up a random vote on someone who wasn't getting any votes at all. This could be trying to not be caught voting out the first townie. Looks bad.
Adams hasn't posted much but what he has posted has been thurough. So I'll leave him alone for now.
Nixon's story sounds ok but he still hasn't followed through with any of his promises to expand on his thoughts on the game. He doesn't need to go through the thread with a comb or quote a bunch of stuff but at least show that you are paying attention and trying to win.
Of all of these I am most suspicious of Jackson. He voted for Eisenhower when Clinton was well in the lead. So, voting for a 'suspicious' player while staying away from the bandwagon. He also pretty much ignored the Clinton bandwagon which would be concerning to me (and it was once I noticed it).
Teddy is still my suspect #1. However, Teddy is the top poster in this game. There's no way that guy will be able to keep it up so I'm confident he will go down eventually.
Also I haven't yet hit my quota of 26 vote changes.
##Unvote: Teddy
##Vote: Jackson
Bah. Jackson shows up as I'm posting that and makes me look foolish. Oh well, my intention was to get him out of hiding so I guess the goal was achieved.
Also, the loudmouth tactic is not the most successful. The semi-active tactic is. Which is what you are doing. Loudmouths always do themselves in in the end because they cannot keep up the consistency. Look at who the first person voted out was. The loudmouth. Posting = mafia, this is the basic rule that most use in EoFF mafia.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. The most active set of players always will have a mafia member. Thats their goal, to gain trust, and act as the town. Look at the past mafia games. Miriel and Del from mafia XI. The most active and both mafia. Morbo from mafia XII. Also very active and scum. While I agree that loudmouth is not a definate indication for mafia, but it is not for town either.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
Also this line is a killer.
Posting = mafia, this is the basic rule that most use in EoFF mafia.
That is so so so so so funny. You are using a very flawed form (In my humble opinion) of logic. Basically you are saying that the mafia must be inactive because EoFF thinks activity means mafia. So since you are active you must be town. No. That is not how the game works.
I didn't realize I made any promises. But I have done everything I said I was going to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
Regardless, I understand. I should be more worried about figuring out who is Mafia than defending myself. Distracting Townies is a good way to win I suppose.
Then tell us what you think, you seem to be avoiding that.
Not saying the mafia must be inactive. I am saying that people seem to equate activity with being scum. Simply posting a lot does not make you scum. It is the quality not the quantity of the posts that matter.
It's true that sometimes the mafia take over the town and lead them astray, and this is something to watch out for. But saying 'this person is smart he might be a scum trying to decieve the town' is not a healthy way of going about Day 2. It's always something to keep in mind, but to right away go after the people who are contributing the most could potentially lead to losing good players. Why not wait and see what happens with these people? Rather than call them out right away, try to bait them or see if they get investigated. The smart vocal players are the most likely to be investigated, after all. They are also the most likely to get killed.
He did just say he was going to "engage" in the conversation, which he did. However, everyone wants to hear more than what you've given us Nixon. Please elaborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Richard Nixon
I asked you to elaborate on what things made you iffy on Teddy and you said 'all in good time' or something like that. That's all I meant. Don't be ashamed if you don't make 50 line posts. We just ask that you post a little more reasoning behind your thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Richard Nixon
I think you're (and by you're I mean Roosevelt didn't notice all you guys posting there) overly concerned with me. I understand trying to get to see what I'm gonna say. But, now you're just trying to pick me apart. I feel like you're trying to get Townies to vote against me. I could be wrong. I could be right.
Or it could be that Taft and Roosevelt there are in this together. I mean this "motivation" Taft was talking about could just be a ploy to trip me up and make me look like a bad guy. But what do I know?
I for one am not trying to pick you apart. The concern started when you just voted without saying anything. You'll have to understand that people would react badly to that. People are just looking for ideas because there is a lot out there right now. We haven't really settled on anything. In terms of votes I'm probably not voting for you today. In fact I have to make my final vote in the next few minutes because I'll be asleep when this ends.
At least you are participating more than W. or JFK. Just try to keep up as best you can.
My main suspicions of you were your vote and leave then it seemed like you were stalling after saying how you would review and get back and things of that nature. I still have my doubts about you, but honestly your stock is rising in my book for whatever it's worth.
Complements don't work on me. You're one my list. But I have no actually proof that you are Mafia. I could point out that you backed off awfully quickly, but that might just be because you don't want people to get the wrong idea of you. ;]
But, I'm fairly sure if you aren't Mafia and you do get Axed, then the tide will turn against me. For it may look like that I set you up. Ho ho ho. Let the games begin.
Time for me to go. Gonna stick with my original feeling and go with Teddy. It's between him and Jefferson. Teddy for the reasons I have posted already. Jefferson because he said he didn't think Clinton was guilty yet his vote is on Clinton. Also the roleclaim. But I'm inclined to believe that he was just giving up and it might be another wasted lynch. I guess the town will decide.
##Unvote: Jackson
##Vote: Teddy
I only said I suspect you less not that I don't suspect you at all :p
Reagen is still my number one considering how aggressive he is at pointing things out about everyone else. I dunno just seems scummy to me.
First off Reagan, in the past games the target of the cops haven't been the loudmouths, in fact those tend to be the least likely to be investigated. Well at first anyway.
I’m not saying the more posts you have the more likely you’re scum. What I said was a loudmouth technique. You don’t have to have a massive amount of posts to make you a loudmouth. Quality vs quantity is right. Some loudmouths say more in their posts rather than many tiny posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
From the games I’ve played previously, Day 2 is the day to set up anything and everything. If you can get in the good graces of the town now you are set for a while. If you’re mafia, this means you’re more likely to be listened to. If you’re mafia, you’re more likely to get away with what you say in the future days. If you can’t start to make some judgments by day 2, you’re not paying attention.
This sent up a red flag for me. You are spaghetti plating good sir! And that is not the only time either! You just toss out a bunch of names and see who rises to defend themselves. Why should they? You just mentioned a bunch of people. It’s spaghetti plating, and makes me think you are not a good person Mr. Reagan.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ronald Reagan
Caught in the moment of the post. Forgot this part
##Vote: Ronald Reagen
I'm gonna try to post one more time tomorrow morning. I need some sleep.
Hope something magically unfolds in the middle of the night.
From the games I’ve played previously, Day 2 is the day to set up anything and everything. If you can get in the good graces of the town now you are set for a while. If you’re mafia, this means you’re more likely to be listened to. If you’re mafia, you’re more likely to get away with what you say in the future days. If you can’t start to make some judgments by day 2, you’re not paying attention.
The bold line has an error because Im a moron.
It should read
From the games I’ve played previously, Day 2 is the day to set up anything and everything. If you can get in the good graces of the town now you are set for a while. If you’re town, this means you’re more likely to be listened to. If you’re mafia, you’re more likely to get away with what you say in the future days. If you can’t start to make some judgments by day 2, you’re not paying attention.
I am sorry for the typo. It's 1:30 here. I'm sleepy.
I want to go to sleep but I'm afraid I'll be lynched in my sleep! Woe is me!
My vote will not be changing unless something else crops up. I don't think the town can accurately identify scum while Jefferson is confusing us. Hopefully some more discussion happens while I'm gone.
I fail to see the logic behind being suspected because of being an active poster. I post lots because I have a lot to share, and if I'm mafia because of that then that sucks. I also am certain of my vote for Jefferson now.
Alright, I'm up and at 'em at least for a bit! A lot has happened...
Welcome back to the game, Nixon. I hope you have a lot to share after you take your time to read through the thread.
Jefferson...Wow. Just, wow. I can't believe you. I'm starting to think you're some sort of jester role but we'll have to see, won't we ;)
Clinton, I can't believe you aren't defending yourself in the least! I've been ratting on you so much for your posting style and all you've done is continue on the way you have been. I almost want to give up chasing you but I just smell scum :( It's almost tragic how weak you appear to be. I bet you're probably a Vet player in disguise though :shifty:
Obama, good to see a bit more out of you! :)
I don't really understand the big fuss over Teddy. If anything we should worry more about Reagan. In eoff member mafia #2, a similar relationship occured, only it was Del Murder vs Neo Tifa. Del got everyone to lynch Neo Tifa and she turned out to be town, whereas Del turned out to be godfather. I'm starting to think Reagan is pulling similar :bou::bou::bou::bou: here, so I'm keeping my eye on him.
Teddy sounds more thoughtful than anything. That could be me missing out on something in the posts, but I'll need to see more action before I say anything more.
Still would like to hear more from George W. Whether he's at work all the time or whatever he does, he should at least tell the mods he needs a replacement if he can't play :( He's looking awfully suspicious.
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Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
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Originally Posted by [M] Thomas Jefferson
Posted in chronological order.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] George Bush Sr.
I don't know how much weight we can put in Jefferson's posts, but I don't think he's a Jester, or a Jester-like role. Still, he roleclaimed Mafia Serial Killer after saying his role isn't special, so I think he's just too much trouble for what he's worth. My vote stays.
I just don't like how he's purposefully acting stupid like that, because it seems to me like he knows something that will prevent him from lynchment.
Perhaps he kills the person who casts the lynching vote?
Or, as I said before with the whole jester role suggestion, like he's TRYING to get lynched :(
That is always a possibility. I thought of something along those lines too.
I guess we won't find out until he gets lynched, there's no way we can trust any role claims from him now.