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The mods SHOULDN'T have been able to tell us what a role would come up as. That would be confirming a role.
You threw my whole game off because here I was thinking there wouldn't be role variations. So i'm basing it off that not oh i'm going to throw it in there because I can.
And you made it another miller, only difference is if mafia win it wins too. Just one more condition to win.
A miller makes it pro mafia as well. They both are promafia so there is no neutral thing about it.
Millers are town-aligned.
Not at all. For example I can say "Theoretically, if there was a Saulus in this game, they would flip town."Quote:
Originally Posted by Freya
The Beloved Princess and the Miller are both pro-town. They are town roles that aid the mafia inadvertently. The Survivor is neutral and aids the mafia inadvertently. We have given the town roles to balance this out.Quote:
And you made it another miller, only difference is if mafia win it wins too. Just one more condition to win.
A miller makes it pro mafia as well. They both are promafia so there is no neutral thing about it.
But I guess people will complain about the set up when it is revealed and I'll have to spend some time debating that too. PHASE 4 update: IN PROGRESS!
They are town aligned but the miller flips up as guilty giving the mafia an advantage.
I will complain about it paul because you've made reasons for it to be complained about and the game isn't even finished.
*headdesk til bloody*
Mafia's really back :cry:
Yes, it gives the mafia an advantage. But - and I am not confirming they are in the game I am just using the most generic two town roles here :) - a doctor gives the town an advantage. So does the cop. We know this gives the mafia an advantage so we've tried to give the town advantages too.
While we're bickering, I blame Laddy. Don't ask me why. :colbert:
Yeah this is clearly all Laddy's fault. Let's lynch him IRL!
I don't see why DD & Psy making a variation on a role is such a big deal if you go put off or confused thats your fault! The survivor is a hindrance to the town winning the game so we lynched the survivor. Less bitching more mafioso finding people! Really such a big deal over nothing:tongue:
<3 Paul
HAY GAIZ I R TEH GUILTY SURVIVOR :wacky: KILL MEEEEE
I'm the Red Mage.
I'm immune to everything and automatically win.
##Vote: Laddy
Clearly, you're scum. :colbert:
Also, DD, That flavour text was just awesome. :love:
Oh, and guys? I told you so :p
:lol::D:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
Too bad I'm imuuuuuuuune!
##Pwnage: Laddy
I'm afraid he has pwned me. And everyone else. Wow, he's so awesome ;-;
Looks more like a rainbow mage to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Laddy
Not every person in the town has to be dead for the Mafia to win. Killing someone cause they're a hindrance so late in the game is not a wise decision!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shattered Dreamer
It would have been awesome to see the looks on all your faces when my name popped up as the winner rather than town or mafia :p
I don't think it is unfair to ask what a specific role would give you if you investigated it (assuming you are sane). I remember doing that once before in the game where I was Gunsmith.
Also what the smurf. The day starts 10 minutes after I go to bed and I finally come here after a long day at work to find it is already over! And it wasn't even to get a mafia either.
What can I say? Kaycee persisted, everyone followed. :p
Bandwagon alert:DQuote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
I have blamed you all for nothing. If my role comes back as "Cop who actually can't investigate anything" then I will blame some of the people in this room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Boko quotes The Godfather so he must be mafia! Lynch 'im!
Knowing you like I do, I am pretty sure I know what that is a reference to and it makes me go weak at the knees. :love:
EDIT: Yep, Del got it.
Laddy's a pimp. He never coulda outfought Lekana. But I didn't know until this day, that it was Del Murder all along.
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Originally Posted by Del Murder
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Del Murder --> His posts seems to sow discord among everyone and divert everyone attention's away. He is like the dirty Cloud who sneak behind Sephiroth's ass and backstab him with a rusty HIV infected blood stained sword.
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*pats mas-mas* I think it's believable. It's just hard to gather evidence from him cause he plays so well :)
See why I didn't want to roleclaim now AK. :roll2
Freya, miller IS town alligned, it is there for the same reason so the cop has to THINK about their results and make a conclusion based on them. When Psy and myself ran the game you had the miller role, the town won and you won. This is a game of logic and any balanced game has no roles that will break the game or instantly cause a side to win or not. Some roles like the doctor dare town and help the town. Some like vengeful townie are only useful if there is a lynch. Bomb is designed to make nightkills more risky. But the biggest thing you have having a problem with is that the mods can make up any roles they want to. Like the no vote vote for yourself rule. I think it is stupid. Am I complaining that it is in use? No, because I accept the fact that it's in place. It boils down to you were wrong, get over it. Do you see me ranting over laddy breaking a rule about masons? I got over it and moved to the next day. DD is not being a bad game mod, and I have pieced together enough about the setup now to say it looks very balanced for what it is trying to do.
The problem that the town has in this game is half of you are not thinking at all. If you think about another players actions for a few seconds, you can actually find the mafia members. I know I found a few and the mafia is going to win if you don't get your heads out of your egos. I want to win this so shape up. :colbert:
Edit: Given how lazy you can be based on this game, stop whining like babies that you are wrong, start thinking for a change and don't judge the entire setup until the game ends. I don't know the specifics, but I do know that this style of setup is almost impossible to implement without someone to complain the entire time.
Is there such thing as a setup that doesn't include people complaining? :)
Maybe you guys should just avoid each other. Play nice!
um, on a brighter note, how am I doing on my first play? xD
I still think I suck, though. :(
Me too. :(
You newbies are doing great, all of you! :)
And also I need to give many, many thanks to Psy. He's actually awesome and I wouldn't have been able to do anything without him. I know we haven't finished yet but I wanted to put it out that I'm very appreciative and thankful to have his help.
And back to the game, my set-up is not unfair in the slightest. Without revealing anything, you can see by the revealed roles now that you're quite clearly powerful, and it has nothing to do with the Mafia being overpowered because pretty much every incident costing the town is the town's fault. You haven't lost yet, just stop playing like OAPS and get your asses into gear.
(SPOILER)I still love you all though.
While not questioning the balance of the set up, I probably wouldn't have believed Celes either, since I've never heard or read anything about Survivors turning up guilty. I wouldn't have felt the need to ask the hosts to clarify anything, I'd assume she was lying, and I don't feel I have to read up on how they do things on Something Awful to be able to enjoy a game here. I suppose too many variables can be a con with host created roles and variations.
But that's me, I prefer things more basic.
That day was too fast :(
Yesterday night I had nothing to do because it was night, and then I come home this afternoon and it's night again!
Stupid timezones :mad:
We're getting clobbered :( isn't there usually at least one mafia caught by now??
Usually. We just suck. *quits mafia forever*
Awww DD you're alright yourself *ruffles hair*
Anyway with this Survivor thing, we're sorry for anyone who got confused by it. I honestly didn't know it'd be a contentious issue, we just assumed that everyone saw Survivor the way we did. It wasn't intended to be a "Heh let's smurf them over :smug:" thing. We all learned: If in doubt, ask, and hosts should not take things for granted. Now let's get back to pretend bickering!
No! :p
Sweet I got killed. THANKS MAFIA! I was hoping you would do that ;)
What is with all these crazy benches? :|
You know what? Even I don't know.
Just so you know, I believe this game has been a good experience and it could have gone either way. Though by the way the players are playing, it does seem the town have a good chance to blow it and have mafia win, which is good for those playing as the mafia. :P
Wouldn't it be funny if there was no Mafia in this game. :p
It would actually.
I think this is looking more & more likely by the day:tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by demondude55
1 Serial Killer. that would be great.
Serial Killers always seem to die early in the game, though.
I'm sure thats true in most games but given we've lynched only towns people nothing would surprise me.
I, for one, blame the Cult.
Join us. Join us. Join us. Join us. Join us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Still heartbroken that the cult in me and qwert's game got owned so hard. And yet, everybody was so obsessed with it that they forgot all about it and caused the first mafia victory.
Yeah, though it was funny that the serial killer, mafia AND the cult all targeted Levian the cop on night one.
Our poor cult was seriously unlucky though, they only got 1 actual recruit the entire game, then they died.
The roleclaims were perfect though in that game, I'm the serial killer can I please live and kill more people, and DD's famous bomb speech. Priceless. :p
##Vote: Town
COME ON START KICKING SOME BUTT NOW PLZ :nonono:
We may be finished very soon. A lot of interesting things and why the game went like it did can be explained then. :)
I had flavour prepared in case DD wasn't online, but he got here on time. I figure I may as well post it here anyway.
Goldenboko was dragged screaming to the gallows.
"You'll pay for the things you've done!" said Jiro, menacingly.
"I'm a cop! I'm a cop! You can't do this!" pleaded Goldenboko.
"You killed our cop, you murderer!" spat Shattered Dreamer.
"But I am a cop! Look at my badge!" our young chocobo begged. Del Murder strode over to him and plucked his badge from off his trembling chest.
"This says 'CARP' not 'COP'" he said with a chuckle. Goldenboko looked absolutely stunned.
"It says WHAT?!" he cried, and was no more.
Hmm Naive Cop that gets no result instead of ever result innocent. Am I about to blame DD & Psy's set up for the fact the game is practically over? Nah I stand by decision with or with my vote Boko would've got lynched.
A naive cop in our game would receive "Innocent" when investigating players.
or does it say trout? Cause I mean, seeing GB be :trout:'d would just be :chuckle: cause then :quina: would use a :pickle: to escape from :monster:'s :cookie: vault :bigsmile:
Fair trade off either way town fail:tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Hahahahaha. Carp.
No, I got innocent the last day remember?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shattered Dreamer
Anyway.
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Originally Posted by Shattered Dreamer
Fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demon Dude
My will was broken after my second "No Result." which made me basically give up. xD
Yeah, I can safely say lynching boko was one of the worst things the town did. I will make a whole list at the end of the game showing exactly why the town cocked up so much.
But who knows ... maybe they survived the night. :shifty:
I'll be very surprised if it does! If my inactive player theory turns out right at the end of the game I'm gonna be pissed off:tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by demondude55
Moral of the story? Don't lynch everyone who roleclaims.
Lesson for me? If you get roleblocked 3 times, consider it an omen to abandon your role.
Cool setup.
Bah, we learn that lesson like every other game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
Thats why I decided not to role claim unless in danger of being lynched:p Which in qwerty's case lead to his murder by the mafia this town was doomed the moment it lynched Laddy!
I'd say every other other game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪Bah, we learn that lesson like every other game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
FAIL.
Somebody get Psy on. :p
If you just need him to open the thread couldn't you just ask any staff member that was on? o.o
Lazy DD! Get this on with!
Looks like Boko really was copblocked.
Next stop: Jiro and I!
that gaybar role better not be in there Laddy.
What is...gay bar?
Hee Hee!
I could totally do gay bar. I was the best horny gay faith healer in the world.
Del, DD asked me in advanced if I wanted to use my power.
You should have used it!
I read through the mafia forum, Del you bad bad mofo:p You played this game so perfect! If I hadn't of voted to lynch Celes you probably wouldn't have figured me out for a little while longer at least. A lot to be learned about playing mafia from reading that mafia forum to be sure :bigsmile:
btw, leave no hard feelings from the thread. During mafia, srs business faces go on. :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shattered Dreamer
Decent play by you, hopefully you get a better role next time, I look forward to seeing you kickass:)
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Originally Posted by Sir Lancealot
I agree with Del that you should have used your power to commute. We could have had a different result have you done so!
I have to say had I got a more powerful role I'd guarantee I would've been wacked or lynch definitely by Day 3 at the latest. Having such a limited vote made me a more cautious player I mean the mafia didn't figure me out until I voted to lynch Celes:p But I'm sure the reason behind my non-voting for much of the game would've been discovered the Day after Celes's lynch anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenbokobtw, leave no hard feelings from the thread. During mafia, srs business faces go on. :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shattered Dreamer
Decent play by you, hopefully you get a better role next time, I look forward to seeing you kickass:)
I've learned a lot playing this game & from reading about what went on during it afterwards. I look forward to the next game here :bigsmile:
And I got to be involved in that thread, what an honour :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shattered Dreamer
Also this is a note to everyone who said they think they know how I act as mafia. I was mafia ONCE. I am always town for some reason, usually Vanilla too. And the one time I was mafia i went away for the weekend and my entire team died. :( But that was fun that game because we randomly shot the other mafia godfather and were laughing because it was really just a shot in the dark. :p
And this is a note to everyone who says I'm always mafia. I'm ALMOST always mafia. And when I'm not, I'm typically useful.
Yeah well I'm not even mostly mafia >:I
Yeah, but you always kill the most town and you get the fun roles EVERY TIME ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
It's my dream to get jester someday.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertysaurYeah, but you always kill the most town and you get the fun roles EVERY TIME ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
Yeah, all you got was...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪It's my dream to get jester someday.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertysaurYeah, but you always kill the most town and you get the fun roles EVERY TIME ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
Mafia Serial Killer
Morally Conscious Vigilante
Mafia mason
recruited mafia who was once a vengeful Townie
Wannabe mafia usurper
Cop
other stuff too!
Jester would be fun!
Or some other third party role...
I srsly wanted to play and be helpful this time, but Jesswee didn't tell me that there was a Mafia game going on.
;_;
>:[[[[[[[!
I can't wait for the next one though!
X3
Serial Killer. :evilking:Quote:
Originally Posted by Timekeeper
I swear qwerty is accountable for over half the posts in the game thread, even after he died! You spammer you :p
at 195 now :bigsmile: Almost to 200!
Oh yes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertysaurSerial Killer. :evilking:Quote:
Originally Posted by Timekeeper
I just made my 200th post in the game thread. :bigsmile:
Was that even necessary? xD
Yes. :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
Clearly.
Duh, do I have to spell it out for you. My role is spammy townie. I need a postcount higher than any other persons in the thread. IO get SUGAR if I do! :hyper: