I'm sure there are a lot of other good reasons to think so, but I am blind with internet rage right now. I'm done with my rant. Any questions ._.
I'm sure there are a lot of other good reasons to think so, but I am blind with internet rage right now. I'm done with my rant. Any questions ._.
If I didn't want you to make a quality post, I would have unvoted and voted for you by now. Think before you speak.
Hahaha yeah. If you're mafia the smart thing to do would be to deliver the lynching vote to a townie. HAHAHA
[M] Bahamut, I didn't expect this much time to formulate a reply so never bothered, but I'll get to it tomorrow. :)
Hey Rydia, hypothetically speaking, if there were cult in this game, would there only be a leader at first?
You say you were never against Ifrit and yet, you voted to lynch him. It did seem like an easy target for you because alot of people were ganging up on him at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cactuar
No, I'm telling you to hurry up because you aren't making sense. Why are you so annoyed that people aren't giving you time if you are wasting it by flaming us?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cactuar
I smurfing explained that read my goddamn posts. There was ONE OTHER VOTE OTHER THAN MY PREVIOUS VOTE AT THE TIME. It was IFRIT. To do what I had intended to do, which YES WAS TO PURPOSELY STACK MORE THAN ONE VOTE, I had to vote for IFRIT.
Oh for Crystals' sakes :mad2: If no one else is switching votes or an inactive's not saving the day in the next five posts, I'm going to lynch someone.
I'm wasting it by flaming you because as I hit "preview" as I type, I see posts by annoying little smurfers telling me to hurry up or they'll lynch me and I had stuff I smurfing wanted to say.
Hey. HEY. Is anyone seeing this crap? ANYONE? Please help me. Seriously.
Sounds like a contradiction, and there's an old saying, and it goes something like this: Cheaters never prosper. Sorry Cactuar.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleYou say you were never against Ifrit and yet, you voted to lynch him. It did seem like an easy target for you because alot of people were ganging up on him at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cactuar
##Unvote: Ramuh
##Vote: Cactuar
I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to sit up for the rest of this. I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm going to be very soon, just in case I disappear abruptly.
God, this has been a hectic Day One.
Oh wait no. Ifrit wasn't being attacked at the time you voted for him. You just threw that one on. We've gave you time to say what you've had to say. Just don't hit preview when you're typing like everyone else.
smurf it, Titan is the Psychologist. Have at him.
I regret that. I'm sorry town for outing the Psychologist. Really that was a bitchy thing for me to do. I'm sorry.
If you are pro-town as you said, then why would you reveal the psychologist? That's not right. I guess you're done for and we'll see what was up with you.
Gosh, you people post so fast.
I am dead and I'm supposed to shut up now :|
Holy :bou::bou::bou::bou: o_o
I guess I'll stay for the reveal, since I'm still here and all o.o
You should've kept calm while you were posting. I didn't like your bitchy attitude when you were making your last minute explanations, Cactuar.
Yes, we post fast. That is why I hit preview, so when people demand things of me I can include it in the post that I need TIME to make.
Shutting up forls now :|
Jesus everyone shut up and let me flavour.
I'm not sorry about that. Not one bit.
Cactuar has had it with everyone picking on him. He was just collecting his thoughts and everyone around was chanting and bugging him to post.
"BE QUIET AND LET ME THEN" Shouted the cactus. As his rage cooled, Titan caused an earthquake and cactuar got caught in it.
Cactuar was a Cheater! Yes that was an actual role that we made up for the game. Night 1 begins now, get your actions in quickly, you have 18 hours max for them! If I get all of them before then the day will start early.
Oh dear, we have a predicament. I don't actually think any of these guys is scum. Sorry if some think this isn't the best strategy, but I use the 'why would they do this if they were scum?' approach. I try to think like a mafia and how they would play this game best.
Ifrit - Why would he create a gimmick where he must post in rhyme knowing he'd have to keep it up all game? If he's smart enough to do this, he's smart enough to know the oddest person on day 1 usually gets the votes.
Bahamut - Why would he be taking such an active role against Ifrit if he was mafia? Ifrit's weird behavior would speak for itself. I think he is the most likely of the three though because going after Ifrit seems too obvious.
Cactuar - I don't think a mafia would roleclaim on day 1 if they could help it, and he didn't have much on him when he made it. Don't know if I believe the claim because we haven't even had a night phase yet.
This is why I voted Shiva, someone who is pretty much laying low, and I don't think some of her posts make that much sense. But it is too late to convince you guys otherwise.
I am tempted to end this with a vote for Bahamut, because if he is mafia that would clear up Shiva and Leviathan, two people I am iffy on.
Damn.
I was distracted by my dog and forgot to close the thread, oops.
As the sun rose after on the town of summons, it was still dark for some reason. Everyone started to panic when everyone noticed it was just Alexander's huge body blocking the sun. Apparently his big size caused him to be late. Then he got eaten by Atomos who then flew away never to be seen again.
Alexander was Vanilla Town
Day 2 starts now, 24 hours. 15 remain, 8 votes for a majority lynch
Oh.
So an inactive was killed which tells us nothing. Rydia, would you be able to tell us if Alexander died as part of the game or if it was due to inactivity?
At least all the remaining players have posted, as I've seen Odin post in the other thread. I hope he posts in this thread today.
Titan I have a question for you. If you are the Psychologist as Cactuar said (and we have no reason not to believe her as her role was revealed), then why would you be the deciding vote against her?
Nice to know I'm not the only one online.
What do you think of what happened yesterday, Siren?
Valefor, I voted for Cactuar mainly for being an ass telling us to shut the smurf up while s/he was making his/her explanations rather than just simply making the explanation. I originally didn't want to vote for Cactuar, but the attitude turned me off, and we didn't need any of that. Cactuar was also being stupid for telling us there is a Psychologist and later regretfully claimed I am that Psychologist. I want to say that I will not accept or deny Cactuar's claim to admitting that I am a Psychologist as we can't ever trust a Cheater. Have you noticed how Cactuar immediately named me as that Psychologist after I had casted the final vote? Well, there you go.
Though, enough about that, let's focus on today! I'm just glad that I'm still around after what happened on day 1. I feel as if I dodged a close one there!
The death was not from inactivity.
Man, killing an inactive, great plan on giving us nothing. :( Immediate thoughts on waking up are as follows: I dislike [M] Bahamut because he seemed so set on stringing up [M] Ifrit for his gimmick, [M] Valefor dislikes it when summons post too little for his bird brain, [M] Cactuar's death was detrimental for our town despite his temper, and now I'm wondering why we did not see a dead [M] Titan this morning. :\ He has to be on the block tonight if the mafia thought'd be great to kill the inactive [M] Alexander because who likes lose ends? I'll dig through yesterday and give more opinions soon.
I was very close to killing that dumb cactus myself, mind you.
I guess we don't really know what Cheater is because it is a made up role, but it did come up green, so I have to assume town-alligned, and for that I have to believe her that there is a Psychologist. However I do not believe you are it and I suspect she was trying to get you killed for voting her out. The fact that you weren't could indicate you are in fact a killer. :greenie: Then again, I don't know why mafia would want to kill the Psychologist since their power isn't useful against mafia.
[M] Carbuncle must be a saint for not settling that sudden death. :p Was sure hoping someone'd crack from that stalemate, and [M] Titan might not be looking too hot for doing the deed. Also worth looking into are the other people who voted on [M] Cactuar, because while he was begging for a rope, wouldn't be too easy to get a mafia like that? Another thing, I don't know what a Psychologist does, could someone explain? :(
I'm going through day 1 posts, and I came across this that I missed yesterday:
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
How dare you harp on me for harping on inactives when you yourself did the same thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Son, I am so disappoint on how things turned out. I was waiting to hear out [M] Cactaur more and then she just got lynched before we even got to the bottom of the Bahamut vs. Ifrit ordeal. I don't accept Irfit is scum because they're weird and annoying to some. These are not good enough reasons. There has to be some more conclusive evidence and a strange thing Ifrit said may point to it. Hello, Mafia I see you are trying to frame me by getting rid of my vote for Day 1. Quote coming up.
A Psycholigist can find cult members, much like a Cop finds mafia. At least that's my impression of it. Having a Psych would presume we have a cult...
I'm still in favor of lynching [M] Bahamut and then [M] Ifrit should the previous flip, but if anyone's going to offer more substantial options, I'm game. :) Also awesome TV show coming up and I can't miss this.
Thanks, [M] Valefor, I guess it was mentioned earlier, but I couldn't find a link in the mafia flash explaining the role, but that's what I'm going with then. Can Psychologists be turned cult, if [M] Titan wasn't killed, he could have been recruited?
No idea, I think we've only had a cult once, but I don't think we can rule that out.
Right now my vote is going to Leviathan.
a few minutes later...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
That was something tangible? That's a really weak reason to vote for someone, especially late in the day. You seem to be floating around (pun intended) without really contributing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathanin all honesty, so far, this is really all I have. I think it's enough for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
##Vote: Bahamut
Carbuncle, you're doing that as well. Stop fake voting Rydia and get down to business. But for now,
##Vote: Leviathan
...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
I was going to say that I found the quote fishy because I thought it said "you'll be my #1 target if I survive tonight." Nevermind. Doomtrain, what do you think about all this? You haven't spoken in awhile. Odin, what are your opinions?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
Not to mention that Bahamut said in his next post he meant to say Mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ValeforThat was something tangible? That's a really weak reason to vote for someone, especially late in the day. You seem to be floating around (pun intended) without really contributing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathanin all honesty, so far, this is really all I have. I think it's enough for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
##Vote: Bahamut
Yes, thank you. I meant to say that in my reply but I'm trying to keep many threads in my head at this point. I don't know what Bahamut is, but that was pretty clearly a gaff and not real evidence.
What do you mean by threads?
Why stop with them? Here some other people who haven't posted in a while:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Diablos (1 total post)
Anima (1 total post)
Phoenix (7 total posts)
And who Carby mentioned:
Odin (0 total posts)
Doomtrain (4 total posts)
So why did Carbuncle pick them in particular?
Sorry, I mean threads as in thoughts. Many thoughts going through my head and different scenarios. Not threads in the message board sense. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Siren
Thought that would be the case, but I just wanted to make sure.
Because I didn't remember who else was inactive. :p Diablos Phoenix Anima what are your thoughts?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ValeforWhy stop with them? Here some other people who haven't posted in a while:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Diablos (1 total post)
Anima (1 total post)
Phoenix (7 total posts)
And who Carby mentioned:
Odin (0 total posts)
Doomtrain (4 total posts)
So why did Carbuncle pick them in particular?
First order of business: I made a very lame post yesterday because I was on a serious time crunch. I'm sure this here post will make up for it.
Secondly...Two townies gone already?! Man..
Well, it's a new day. Let's get some scummies.
[M] Bahamut! I'm still lookin' at you, kid.
First of all, I'm still sticking with my post from yesterday, no matter how lame it was.
Yes, Bahamut, I see that you corrected yourself almost instantly, but that mistake shouldn't have happened. It looks a little fishy is all I'm saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathanin all honesty, so far, this is really all I have. I think it's enough for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
##Vote: Bahamut
Voting for people solely because they annoy you is mean :( but besides that, it's a careless move and can't afford to be making careless moves. We have a mafia and possibly even a cult or some other such third party to get rid of.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
You're essentially telling the town here that if Ifrit turns out to be mafia, then you're definitely town, and if Ifrit is lynched and turns out to be town, then you're definitely mafia. I see a potential problem here, does anyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
I already did.
@Valefor: as mentioned in my above post, i did see bahamut correct himself. my first instinct is to not trust anyone because that's how the lovely game of mafia works. the town's goal is to destroy the scum and survive, and because of that goal, everyone is guilty until proven innocent. that's just how it works.
because of that, my first thought on the post is "oh, he was just covering so he doesn't look suspicious." Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. The only way to find out is if his role is revealed somehow.
Just following my gut here is all.
Ok, let's assume Bahamut is mafia. Put yourself in his head and ask why he did what he did on day 1. Why would a mafia make themselves so visible and go after Ifrit so determined? Wouldn't that just spell his own doom, like it almost did and may do so today? I'd really like to know what you think his strategy was.
Because most ,if not all, of us wouldn't expect something like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Why is Chocobo so hellbent on defending Ifrit? This a questions I'm asking myself too because I find it weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Valefor: In reference to the quotes I posted where he says "if ifrit is lynched and flips town then I'm mafia. If Ifrit is lynched and flips mafia then I'm town," my gut is telling me either:
a) he's a townie who's completely and utterly without a shadow of a doubt certain that Ifrit is mafia.
b) he's a third party player who knows who's on what team. if Ifrit's on the mafia team and we all lynch Ifrit, then it will clear Bahamut's name if we follow his guidelines, and so the third party will live on and he will not be suspected...Unless of course he slips up somehow/a cop investigates and finds him to be guilty/a tracker follows him to the scene of crimes.
@carby: that is a little weird, isn't it?
What role would have that super powerful ability?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I hope Odin is replaced soon. Apart from the fact that we now know the psychologist, and the likely presence of a Cult, we haven't been given much else to go off from previous events. I am sticking my vote on an inactive for the time being.
##Vote: Anima
Unless one was created, none. I doubt the mods would create too many new roles. It would also be grossly overpowered if the player was town-aligned, and if he wasn't then we wouldn't want him to win. I don't think this is the case though.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ValeforWhat role would have that super powerful ability?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Looking over thread again.
There was a small hint that Titan is the psychologist before Cactuar revealed it. Titan reacted angrily when Cactuar pointed out that there was a psychologist.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
Why would the Cactuar lie about the psychologist when they didn't lie about being the Cheater? The only way this would work is if the Cheater is revealed town upon death, but is actually anti-town. Based on the Cheater's information we can gather that there is probably a psychologist, it's probably Titan and there is probably a Cult.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] TitanI can't believe you did that, you Cheater! *lifts a piece of earth and tosses it away rather angrily*Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cactuar
What are you talking about? I haven't joke voted since Day 1 and I have been down to business since Day 1. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
Back to Fatty and Fiery. Chocobo and Ifrit definitely have a connection to each other. Whether they are for the town remains to be seen, but Chocobo's defenses for Ifrit and them both voting the same leads me to believe this.
##Vote: Rydia
:)
Yo sorry I've been away. Something came up. Anyway, I'm going to catch up on what I've missed and post anything I come up with.
Firstly, I'm enjoying Ifrit's rhymes. It takes a lot of effort to post like that, whether it's a restriction or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
If he's not allowed to talk about his role yet, then I would like him to live long enough to give us something solid to work with. It is quite possible that he's one of the strongest townies we've got. So for now, he's not a major threat in my eyes.
Next section momentarily (I find it easier to plan my points separately, probably easier to read too)
The above post was made at 10:42pm (whatever timezone this account is in). So was the below post.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] TitanSounds like a contradiction, and there's an old saying, and it goes something like this: Cheaters never prosper. Sorry Cactuar.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleYou say you were never against Ifrit and yet, you voted to lynch him. It did seem like an easy target for you because alot of people were ganging up on him at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cactuar
##Unvote: Ramuh
##Vote: Cactuar
Which means:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cactuar
Yes I noticed how he posted at the exact same time as Titan. I don't think he would have had enough time to preview, see the vote and then out Titan as the psychologist just to lay heat on him. I'm undecided as to whether Titan actually is the psychologist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan
First of all, Cactuar was a townie. So outing another townie would draw the mafia's attention straight to that person and get them night killed. Here are some possible outcomes of last night:
- If Titan was protected, then we have to be dealing with two parties who can night kill, otherwise there wouldn't have been a death.
- There might be a bus driver, who decided to target Titan and Alexander.
- Titan is scum, and Cactuar outted him in the hope we'd be suspicious of him.
Regardless, I think we are actually dealing with a Cult. So it's on our psychologist, whoever that is, to find who it is and out him.
One more post coming~
Leviathan sums up my thoughts pretty much exactly. Voting for someone because they annoy you can get us in a lot of :bou::bou::bou::bou:, especially if Ifrit does have an important role.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] LeviathanVoting for people solely because they annoy you is mean :( but besides that, it's a careless move and can't afford to be making careless moves. We have a mafia and possibly even a cult or some other such third party to get rid of.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
You're essentially telling the town here that if Ifrit turns out to be mafia, then you're definitely town, and if Ifrit is lynched and turns out to be town, then you're definitely mafia. I see a potential problem here, does anyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
All of this "if he's town then I'll be next anyway" talk makes you reek of scum. Also:
Siren has it right. Nobody expects the really loud characters to be scum, particularly if they're posting and (apparently) trying to help catch scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenBecause most ,if not all, of us wouldn't expect something like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
So for now, Bahamut is on top of my list.
##Vote: [M] Bahamut
Okay this post just irks me. Especially the bit at the end, in brackets. "I'm vocal day 1 just like Ifrit so we're both not mafia". Uhuh.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Mafia usurper. They have access to the mafia forums, they're counted as a member of the mafia, but their goal is to get the godfather killed. The other mafia members don't know that they're a traitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ValeforWhat role would have that super powerful ability?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
All the mafia figured Titan might be protected and went for someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix
I don't think the usurper can see the Mafia forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Actually they can. I iknow this because: a) I played one in breakfast mafia, b) the roles flash says so :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenAll the mafia figured Titan might be protected and went for someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix
I don't think the usurper can see the Mafia forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I must of being thinking about the Final Fantasy mafia game.
Carbuncle stop voting for me :(
It's because he likes you, y'know? ;)
Ok, here I am.
I have been rather slack not only this evening, but yesterday also, so I'll have a read through on what's been going on.
I'll do my best to give you my opinion on those who I find to be sus, of course.
Hey guys do you know the time?
Of course you do, it's 20 past RHYME
There's just one thing that I'd like to know
And so I am about to ask someone: Chocobo
Yesterday at one point you voted Valefor
How do you feel now? Is he someone to ignore?
Please do.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
-Probably. I think there are two anti-town factions. Cult and Mafia or Serial Killer and Mafia because I think psychologist could be for a serial killer too.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix
-:confused: How could a bus driver target two people in one night?
-If Titan was scum, why wouldn't Cactuar mention that? They just said psychologist and psychologist doesn't necessarily mean Mafia though a Mafia psychologist could exist, but I think Cactuar would have said this if this were the case.
Rydia :mad2:
A Bus Driver switches the places of two people, Carbuncle.
Okay, for the first time I have an opportunity to make a good post.
What? Why would you want to end the day like this? It's much more beneficial for the town if we can deliberate longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Titan has been confirmed as a psychologist, so we aren't bothered about that, and you yourself said you were about to cause a lynch anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
I'm seeing a trend here of you dropping hints about Titan. Your point does not make sense because Titan would have been killed even if he was recruited. I find it odd how you are trying to taint Titan's reputation with invalid arguments.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Ok, I've left this rather late, haven't I? Hopefully that means I might be able to engage in some discussion for once, that'd be exciting.
Anyway, there's only really been one thing that has specifically caught my attention, and Phoenix has already beaten me to it:
It just really caught my attention, as you're needlessly covering yourself there, and I don't like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] PhoenixOkay this post just irks me. Especially the bit at the end, in brackets. "I'm vocal day 1 just like Ifrit so we're both not mafia". Uhuh.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
It seems like a mafian trying to put themselves on the same level as someone who is seen as being town (as it was speculated that if Ifrit really does have to rhyme every post, a role like that would probably be town).
I also noticed Chocobo being rather defensive of Ifrit, the subject was touched on briefly, but didn't really go under much scrutiny.
But my main point is still your post Ramuh, what's going on there?
Simple: I was concerned people would take our rhyming the wrong way. What I am trying to say is that what we were doing doesn't in any way point towards us being scum. I will admit I worded it poorly and it looks suspicious.
Yeah, it was worded rather badly, as I found it quite obvious that you were just playing along with his rhyming, thus making that part of your post needless covering...
Oh, and I just had a thought about Titan, do you think it possible that Cactuar discovered that someone else was the psychologist. Then rather than putting heat on the real psych, said that it was Titan to try and then get the mafia to kill Titan?
And then if they didn't kill Titan, could it then mean that Titan is scum himself?
You really have to think of every possibility, and Ramuh, you've just gone and said thatWhen Cactuar may or may not have been telling the truth here. Now I'm not trying to 'taint titan's reputation' this is purely speculation, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I just thought I'd throw it out there, because we really do have to think of every possibility.
[QUOTE='[M] Ramuh;2783739']
Titan has been confirmed as a psychologist, so we aren't bothered about that, and you yourself said you were about to cause a lynch anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
QUOTE]
I want to point out that I have not confirmed whether my possible role as a psychologist is true, so quit treating as if it's been confirmed. What we do know is that there could be a psychologist among us, or it's possible that the Cheater's claim might be entirely false. Once we do find out that there is a psychologist, then it is possible we could be dealing with a cult along with a mafia.
bah, my quoting didn't work, and I can't edit my post to fix it. :(
I agree. His role isn't confirmed. We should neither treat is as such, nor dismiss the possibility.
Trying to Kill Titan would have been silly because he would receive any protection the town could offer. I'm also getting the feeling that this game involves a Cult and a Serial Killer.
Okay whatever. :|
Wouldn't the game be too unbalanced if we had a Cult and a Serial Killer?
We've had a game with a Cult, Mafia and a serial killer before.
I stand corrected then. Let's not dismiss the possibility.
I don't think we have both a Cult and a Serial Killer. It's either we have a Cult, or we have a Serial Killer, or we have neither.
[M] Ramuh, it's great you point at me, since it gives me reason to throw dirt right back:
Yeah, yeah, kill more inactives who won't give us jack information, sounds great. I'm thinking your behaviors might need more scrutiny. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
If my behavior seems paranoid, it's cause it is, and that's my best answer for now when you question my motives. :(
It is better to apply pressure on an inactive than just let them hide. I don't necessarily intend to stick to that vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva[M] Ramuh, it's great you point at me, since it gives me reason to throw dirt right back:
Yeah, yeah, kill more inactives who won't give us jack information, sounds great. I'm thinking your behaviors might need more scrutiny. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
If my behavior seems paranoid, it's cause it is, and that's my best answer for now when you question my motives. :(
Okay I want to edit that last post because I said "dismiss the possibility" twice very close to each other. It looks bad :( *OCD attack*
Hi. So...what's going on?
Ok, I really have to sleep now, and as we do have to vote, I'm going to go with my original suspicion of Ramuh, as I still feel that comment you made, whether or not you worded it badly, seemed off.
The way you were almost adamant that Titan was the psych so you could throw blame on Shiva, also adds to it, but that could have been a mistake on your part if you overlooked Titan's initial response to Cactuar's claim.
Regardless, you seem slightly off in my eyes so I'm voting for you.
I may be on in time for the day to end, and if things have changed by then, obviously I'll rethink my vote, until then,
##Vote: Ramuh
So some of the best information we have to go on right now is what happened at the end of the day where we had the 3 way tie. Here's how the tie broke out and who voted for who:
Bahamut (2): Shiva, Leviathan
Ifrit (2): Bahamut, Cactuar
Cactuar (2): Chocobo, Ifrit
The following people posted in 'Sudden Death' (in this order):
Bahamut - I'd like to ask Bahamut why he let the Sudden Death play out rather than save himself by switching his vote to Cactuar.
Carbuncle
Cactuar (why didn't you save yourself by voting for one of the others? :()
Chocobo
Shiva
Titan - broke the tie with his post.
Valefor - technically my post didn't get off until after the day ended but I'll count it anyway.
Now, I'd like to think that if a mafia was up for lynch in a three way tie on day one, another mafia would save their butt. And if Bahamut was mafia, why wouldn't he save his ass right away? It's possible there is some deeper strategy here but it is too early to get into that right now. In a few days we'll have more evidence to shed some light on this.
Based on that evidence I have to assume right now that Bahamut isn't mafia. And I never really thought Ifirit was mafia. So that would mean it was a three way tie between three townies. The mafia would know this, and would have no reason to break it.
Too many people didn't vote yesterday. We need more votes! The day is already halfway over and we have like 3 total votes. As for my vote, it stays on Leviathan, because I still don't like his reasoning behind voting Bahamut.
I find the fact that I could be lynched based on an off statement I made troubling. To put things into perspective, all evidence on me is based on misreadings and my discrepancy in comparison to the rest of the town. My game has been poor thus far and it very well could lead to me being lynched, but I am throwing caution to the wind at this point.
Honestly, ask me and I will answer you to the best of my ability. I'm going back and looking through the thread to see what I can pull out.
Ramuh, you vote is currently on Anima. Can I ask why him rather than any of the other inactives? Odin for example hasn't even posted at all.
Odin promised activity, whereas I haven't heard a peep from Anima.
I thought you were going back and looking through the thread, Ramuh. That took 5 minutes?
Multi-tasking my friend.
Okay. I haven't found any groundbreaking contradictions but I have found a more worthy cause to think over.
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Hi DoomtrainQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
Aaw. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
Okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
:|Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] DoomtrainYou evil biceth! >:OQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
:eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
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Possibly worthless, but I don't think so. Doomtrain has been active and his post times indicate that he has been online through a variety of periods, indicating that the chance of him being busy is less likely. Doomtrain has failed to make any contribution, instead opting to pop up every now and then to avoid suspicion. Doomtrain has had plenty of time to read through the thread, yet he hasn't even replied yet.
This time I don't think it's arguable. This doesn't mean OMG DOOMTRAIN IS MAFIA, but his occasional appearances of no substance are strange. What do you think of that?
I think there may be something there. He certainly isn't helping, that's for sure.
But if he is mafia, just calling him out won't be enough. Votes speak louder than words in this game. I'm not telling you to vote for Doomtrain, but at least vote for somebody. Votes will get people talking and they are good evidence to use as the days go on and we get more information.
Whoops, sorry, I forgot you vote was on Anima. Maybe I'll go through todays posts and do a vote tally.
I would love to vote for Doomtrain right now, but I worry it would seem like I'm just trying to be in with the town.
Well screw that. I compiled that list so I can do whatever I want.
##Unvote: Anima.
##Vote: Doomtrain.
I hope we can get replacements though.
aha, never mind.
my vote still sticks.
Votecount
Leviathan (1) - Valefor
Anima (0) -Ramuh
Bahamut (1) - Phoenix
Ramuh (1) - Diablos
Doomtrain (1) - Ramuh
It does appear Doomtrain may not be contributing much, but appears to post only to appear not to be inactive. It seems that this could work to his advantage, but he seems to not contribute much to anything. Perhaps is it because he could really be scum and doing this on purpose to appear as a non-threatening townie? Who knows, so I'll put in my vote for him to give him reason to speak out.
##Vote: Doomtrain
That's too many appearances of appear in my post.
*appears to lift a part of the earth and smashes it to pieces*
I think the day should be extended because of the inactives imo.
Oh dear lord no. This game is long enough as it is. It does suck to have inactives, but you get that in any game.
Sorry that I wasn't active on day 1... I was a little busy and didn't get a chance to get on. :(
Anyways, Cactuar was being a total jerk to everyone, I totally would have voted him/her off... >:P
##vote: DoomtrainQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
-_-
I like to think I caused Doomtrain's downfall. :mwahaha:
I'm going to vote for Anima. How does everyone feel about that? :greenie:
## Vote: Anima
But I didn't do anything. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
That may be the issue.
Indeed activity was promised, so here it is.
For the most part I agree with you. Bahamut is not likely anti-town. However, 3 way tie between townies? Really? That is a very odd statement to make. I think it's fairly clear Bahamut wasn't mafia for not saving himself, but Ifirit's lack of posts means he may not have had a chance to otherwise. Yet you seem to state a rather certainty Ifirit isn't mafia, which is unsettling.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
If he is Mafia that makes it look like a connection between you two. If not, how exactly were you so certain with basically no evidence to support you?
Also, you come out now saying Bahamut is town after all that time going after him? It's like you actively spread suspicion, and then cleared tried clearing yourself of being scum by dissolving it all with this post?
I'd say perhaps you just realized the thing about the votes, but that would be odd. Bahamut, whom you've constantly talked about, was one of the three in a tie, you would think the Votes would be a major factor, and you would have paid attention earlier? How could you have missed that one?
And just how sure you can be sure Ifrit is town is highly unsettling as well, regardless of his role.
##vote Valefor
Leviathan (1) - Valefor
Anima (0) - Ramuh
Bahamut (1) - Phoenix
Ramuh (1) - Diablos
Doomtrain (3) - Ramuh, Titan, Anima
Anima (1) - Bahamut
Valefor (1) - Odin
Hey Doomtrain, what do you have to say about having the majority of the votes cast so far? :eek:
If part of Ifrits role is to rhyme, he probably isn't mafia, as mafia normally wouldn't get such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
I'm back guys, and I will first address all questions asked to me...
Well, that vote was kinda like a placeholder. I actually didn't notice that I had done that, though. I'm sorry, I guess I'm just a hypocrite(and I HATE hypocrites:p)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ValeforI'm going through day 1 posts, and I came across this that I missed yesterday:
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Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
How dare you harp on me for harping on inactives when you yourself did the same thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
I defended Ifrit because I don't believe him to be mafia, and I didn't see any reason that people were voting for him. It seemed to me like people were voting based solely on a possibility. If there had been evidence to back the possibility up, I may have, if I found the evidence to be good, voted for him instead of cactuar. As for me and Ifrit voting together, I don't know, maybe we just thought the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
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Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Why is Chocobo so hellbent on defending Ifrit? This a questions I'm asking myself too because I find it weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Hmm, I don't know. I still don't have a read on him. When I voted, as I just said above said, it was really just a place holder in case I couldn't think of another to vote. My vote was purely just looking at the list and picking a random name based on my super psychic abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
We can't take this as a fact. Although I agree that is probably the case, don't completely stop looking at Ifrit.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenIf part of Ifrits role is to rhyme, he probably isn't mafia, as mafia normally wouldn't get such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
But we don't know that for absolute certain. It's possible that it's an invented role that's pro-mafia, just to throw us off. I'm not saying that Ifrit is most definitely mafia, I'm just saying that all things are possible and we need to remember that.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenIf part of Ifrits role is to rhyme, he probably isn't mafia, as mafia normally wouldn't get such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
@Valefor: So is your vote for me simply because of my day 1 self-proclaimed lameness, or what? Have you even looked at my evidence?
I'm backing off of Bahamut due to the fact that he has just recently been replaced. But I'm asking that you all please keep my evidence in consideration.
Actually,
##unvote: Doomtrain
because if he WERE mafia, then he would be more intent in the game. As for who I vote for, I'm still undecided...
That's why I said if it's part of his role.
That was at Chocobo.
WTF that's ridiculous. I feel like punching Rydia just for this comment you put. So far I've learned a few things.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
- ChocoboxIfrit
- RamuhxIfrit
- DoomtrainxIfrit
- Doomtrain doesn't want to draw attention to themselves. But why?
- Ifrit wants the attention and is a total slut
- Ifrit is probably not a vanilla role
- The Cult is there probably
- Bahamut vs. Ifrit has still been puzzling me
- Everybody Hates Cactuar could be a show
- Bahamut's "lets vote for people who are annoying" thing is still fishy
- Inactivity doesn't always equal Mafia
- Activity doesn't always equal Town
Yeah but what I'm trying to say is, it's possible that it could also be a pro-mafia role that requires rhyming.
errr ah, okay, sorry about that :exdee: thought you were still talking to me
Carbuncle, how did you learn Ifrit was a total slut? :shifty:
Are you aware that mafia scum do usually work behind the scenes, so it's possible this is just a façade to fool us to ignore him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Anima
@Carby: Welcome to mafia 101. Those are essentially the basics of every game :cool:
I'm with Titan on this one. Having been a victim of such foul play, I speak from experience. (SPOILER)Also having played that way when I was mafia before but you don't need to know that :shifty: It's actually a pretty common mafia tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] TitanAre you aware that mafia scum do usually work behind the scenes, so it's possible this is just a façade to fool us to ignore him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Anima
I was just saying that I don't think they did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
ChobocoxIfrit the basic of every game according to you. Noted.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Why yes of course. There is always an obtuse Chocobo :( in every game as well as a rhyming Ifrit :D in every game. Always. You just usually can't see them. they're quite stealthy :|
@Siren: And I'm just saying you should probably be more open minded than that and be prepared for anything, because the mods set the rules, not us. You never really know mafia because the mods have the power to virtually do whatever they want.
In a Mafia game a long time ago, the Mafia Godfather would could in and go out. Hardly contributing to anything, but still making sure they atleast posted sometimes. Doomtrain is doing exactly that. The Godfather wanted to avoid saying something incriminating and did not want to draw attention to themselves.
Although Doomtrain is fishy I'd rather go after either Bahamut or Ifrit first because they are also fishy to me. This would also clear up some suspicions depending on what side they are on. decisions decisions
Then vote, Carbuncle. There's no point in not having a vote up at all times. :cool:
okay thanks for that broQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
now I feel guilty 'cause ##vote: Chocobo
There's a point to all of this stupid rhyming
You see, I get a reward for my expert timing
Every damn day I get a random power
And last night I got to be a cop for an hour
Guess who I investigated? That's right, Chocobo!
And she came up Guilty yo yo yo.
She seemed like she wanted to be the leader
So I checked her out, 'fore we come to need her
I doubt I'm naive, paranoid or insane
As I'm not a cop, and my powers just wane!
Sorry again chocobo.
but time for you to go.
On one hand, I dont' want to vote for Bahamut just yet because he's just been replaced and that'd be kind of cruel to get rid of the replacement just like that if we all voted for him. On the other hand, I stand by all of my evidence and I personally think it's enough for me to vote for him. :|
@Ifrit: Do you have a title for this role of yours?
Interesting, Ifrit. Chocobo, how do you plead?
Leviathan, if you want to vote for me, vote for me. Don't let outside influences... influence you. xD
Fine!
##vote: Doomtrain
This is sooo hard! I'm under so much pressure.
Melodramatic Townie(that's me!)
Thanks for agreeing with most of what I said and then voting for me you weirdo.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
Some of your information is incorrect. I never 'went after' Bahamut, and most of the time I have stated that I do not think he is mafia (and I don't talk about him 'constantly'). You should go back and read stuff so you can be clear, or maybe you're just fishing for reasons to vote for me.
The only time I contemplated voting Bahamut was in the post I made after the day had ended (I was typing it up as people were posting so I didn't know day ended). I stated that I did not think any of the people up for it were mafia, with reasons, but I also thought that the most likely person to be mafia of the 3 was Bahamut. Of the 3. I'd rather take a chance and vote for someone based on my interpretations than wait for a mafia to come in and vote someone who they know is a town.
Everything was happening fast and it didn't occur to me that Bahamut would have saved himself right when sudden death occured, so take that for what you will when you read that post.
I never said I was sure Ifrit isn't mafia, but I don't think he is at this time, and I've stated my reasons. If you don't want to go back and read my posts (I don't think you have anyway so why would you now), the reason is simple:
Who ever draws the most attention to themselves on day one will get the votes on day 1. This happens every single time.
Ifrit started posting in rhyme so people voted him.
Bahamut made a bunch of posts going after Ifrit for posting in rhyme so people voted him.
Cactuar made a role claim out of no where so people voted her.
See the pattern? That's why I don't think they are mafia, because the mafia wouldn't be stupid enough to do those things. I'm not saying the other two aren't mafia, but if they are, we'd find out eventually. Do you really think a guy who posts in rhyme would be able to last until the end of the game? And hell, that fool is entertaining. Why not keep him around? :D
Those are meant to be on seperate lines, hosts!
Please believe me, I won't edit my posts.
Wow. The thing about that fattie chocobo that was most incriminating was the fact that he defended Ifrit, but after this my mind is boggled. It could be a genius plot to clear Ifrit by outing his fellow mafia member ... possibly even a Mafia Usurper situation. I'm sticking with my vote on Doomtrain for a while to give Chocobo some time to respond.
Oh ho Ramuh, that's an interesting slip
It seems you know how Chocobo's gonna flip :greenie:
Ifrit's claim sounds plausible, and I have been suspicious of Chocobo when he went after me as an inactive and then told me to stop going after inactives.
Cactuar the confirmed town also suspected Chocobo.
##Unvote: Leviathan
##Vote: Chocobo
I agree. Also check out Anima quickly voting Doomtrain once you out Chocobo, completely ignoring the other stuff going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
Yep, I don't get the Anima jumping to Doomtrain thing, either.
Who hasn't voted yet? :mad2:
I'm not claiming I know. I do agree that Ifrit might be mafia. Besides, we don't even know for sure that his role does require rhyming.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Well Siren, we don't know anything for sure, except that Cactuar was a Cheater and Alexander was Vanilla. You have to weigh all the evidence and make your own judgements. That's how the game is played!
What are your instincts telling you?
Elaborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
Melodramatic townie or cop, this still doesn't explain your rhymes, Ifrit.
me :( I don't know who to vote for.
Ifrit, I find your roleclaim to be quite plausible. But I think I'll stick with my vote for Bahamut because of my evidence.
##Vote: Bahamut
Suppose you're right, and let's say I'm badQuote:
It could be a genius plot to clear Ifrit by outing his fellow mafia member ... possibly even a Mafia Usurper situation.
Why would you post this now, that's pretty mad
You don't try to dispute my claim, or give it much thought
Instead you go right into the fallout, like an ugly wart!
We don't know what Chocobo will be
Maybe he's cult! Or a serial killer, tee-hee!
You seem certain that mafia's his role
I'm not, and I want him to pay the toll.
@Siren: I made it perfectly clear that I wasn't calling Ifrit out as mafia. I was trying to tell you to keep an open mind about things just in case.
I don't know how you got a guilty reading from me... I don't know how I can prove myself, but I assure you, I am town. I do have a power role as well. Would you like me to roleclaim?
Hmm, maybe there is a Framer. If you had enough thought to investigate me, maybe a Framer had enough thought to frame me?
@Ifrit: You messed up your rhyming :|
Bahamut, you were after Ifrit for most of day 1. What do you think of his current claim?
Is Framer a mafia role? I don't think we've had that one.
A Cult member usually appears innocent upon investigation. Yes he could be a serial killer, but the chances of that are lower than the ones of him being mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
Yes. A framer can make someone appear guilty upon investigation, and tends to be mafia-aligned.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
@Chocobo: *Facepalm*
Announcing that you're a pro-town power role is never a good idea. Now you'll probably be a marfia target :(
We have in a game where I was mafia, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
**mafia.
my bad :exdee:
Votecount
Leviathan (0) -Valefor
Anima (1) -Ramuh, Bahamut
Bahamut (2) - Phoenix, Leviathan
Ramuh (1) - Diablos
Doomtrain (3) - Ramuh, Titan,Anima, Anima
Valefor (1) - Odin
Chocobo (2) - Ifrit, Valefor
Game was reopened at about 11PM EST. It is now about 5PM EST. ~6 hours left in the day. As you were then! :jess:
Honestly, you can claim if you think it would be goodQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
But I'm set on this course of action, understood?
I can't say for certain that a Framer's not in play
But the odds are poor, that's what I will say.
What the hell! I most certainly did notQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
My rhyming kicks ass, and your mom's hot.A member might, but the head guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramuh
I think he'd be guilty, but maybe I'm just high.
Not voting: Carbuncle, Chocobo, Siren, Shiva, Doomtrain
I think you're just high ... I think.
I am going to vote, but not just yet. There are still some questions I want to ask. Anima, why did you place your vote for Doomtrain?
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Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
do thought and wart rhyme? I don't think so but I could be wrong xD
Those two words sound exactly the same!
Maybe different accents are to blame?
Possible. :p
After this game is finished and won
I'll make a recording just for you, hon! ;)
That's kinky~ :jokey::jokey:
Well, I guess I'll claim...
I am an Overeager Vigilante
I kill every night, I can't choose not to kill. Night 1 I killed mostly off of intuition, admittedly not a great idea, but I wasn't really sure on anyone else.
The person I chose was Shiva. The reasons I killed Shiva was that she seemed to be saying nothing while also posting just enough to stay out of peoples minds, but not be considered inactive, and the intuition that I said. I don't know why it didn't go through, I could have been roleblocked, she could have been protected.
Can godfathers be killed via nighttime vigilante shots?
for the record, I'm not establishing Shiva as the godfather just yet. Merely conducting an "investigation" for this unique occurrence.
Why did you color the text for that yellow?
Is that's how it was in the Role PM, good fellow?
Orange is the usual color of the vig
So forgive me for asking, I feel like a fig!
there's one of these in every game :greenie:
While the role color really isn't that big of a deal...Ifrit's right in that vigilantes tend to be orange. Doctors tend to be yellow, I believe.
Or was it white? Meh, I dunno. Largely insignificant like I said :exdee:
Well, I had deleted my role pm, so I forgot it, but I thought it was Yellow? What's yellow then?
I doubt Shiva was protected unless she is the doctor herself.
There could be a lot of weird stuff going on here.
Are we sure this isn't Del's mindsmurf setup? :|
Del Murder signed up for the game.
Oh, right. I was just being silly anyway :p
Sorry, I missed this, please don't be mad!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
In order to get a power, there's rhyming to be had.
It's what I've been told I have to do every day
Else at night I'll have no action to play.
So right now if we believe both Ifrit and Chocobo we need to explain the following things:
Why did Chocobo come up guilty?
Why wasn't Shiva killed?
Obviously to believe them both is asking a lot already. :p