guys Im getting sleepy, so if you have anything you want me to hear please say it. Votecount plz.
guys Im getting sleepy, so if you have anything you want me to hear please say it. Votecount plz.
I am inclined to believe Mao's story. Even if it's... sad.. xD
I think his slip-up was something I'd expect from someone who hasn't played this game before.
I find the aggressiveness toward Mao rather scummy, Catherine. Yes it was silly of him to mention cops so quickly, but it was an amateur mistake.
#vote:Catherine
I dont like cathy or humbaba, but of the two I like hamurabi less.
sorry budy.
I am literally about to crash, so night i think
##Unvote: alex
##Vote: hanibal.
thanks shogun
Mao, not to be rude but you don't seem to be the brightest here. I don't think you're scummy, just stupid. There was no point into roleclaiming this early. You didn't have votes on you, you didn't even really have suspicion on you besides "hey why are you calling cops out?". I wasn't pushing for you to roleclaim. I was just curious as to why you brought attention to something that didn't need it. And now this whole thing has become a distraction from anything else going on. Which will probably be the downfall of the day and our downfall as town. So if you are in fact a miller, I apologize for getting you to roleclaim. If you're not! Well then i'm not sorry!
I'm more inclined to believe you are telling the truth just because you don't seem to know what you're doing. Unless you do and are faking this all to distract us! :monster: But I am leaning to the former rather than the latter.
Oh snap! Ha, I didn't intend to be aggressive. I was just posting my thoughts from what was happening in the day. He just happened to continue making me raise an eyebrow. I understand how I could have come off that way.
ok cathy.
Like I think I said earlier. Ive been high since about 5. not stupid, not first time.
But I need to sleep now so nighty.
Hope to see you all in the morning.
##vote: Catherine the Great
Mao's being an annoying little douchebaggington but that doesn't mean he's a bad guy. Bad guys can't afford to be stupid and annoying.
Why exactly are you taking after him so hard Cat? Hmm?
I do find that Hannibal popping and voting for Mao is odd. I mean, if you've been paying attention to this thread, you'll already know that Mao is not playing well. It seemed like he was just popping to get a vote off so he wasn't seen as an inactive and killed off that way. There wasn't much reason given to why they did this.
I don't know how much time is left in the day but i'm going to put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: Hannibal
Wow. Paying attention much people? lol
I think the day ends in 17 minutes. I can see your reasoning about Hannibal. So I guess he has about 16 minutes to change my mind.
##UNVOTE: HannibalHow did this become a bandwagon? Suspicious.
Where's the mod when we need a vote count?
When I said I had an idea, I meant a really, super, gigantically bad idea. I voted Hannibal because it was a vote NOT for Mao.
##VOTE: Alexander the GreatI would rather lynch an inactive instead of lynching a guy I used in a bad theory.
I think lynching an inactive is a cop-out. =P
I didn't even see your vote, Shaka. :roll2
I looked at the votes now, I didn't put down the unvotes though.
Catherine the great (2) - Toku, Ghandi
Hannibal (2) Mao, Catherine
Mao (1) - Hannibal
Queen Elizabeth (1) - Joan
Alex (1) - Shaka
So i'm tied right now to be lynched. EEk
I'd throw a vote at Hannibal but I would be so pissed at myself if Mao and Cat were mafia together. I don't wanna get played!
I agree it is a cop-out, but what do you want me to do? I will stand by my vote if you like, Gandhi.##VOTE: Hannibal
##UNVOTE: Alexander##VOTE: Hannibal
Wow you're vote-hoppin' like a kangaroo prostitute in a croc pit.
And no, I don't know wtf that means, but it I do find it Zulu's behavoir a bit odd.
Vote-hopping, yes, if that you mean I am doing what you asked by changing my vote once. You see that extra post is to do it legitly because I have rules by which I need to abide.
I... shaka... what? o_O
That made me actually laugh fairly hard. Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghandi
Hey guys. There hasnt been a post in like seven hours, anybody want to add anything?
Day 2 Ended. Woo!
[M] Hannibal was riding on his little elephant, just hanging out and stuff. Everyone ran up to him shouting, "You're scum!" Hannibal was surprised to hears such allegations, but even more surprised when Trumpy, his best friend and prized elephant, ate him.
Hannibal was a Vengeful Townie played by Melissaur. Thanks for playing. Night 2 begins now and will last 12 hours. Hannibal needs to send me his vengeance kill too.
Mansa Musa was walking his beloved camels down the streets of Timbuktu. He opened a scholarly book of his and noticed a note pop out of it: "Bang" it said. Mansa was confused. Suddenly, he exploded, with him and his camels out of sight.
Mansa Musa was the Doctor played by fire_of_avalon. Thanks for playing! Day 3 starts now and will end in about 12 hours.
Shaka was acting extremely weirdly yesterday at the end of the lynch, changing votes rapidly and then casting the lynching vote on a townie. I appreciate I also voted for that townie, although as I had two votes I was backed into a corner and as I know 100% I'm not scum, and didn't know about Hannibal, rather him than me. I don't know what on earth Shaka was playing at though.
##vote: Shaka
If you can justify your voting actions yesterday then I'd be happy to reconsider my vote but right now I think you're our best lead.
Someone else on my radar is Gandhi. It was a bit strange that he came in and voted for me with practically the same reason Tokugawa did just moments later. A question for Gandhi, how is questioning someone and pressing them suspicious? Or rather how are we meant to find out more about people's motivations without interacting with them? This isn't meant to be flippant or sarcastic. I'm just genuinely interested in what your motivation for that vote was, it struck me as slightly odd and I'd like clarification.
That sucks.
I can agree about ghandi being suspicious, but at the momentI really don't trust anyone so...
Grilling someone else diverts suspicion onto that person, whether they're guilty or not. It's something a Mafia member might do. And frankly there wasn't a whole lot to go on at that point. I was going to switch to Shaka near the end but it was too late, Hannibal was doomed and switching votes late could have been deemed suspicious. I'm voting for Shaka now for basically the same exact reasons as Cat.
##vote: Shaka Zulu
That was quick
2 - [M] Shaka Zulu - [M] Catherine the Great, [M] Gandhi
I can understand your reasoning a bit better now Gandhi and I can respect your decision. I do disagree with grilling itself being suspicious though, I think it's worth looking at why someone has taken an action rather than the action itself if that makes sense. I am probably going to be grilling people in the future, if I think the situation calls for it. It's just how I like to play this game I suppose!
I've noticed that these 12-hour days are preventing some people from being able to play, so all days will be 24 hours from now on. Woo!
Wait, isn't Hannibal supposed to get a kill as well? Vengeful townies take someone with them when they die don't they?
What's going on?
he killed musa.
im guessing. the mafia might not have killed last night.
Yes, I do find that quite odd that we only had one kill last night when we should probably have two. However, I think this could be a good thing when you think about it. Why did we have a single kill? Could it be that the mafia may have been kept silent and the doctor's death was the vengeful townie's kill?
It looks like Mao and I are on the same page with this.
musa might have protected someone last night who was mafia target. or maybe musa protected hannahs target
It is also possible that we have a roleblocker who is also town aligned.
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Originally Posted by [M] Shaka Zulu
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Originally Posted by [M] Gandhi
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Originally Posted by [M] Gandhi
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Originally Posted by [M] Shaka Zulu
I am glad you can say I am a bad guy for not knowing it was a townie I was lynching, and also certify you yourself are 100% not scum. I wonder how that works?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
My only excuse is that it was late, the day was supposed to end, and I am not going to sit there and stall if other people have also expressed a desire to lynch Hannibal. I was going to do it originally, and, as stated earlier, there was still no evidence to work on.
The night kill is a strange result when there should have been two. Is there not a "twilight" time between day and night where Hannibal's kill should have occurred?
Clearly he either tried to kill the doctor or the doctor's ward, and his kill or the mafia's was blocked. A far-fetched theory is that someone is bulletproof and made us a happier town for it.
Oh yeah, a bulletproof townie could also explain why there was only a single kill last night. I don't know if we'll ever figure this out unless someone roleclaims bulletproof, then we would know for sure.
Who is suspicious today? Shaka Zulu, Gandhi, Mao, and Catherine, if we are all being honest.
Funny, the same thing crossed my mind, the only thing I can think of is if some Mafia Ninja killed Hannibal, as to whom ever it was that was questioning my innocence, I stated to the host that I would not be a full time player as I am busy alot with work, I came home yesterday and felt really ill so went straight to bed followed by work the next day.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tokugawa Ieyasu
As to the whole Cop/no cop thing, I doubt there would be the role of Doctor without being the roll of Cop so I think there would be a Cop among us. As for my suspicions I think Cat is acting pretty scummy, Hard questioning of Mao, it could be a Mafia ploy, having a Mafia sacrifice themselves by acting stupid would have vindicated Cat by her in most peoples eyes, if you remember last Mafia there were some Mafians that were acting a little silly (which led to their early demise), secondly you will notice that Cat has pointed fingers at alot of people, this is also a mafia tactic, its always been used in every game.
You will also notice how Ghandi voted for Cat yesterday and today Cat find's him suspicious, acting very scummy indeed, now, some people might say I'm acting scum like for casting my vote now then possibly not showing up again for the rest of the game, but if I get lynched then w/e that would prove my innocence and therefor have the finger firmly pointed at Cat, who I think could very well be scum.
My own suspect activity has been noted, but these other players have also made some interesting choices yesterday. Notably, Mao and Catherine both jumped on my vote for Hannibal for what reasons?
Gandhi's noting of the time is what originally made me realize I needed to withdraw my first Hannibal vote, lest we had hurried along the bandwagon Mao and Catherine made, but his own prodding is what also prompted me to say smurf it and be the hammer. That skinny Indian is going to be the albatross around my neck.
This was the vote count just after I withdrew my vote and put it on Alexander. Can we agree at least one mafia was a voter for either Catherine or Hannibal, including me?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
Looking at that, I must say it would be dumb for scum to mob up together. If Mao truly is scum, Catherine is clean, and vice versa.
The same goes for Tokugawa and Gandhi. I have not even considered Tokugawa yet, but maybe he bears looking at as well.
I do find it odd that Mao is being quiet today. Perhaps he has wisen up as to not make a fool of himself again like yesterday?
Again, if I am scum, that probably vindicates both Mao and Catherine, but says nothing of Tokugawa's and Gandhi's possible guilt. The best tactic scum have is to scatter their votes, and the only other person voting was Joan, who has so far stayed well out of my radar.
People are not Combustible Engines, so maybe he needed some time to cool off. I think I have shared all of my mental framework I currently have, but I would gladly weigh in on other's ideas.
GUYS GUYS GUYS. I dunno what happened, but I forgot to like, enact the vengence kill.
So uh... Sorry Mao Zedong, but you just gone and bit the bullet. Literally.
Mao Zedong was a Miller played by one Hypoallergenic Cactuar. THANKS FOR PLAYING. A'ight catch you cats on the flipside (good luck!)
I think we should also take a look at our non-voters. There's a very good chance mafia is among them.
Now, taking out the dead and those who voted, that leaves us with this list of non-voters, unless I am mistaken.
[M] Alexander the Great
[M] Genghis Khan
[M] Queen Elizabeth
[M] Queen Isabella
[M] Saladin
[M] Simon Bolivar
Oh, looks like Mao was that second kill. :lol:
Well, I guess we don't need to look into why there was a single kill last night then! We should proceed back to looking for the scums.
That narrows that down for me. It just slimlines my process.
##VOTE: Catherine
I'm Alexander the Great's replacement. I missed Day 2 completely because it was so quick! Sadly I need to go to sleep soon I have course work to do in the morning but before I go I'll read the thread & post my thoughts thus far.
Well, I think one of our non-voters should be looked into. I'm going to take a risk and vote for Alexander. He's the only one who has yet to show his face. Could possibly mean that he's active during night time along with his scum friends.
## Vote: Alexander the Great
While I agree there is one or more scum in the inactives, we have a 1 in 6 chance of getting scum there versus a 1 in 3 chance with our suspicious actives of me, Gandhi, and Catherine. Mathematics, something my civilization discovered before anyone else, supports this theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Joan of Arc
Oh, I didn't see you when I was making my post! However, I'm going to keep my vote because you could still have done something during the night with mafia despite missing the day.
Oops forgot to vote >.<
##Vote: Catherine the Great
Wouldn't there also be a 1 in 3 chance if there happened to be two scums within the inactives?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shaka ZuluWhile I agree there is one or more scum in the inactives, we have a 1 in 6 chance of getting scum there versus a 1 in 3 chance with our suspicious actives of me, Gandhi, and Catherine. Mathematics, something my civilization discovered before anyone else, supports this theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Joan of Arc
Loath though I am to admit it, that wench Queen Lizzy raises some interesting points, points indeed that I felt inclined to agree with, pointing fingers all around and casting suspicions upon another wench, THAT I can get onboard with.
And it appears I too have missed day 2, to much time at work not enough time to do anything else, but its snowing outside so I should be quite a bit more active now as I have a few days off of work :D
##Vote: Catherine the Great.
Catherine - One of the driving forces of conversation in this game. Not outwardly suspicious.
Gandhi - Day 2 suggested lynching Mao for spamming. Offers little to conversation except for casting random doubts on other players.
Genghis Khan - Random post Day 1, Day 2 says nobody talks but mao , tells mao to stop posting nonsense, tell Mao to stop posting crap & vote mansa. Mansa flips Doctor. potential scum?
Joan Of Arc - sporatic poster, talks alot without saying alot, scolds Mao for calling on cop to act. Don't think they are scum.
Elizabeth - Follows suit on Bolivar's vote post 2. Appears again day 3 casts suspicion on Gandhi & Catherine.
Isabella - Mostly inactive.
Saladin - Does not post till Day 2. Mostly inactive.
Shaka Zulu- Probably a very experienced player. Either Town leader taking charge or very smart scum hiding in plan sight.
Simon Bolivar - 1 post votes C the great, 2 post unvotes then votes Cleo. mostly inactive.
Tokugawa Ieyasu - posts just enough to keep his head above water.
Just a few notes on the remaining players in the game (with terrible grammer :p). Given that I'm going to bed very soon I'm going to vote in case in the morning I don't get a chance to check in.
##Vote: [M] Gandhi
Seriously nobody is going to offer up any conversation at all? Why am I trying to stay await a little longer then!?!?!
Alexander, I agree with you on many points you have made.
First of all, our inactives need to speak up. Yes, I'm calling you out.
We can't just start voting for them simply because they're inactive... We've already lost five townies and still haven't found a single scum yet. But they aren't helping our cause by being silent either. A mafia goon hasn't been killed once yet and the mafia is just slaying our town as we sit and watch it happen.
We need to look at the people who actually are active too. And to me the most suspicious people are Joan, Catherine and Shaka.
Joan and Catherine are suspicious simply because they are aggressive. But I don't think that aggression is enough to warrant me voting for them. The aggression is helping us much better than silence.
I have to go with ##vote: Shaka. You're example of 1 in 6 chance of killing scum by lynching an inactive vs. 1 in 3 lynching an active gives me the impression that you're trying to protect somebody. I expect the mafia is made up of 2 or 3 people. I'm leaning toward three, just because of the size of this game. And right now, I think the mafia is hiding while Shaka does the talking for them.
With so many town dead already it is extremely likely at this point that we are dealing with a very vocal mafia. Sadly up until this point town has made it very easy for them to do so with much of the early posts just being spam from Mao & then Mao being scolded for such.
One thing Mao was eluded too alot ie the cop I'll say one thing on the subject. I'm not asked for a role claim but if you are indeed out there you need to start pulling your weight since town has already lost it's Doctor & Governor.
Looks like 3 votes for Cat and 3 for Shaka at this point. Oh and one for me, cause Alex is a dork.
I've convinced myself somehow that Cat's innocent, so the group of three that voted for her, bang bang bang, would necessarily hold at least one nasty little mafia slimeball, by my reasoning. It's getting to the point that the mafia can afford to be a little more heavy handed in their votes, and with Shaka having 3 already, they'd almost be forced to step out of the shadows to save him. They've almost got the upper hand, one or two more votes without losing a mafia member and they'll be pretty comfortable. I'm assuming, like Takugawa, that there are probably 3 mafia members, at least 2 of which I believe are probably active. Given the awkward timing for the beginning of this game it makes sense for there to be a lot of silent players so I don't think that there are necessarily a bunch of mafia hiding in silence. The game's going to smoothly for the Mafia I have to think that they're playing a very active game here.
"so" smoothly
I'm confused on why I'm getting suspicion. Elizabeth had stated earlier (before the vengeance kill came into play) that I was suspicious because, to paraphrase I was "using a silly mafia teammate to try to look better." That way if Mao died I'd look town. Right? Then Shaka goes on to say that if Mao comes up Town, I'm scum. If Mao is scum, i'm scum. If Mao is town, I'm scum. So i'm thoroughly confused on these conflicting reasons why i'm scum. Could I please get some clarification on this? It almost seems that no matter what, I'm being targeted.
After the Miller revelation comes up, Elizabeth still comes in, contradicts what she said earlier and still votes me. Shaka and Elizabeth have votes on me at that point and Simon comes out of the blue and just says "yeah I agree with Lizzy". Simon has hardly posted at all and only pops in to vote.
I'm sorry but it would help me to understand if I could get some light on these votes.
3 - [M] Shaka Zulu - [M] Catherine the Great, [M] Gandhi, [M] Tokugawa Ieyasu
3 - [M] Catherine the Great - [M] Shaka Zulu, [M] Queen Elizabeth, [M] Simon Bolivar
1 - [M] Alexander the Great - [M] Joan of Arc
1 - [M] Gandhi - [M] Alexander the Great
I'm a little confused myself, but mostly because I seem to be missing much of this game. The good news is I will have more time now that I am off for the next three days, so maybe I can be active at the same time as the rest of you. I don't know why Alexander thinks I told Mao to vote for Mansa, all I did was ask him why he voted Mansa because I didn't see that Mansa had done anything skummy. It looks like Catherine and Shaka are pointing fingers at each other with the whole town taking sides. I'm not sure which one to believe.
How long do we have left?
About 17 hours.
Is that all you have to say Saladin? o.o
As I stated before, I have been quite busy recently, as I also stated Lizzy has pointed out some facts that I found myself agreeing with, and I think I shall just throw this out there I will do a roll claim, I don't have a power ability, I am a Misogynistic Townie which means I can only vote for women, which I feel should be substantiated by my actions (I.E. voting only for women, the comments about being slanderous to women in general) and you are right now the most suspicious woman hence why I am voting for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
Brining my absence into the light is a little pointless considering I have stated that I have been busy with work alot recently, its the simple truth.
Oh and 2 people have an opinion about you filpping scum is not a contridiction, everyone has their own opinion, and it was a theory, one that didn't bear fruit but all the other reasons have weight, just like I think you are the most suspicious woman right now.
Believe my roll claim or not I am not bothered, its for you guys to weigh up the decision whether or not you think I am guilty for having to work.
Vice versa, it should be noted, means "the other way around". Were Mao scum, you would not be, Catherine.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
My idea being that the mafia is active and voting, then one of the voters on to top two lynch candidates is a scumbag. That would include you, me, Gandhi, and Tokugawa.
If it sounds like my reasoning has been lightyears ahead of everyone else, it is because yes, it has been. One of Gandhi's more recent posts seems to suggest he has finally caught up, but what about the rest of you?
Sorry, were Mathematics not your strong point? If mafia are both active and inactive, there is a higher chance of finding one in the small number of actives versus inactives.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tokugawa Ieyasu
Oh and I can prove I am Misogynistic Townie a by voting for a male, then when a mod does a vote count you will see that my vote will not be counted I think that should be proof enough that my role claim is fact.
Same goes for you, Joan: keep up. There is at least one in each group of inactive and active, and I could not tell you where a third mafia would be, but they need not be in the inactive group simply because you want them to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Joan of ArcWouldn't there also be a 1 in 3 chance if there happened to be two scums within the inactives?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shaka ZuluWhile I agree there is one or more scum in the inactives, we have a 1 in 6 chance of getting scum there versus a 1 in 3 chance with our suspicious actives of me, Gandhi, and Catherine. Mathematics, something my civilization discovered before anyone else, supports this theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Joan of Arc
I think it will be proof you are a misogynist, yes, but that does not guarantee your color, Simon. Pretty hefty claim that being a woman-hater would also clear your name.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Simon Bolivar
This just reinforces my point that you're hiding people, especially since the other people I am suspicious of are in the group of people you are defending.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shaka ZuluSorry, were Mathematics not your strong point? If mafia are both active and inactive, there is a higher chance of finding one in the small number of actives versus inactives.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tokugawa Ieyasu
Where, seriously, are my line breaks going? It only gets worse when I can only post two sentences at a time.
I will be going to sleep now, will post more tomorrow if anyone starts "questioning" my posts and I'm not here to answer them, its cause I'm sleeping lol.
Tokugawa, of course there are inactive scum. There may be one, two, or even three mafia all being inactive.
Are you honestly going to tell me, Tokugawa, that you can throw out my points and squarely say you need to lynch me first because you think there is an inactive scum and I am preventing that?
Please, by all means, name your suspects. I am sure we are all listening with bated breath.
Like I said, I imagine you're simply the mafia spokesperson. If you're gone, the others are going to have to speak up.
Simon's roleclaim is sketchy... But I'll buy it. For now at least...
Elizabeth and Saladin have barely spoken at all. That in and of itself is scummy. And if my suspicion that you are speaking on their behalf is true, they wouldn't need to be speaking.
Of all the other people left, Joan is the least suspicious to me. She has been vocal, yes, but she is doing just what townies do.
I will agree Elizabeth and Saladin do need to speak up because their lack of activity has been a major reason everyone is jumping at one another's throats. It could, by a long stretch, be a mafia tactic to have us eat ourselves and then come in later for clean up, but I am not sure how much I would buy of it.
I agree with you Tokugawa, I think Joan is the least suspcious to me. She doesn't rabble rouse, she doesn't ban wagon, and her posts are insightful. She points out that there is most likely scum hiding among the inactive, and I am inclined to agree with her. Saladin has said all of two things this entire game. He first posts to say he was sleeping and that is why he didn't post and his second post was just a couple of hours ago to find out how much time was left in the day. He offers no legitimate explanation for his absense and he doesn't try to contribute to the search at all. So I am guessing he is our 1 in 6 hiding in the shadows and silence.
##Vote: Saladin
Maybe it is the booze, but I am suddenly interested in what Isabella has to say. A deathmatch with Catherine can wait, if we all can agree discussion needs to happen, not rash and hateful voting.
##UNVOTE: Catherine
There are so many people flying under the radar without contributing, it is infuriating. Is there a playbook on mafiascum.net teaching people to act like rocks?
I'm with you Genghis. What we need right now are answers. Maybe people will start talking if we put enough pressure on them to do so. I'm still pretty sure that the mafia is hoping to have just one person to do the speaking for them.
##Unvote: Shaka
##Vote: Saladin
Look, guys, it is definitely, definitely, time I get going to bed. I have an hour or two before work when I will be free, so do me proud and come up with better theories.
If we can rock the mafia's plan of silence, they will crumble.
This is the one and only post I could find on Queen Isabella. She looked less suspicious to me that Saladen because she posted relatively early in the game and then disappaered which could mean something came up and she is unable to play. I heard a rumor that that mods were looking for replacements, so maybe she is one of the characters in need of a replacement. I am withholding judgement on her until I know more.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Queen Isabella
I think it's at least partially because some people who signed up were signing up for a January game that never happened and for whom staying involved in a February game is problematic. At least I hope that's the excuse, otherwise, yes, it's annoying that so many people are being boring. I'm trying to avoid voting for inactives just because that's no fun. It's mindless guessing. But another day or so of it and there won't be anyone left to vote for. The number that's most worrisome to me is the number of people not voting at all. If they are in fact townies that means we're almost out of time. Because once it gets down to them, it's basically game over.
Shaka is starting to make more sense. Specifically this,
As I was reading the thread I was thinking that exact thought before I read it from Shaka.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shaka ZuluI think it will be proof you are a misogynist, yes, but that does not guarantee your color, Simon. Pretty hefty claim that being a woman-hater would also clear your name.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Simon Bolivar
It seems more of now that it's just been finger pointing at each other. I'm going to unvote him and heading to bed myself. I'll look more into this in the morning but for now I don't think putting a knife at each others throats is a productive way to spend the rest of the day. We still have about 13 hours left from the time I post this. It seems a few people are just bandwagonning on Shaka and I. Which may very well be what mafia would want to accomplish. The most vocal town taking each other out rather than the actual threats. I'm not completely convinced Shaka is scot free but i'm less inclined than I was before.
We can always revisit anything said within the next 13 hours. No point in rushing a day when we can get more done.
##Unvote: Shaka
I don't like how Saladin has acted, as Ghengis and Toku pointed out, but I think we should give him a chance to retort the allegations. But as I said, we have about 13 hrs left still so maybe he'll pop back in here.
Previous games of Mafia, Dynasty Warriors: Lu Bei: a major driving force in the game, flips the Godfather... you claim that she is not outwardly suspicious when she has been there pointing fingers at alot of people, to me that says she is scum, and if she gets hung and flips Mafia you wouldn't be doing yourself any favours saying that she appears unsuspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Alexander The Great
As with me casting suspicions on Ghandi, atm I don't believe him to be scum, not yet at least, I believe you must have misunderstood my meaning when I mentioned his name in my previous post, I was merely pointing out the fact that she started casting suspicions on him after he voted for her which is a scummy tactic, and you have barely posted anything yourself exept to defend someone who at the time was joint in last place for being lynched... a very suspicious act if you ask me... pointing fingers at alot of people then defend only one... it stinks of a fellow Mafian trying to defend their friend.
As to me not being very active I have stated more then once I can't play very often as I have to much on my plate atm, pointing fingers at me for being inactive is like clutching at straws? I see someone acting scummy, post my thoughts on the matter and another person agree's with me *looks at simon* now I need to explain myself? I kind of thought I already did that with my original post.
At the end of the day if she flips scum then you will definitely be my next most suspicious person... if not, you will remain as most people on the list of my possible scum, but then there is only one person who I trust in this game and that is myself.
Elizabeth I would like take issue with a number of points you have made.
Firstly, I would very much appreciate it if in this mafia game and all other future mafia games, people stop using the logic of "Person Y did X and they were scum, so all people who do Y are scum." It's faulty logic. I can provide you with countless examples of someone being a driving force in the town who turned out to be town. I can also provide you with examples of scum members saying "In mafia game ABC, Joe the Dude did this and he is mafia". We have played a lot of mafia games now, it is likely that people of both affiliations have taken a variety of different actions, and you can use it to justify whatever you want. It is not constructive and I will hope any long time EoFF mafia players will agree with me on this one.
Secondly, I did not say Gandhi was suspicious. I said he was on my radar because I wanted further clarification on his vote for me. You will note that once he did so I did not pursue the matter further. I feel that you have twisted my words to suit your agenda and I am not grateful for this misrepresentation. I would like to note that Tokagawa also voted for me and I did not question him; you should note I questioned the why, not the what. However, supposing I had accused Gandhi. Are you saying that I cannot question or accuse anyone of being suspicious if they vote for me? Using your logic, a mafia member should vote for every single other player in the game and be above suspicion. I am sorry but I am going to question anyone who has acted suspiciously regardless if they have voted for me, and if that makes me suspicious to you then so be it, but I would have little time for any opinion based on this.
I also believe that pointing the finger at more than one person is a good tactic, and not a suspicious one. I would be more suspicious or perhaps, exasperated, at players who only concentrate on one player. Remember that, in all likelihood, there is more than one member of the mafia. Naturally it makes sense to therefore look at more than one person if you want to contribute to the town's success. I feel that to accuse someone of suspicion because of this is inherently flawed.
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As for my suspicions I think Cat is acting pretty scummy, Hard questioning of Mao, it could be a Mafia ploy, having a Mafia sacrifice themselves by acting stupid would have vindicated Cat by her in most peoples eyes
So let me clarify this. You put forward the theory that Mao was mafia and I was also mafia, sacrificing Mao would vindicate me. Therefore mafia voting for mafia team mates to vindicate themselves is a tactic they use. And now Mao has flipped town. Now what? And yet you - let's suppose you are right and you are indeed confirmed town - voting for me somehow proves I'm scum? I don't think this makes much sense. Are you saying town members only vote for the mafia and because a confirmed town votes for someone we should use that as a damning indictment? I honestly do not understand where you are coming from here.Quote:
You will also notice how Ghandi voted for Cat yesterday and today Cat find's him suspicious, acting very scummy indeed, now, some people might say I'm acting scum like for casting my vote now then possibly not showing up again for the rest of the game, but if I get lynched then w/e that would prove my innocence and therefor have the finger firmly pointed at Cat, who I think could very well be scum
I would like you to consider these points I have made. I would also like Simon who seemingly agrees with you to do the same. Thank you for your time.
I've read through the thread again & through the posts that have been made whilst I slept. Whilst some of the more active players have some major explaining to do, Saladin needs to be forced to talk. Gandhi should be known my suspicion on him remains vote change or not.
##Unvote: [M] Gandhi
##Vote: [M] Saladin
Simon's roleclaim also seems a bit off but he again need to offer more to the conversation
Sorry, going to bed now.
And now it appears Saladin decides to post, only to announce heading to bed. From the looks of it, he refuses to take any part in game. His few posts were all very short with no contents. This is making him look very bad, in my opinion. I do not think we will be able to get much out of Saladin if he decides to sleep the rest of the day. This is very suspicious.
##Unvote: Alexander the Great
##Vote: Saladin
So you're leaving without explaining yourself? Fantastic!
Allow me to quote all of Saladin's posts he had made so far...
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Originally Posted by [M] Saladin
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Originally Posted by [M] Saladin
Three posts, and each one add nothing to help us at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Saladin
Yup just 3 posts! If you are town Saladin you're certainly not helping our cause much
I slept more than planned, but am back to weigh in. The most immediate thing I can say is I am thankful Catherine is not merely out for blood because lynching me seems easy.
Isabella may be a busy person, but does she not have time to post even once more on Day 3? I may lead a busy life, but if I can make time to post, she can.
Elizabeth, you can be scum whether you are busy or not. The important thing is to listen to other's theories and poke holes in them whenever you can.
Weak theories mean the theories need examination, or the theorist needs examination. Saladin, I do not think you have time to withhold your thoughts and play a silent role.
First off, I really don't think that was what she was getting at, she makes an interesting point that Alex was saying your not acting scummy because you were a driving force in the game, kind of ironic that you twist her words to get the finger pointed away from you when you claim she did the same, the Mao = Guilty = You = Guilty was just one of the points that she made, Alex said you weren't doing anything suspicious and it seems both Lizzy and myself disagree, pointing fingers at alot of people is in your opinion a good way to play the game, I do not agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
You ask him to clarify this, then the next day you vote for him, how is that twisting your words, you can call it whatever you like but the fact remains that you voted for him the day after he voted for you, now seeing that you have been pointing your finger at alot of people I would think that was a scummy tactic, whether or not your agree is inconsequential, its my way of thinking. Having little time for it to me that says your trying to get others to come around to your way of thinking, trying to discard the fact.Quote:
Secondly, I did not say Gandhi was suspicious. I said he was on my radar because I wanted further clarification on his vote for me. You will note that once he did so I did not pursue the matter further. I feel that you have twisted my words to suit your agenda and I am not grateful for this misrepresentation. I would like to note that Tokagawa also voted for me and I did not question him; you should note I questioned the why, not the what. However, supposing I had accused Gandhi. Are you saying that I cannot question or accuse anyone of being suspicious if they vote for me? Using your logic, a mafia member should vote for every single other player in the game and be above suspicion. I am sorry but I am going to question anyone who has acted suspiciously regardless if they have voted for me, and if that makes me suspicious to you then so be it, but I would have little time for any opinion based on this.
Why should it matter if Lizzy or I go after one person at a time? the whole point of saying if I (or lizzy as the case is now) get hung and she (or I) flip innocent then that would add weight to our apparent shared beliefs that you could possibly be scum, if I am to win (with town) I can't afford to spend my time pointing my finger at every single person I think is suspicious, I need to get on the trail of the Mafia and get them hung, words are my only friend right now, I can only vote for women, and I am not Mafia so I can't afford to spend my time going after multiple people, one step at a time ya know, I go for people who I think are guilty and if I am wrong then I apologise, but I am not going to change my beliefs.Quote:
I also believe that pointing the finger at more than one person is a good tactic, and not a suspicious one. I would be more suspicious or perhaps, exasperated, at players who only concentrate on one player. Remember that, in all likelihood, there is more than one member of the mafia. Naturally it makes sense to therefore look at more than one person if you want to contribute to the town's success. I feel that to accuse someone of suspicion because of this is inherently flawed.
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As for my suspicions I think Cat is acting pretty scummy, Hard questioning of Mao, it could be a Mafia ploy, having a Mafia sacrifice themselves by acting stupid would have vindicated Cat by her in most peoples eyes
So let me clarify this. You put forward the theory that Mao was mafia and I was also mafia, sacrificing Mao would vindicate me. Therefore mafia voting for mafia team mates to vindicate themselves is a tactic they use. And now Mao has flipped town. Now what? And yet you - let's suppose you are right and you are indeed confirmed town - voting for me somehow proves I'm scum? I don't think this makes much sense. Are you saying town members only vote for the mafia and because a confirmed town votes for someone we should use that as a damning indictment? I honestly do not understand where you are coming from here.Quote:
You will also notice how Ghandi voted for Cat yesterday and today Cat find's him suspicious, acting very scummy indeed, now, some people might say I'm acting scum like for casting my vote now then possibly not showing up again for the rest of the game, but if I get lynched then w/e that would prove my innocence and therefor have the finger firmly pointed at Cat, who I think could very well be scum
I would like you to consider these points I have made. I would also like Simon who seemingly agrees with you to do the same. Thank you for your time.
I am out of time, so I must speed read what Simon just posted, vote, and be off. Crap.
##VOTE: Elizabeth
I like what Simon says, but I do not know how much I like his apparent teaming up with Elizabeth. How passionately are you in cahoots with her, Simon?
Not really bothered if lizzy dies, it just happens she is going after the person I am most suspicious of, thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shaka Zulu
Seeing as I can only vote for women my choices are limited to women who are acting scummy, going after someone doggedly is what I do... apparently its what lizzy does as well, who is to say she wont cast her eye on me after she is done with Cat? as she said she trusts no one but herself.
For now I'm happy enough to stick with my vote on Saladin but maybe my vote can be swayed if people would actually talk more :p
I would just like to say, I am here now. So far the day phases have all been at bad times for me, so I haven't been able to actually converse with you and help find the mafia scum. I'm sure I must seem very scummy, and I would agree that there is at least once scum who was hiding among the inactives. The most likely case for this would be Saladin, and he is certainly the most useless of the town, for posting absolutely nothing of help or interest. I'm not going to vote for him currently, however, because the amount of votes on him is already very large and I would hate to rush the day when I have only just arrived.
I am curious about Simon's role claim. Perhaps you could prove that for us by voting for a male player, so we could see that you are indeed at least misogynistic, though that does not prove your side in this game.
You should note Alex did not say I was not suspicious because I am apparently a driving force. Read the post again: They are two separate sentences. Compare "Bolivar loves to eat raisins. Not suspicious." and "Bolivar loves to eat raisins so he's not suspicious". If I twisted words, which I do not believe I did, please explain to me how Elizabeth's post is to be interpreted if not as I have done. All you have done is allege she has made an interesting point; you did not even go on to explain what the point was. Or maybe Liz could speak for herself as no doubt she knows her motivations better than either one of us does.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Simon Bolivar
I feel you have made a mistake here; I have never voted for Gandhi. A section of your case against me is based on a vote I did not actually make, I would appreciate it if you would reconsider that aspect of it. I can understand suspicion though; I would be suspicious of me too if I had voted for Gandhi and then said such a thing, so I don't hold that against you. :pQuote:
You ask him to clarify this, then the next day you vote for him
If you do not want to go after more than one person, this is your choice although as I said, it is exasperating. My view is that there are likely to be 3-5 mafia members. Focusing on one person, even assuming that I am correct in my assumptions, means 2-4 get a free pass for the day. If you wish to disagree on this point as a matter of mafia tactics, okay, you are free to play the game as you wish.Quote:
Why should it matter if Lizzy or I go after one person at a time? the whole point of saying if I (or lizzy as the case is now) get hung and she (or I) flip innocent then that would add weight to our apparent shared beliefs that you could possibly be scum, if I am to win (with town) I can't afford to spend my time pointing my finger at every single person I think is suspicious, I need to get on the trail of the Mafia and get them hung, words are my only friend right now, I can only vote for women, and I am not Mafia so I can't afford to spend my time going after multiple people, one step at a time ya know, I go for people who I think are guilty and if I am wrong then I apologise, but I am not going to change my beliefs.
You are missing the point of my post and I would like to explain it again so you understand. I was not commenting on what you and Lizzy specifically do, I was explaining why I act as I act. I have not voted for you for using your tactic, however mistaken I believe it may be. However, what you and Lizzy have done is to vote for me for - amongst other things - holding a different tactical view to your own. To me that is a nonsense... particularly when my tactic is the right one! Why, let me tell you all about Mafia XXXIII where Future President Mitt Romney used the tactic to great effect against the robot overlords ;)
Also I do not believe it would add any kind of weight to such a belief. Note that Mao, confirmed town, voted for Hannibal, confirmed town. Town votes for town. I appreciate you think I am scum, but what if I flip town? Does that mean you or Liz are mafia? Of course it wouldn't.
Apology accepted btw :aimkiss:
Also I am rather intrigued by your close association with Elizabeth, sharing her viewpoint to the letter and even seemingly speaking for her. I'm honestly surprised that one person holds the view about those tactics and indulging in such flawed logic, much less two of you. What's going on there? Are you piggybacking on someone else's ideas to blend in?
##vote: simon bolivar
Until I see him follow through on his claim, I think it's a bluff.
Trying to edit our posts, are we Catherine? You know that's against the rules of mafia. :kakapo:
Being a good girl is boring, Joan. That's why I ride with boys in cars and you're left at home with the voices in your head. :cool:
(Apologies, Jesus I did not remove anything; I only added something!)
yup editing is a no no but guilty it does not make somebody
We should be thankful that Jesus have decided to give us 24 hour days rather than 12 hours, so people like you can at least have some say rather than totally miss out because of timing issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Queen Isabella
Though, I want to make a comment about Simon's role. Roles that are limited by how they vote are very rarely mafia, and if Simon is true to his word that he can only vote for women, then natrually, he would be town-sided as opposed to mafia.
That's the point though, we don't know if Simon is true to his word in any way. Now, as far as I can recall, he really hasn't ever voted for any men, but that could just be a convenient coincidence. Also, even assuming that he really is misogynistic, that doesn't necessarily mean he's not mafia, does it?
People want me to back up my role claim thats fine by me:
##Unvote: Catherine the Great
##Vote: Ghandi
Please let this settle the matter now, I believe now is the appropriate time to ask for a vote count from a mod? =)
Of course it doesn't mean he's not mafia, but it's very rare to have a mafia role like this. I highly doubt that we have such a role on the mafia side in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Gandhi
How long now till the day ends?
3.5 hours left. Vote count when I cbf
Cmon Dak, how am I supposed to back up my roll claim if you don't do a count ; ;Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
4 - [M] Saladin - [M] Genghis Khan, Tokugawa Ieyasu, [M] Saladin, [M] Joan of Arc
1 - [M] Catherine the Great -[M] Shaka Zulu, [M] Queen Elizabeth,[M] Simon Bolivar
1 - [M] Shaka Zulu -[M] Catherine the Great, [M] Gandhi,[M] Tokugawa Ieyasu
1 - [M] Queen Elizabeth - [M] Shaka Zulu
1 - [M] Simon Bolivar - [M] Gandhi
0 - [M] Alexander the Great -[M] Joan of Arc
0 - [M] Gandhi -[M] Alexander the Great
You're lucky I'm in class and bored! :aimmad:
Evidence for all to see, I am the Misogynistic Townie =)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jesus
##Unvote: Ghandi
##Vote: Catherine the Great
I still maintain that Cat is the most suspicious female.
From that vote count Simon is lying unless Jiro made a mistake!
Also Catherine, cast your mind back to Dynasty Warrior's mafia where the mafia had a double voter on their side so this idea of "oh the mafia wouldn't have a role like that" goes out the window straight away
How did I make a mistake? You better back up dem words punk ass mothersmurfer :greenie:
No wait sorry I'm wrong I read Jiro's post again. Simon has indeed got this twist to his vote but not proof enough from past experience that he is innocent!
Apology accepted :aimkiss:
I read Gandhi's vote for Simon as Simon's vote for Gandhi sorry Jiro :bigsmile:
Honest mistake!
Also three hours to go folks :shobon:
Dak my man, your truly awesome xD :http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...jpg?1318992465Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
The people I'm least suspicious of right now are Joan, Simon and Isabella.
I don't find Simon because part of his role is confirmed, Isabella because she hasn't posted much, and I don't know why I trust Joan.
What exactly is your deal Saladin? I don't like the way you're behaving one bit!
4 - [M] Saladin - [M] Genghis Khan, Tokugawa Ieyasu, [M] Saladin, [M] Joan of Arc
1 - [M] Catherine the Great - [M] Shaka Zulu, [M] Simon Bolivar
1 - [M] Shaka Zulu - [M] Catherine the Great, [M] Gandhi, [M] Tokugawa Ieyasu
1 - [M] Queen Elizabeth - [M] Shaka Zulu
1 - [M] Simon Bolivar - [M] Gandhi
About 1 1/2 hours left.
Just trying to post what I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Alexander The Great
Wait a minute, it looks like Simon can't vote for women either. The vote count on Catherine is still one.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jesus
##Vote: Catherine the Great
Not that it matters.
Also, I think that the other voter for Catherine is Elizabeth, seeing as Shaka has a vote on Elizabeth...unless you are trying to indicate Shaka is the double voting Townie.
But you get obviously that your behaviour is very suspicious! So much so that i think you're looking to get lynched! May it not be on my head if that's the case.
##Unvote: [M] Saladin
As to not waste my vote, Queen Isabella the mostly inactive I grant my vote onto thee
##Vote: [M] Queen Isabella
3 - [M] Saladin - [M] Genghis Khan, Tokugawa Ieyasu [M] Joan of Arc
3 - [M] Catherine the Great - [M] Saladin, [M] Queen Elizabeth, [M] Simon Bolivar
1 - [M] Shaka Zulu - [M] Catherine the Great,
1 - [M] Queen Elizabeth - [M] Shaka Zulu
1 - [M] Simon Bolivar - [M] Gandhi
1 - [M] Queen Isabella - [M] Alexander the Great
Just over an hour left. I think that's right.
##vote: Saladin
Nothing personal but I know I'm not scum and while I think you're not, I don't know for sure what you are. So it's rather you than me and it's unfortunate that we've been put in this position. :monster:
By the way I unvoted Shaka a while ago so that votecount is inaccurate.
Let this not be taken as me defending you Catherine but I agree with you. But let it be known that if Saladin flips town you might make yourself prime suspect in the eyes of someQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
4 - [M] Saladin - [M] Genghis Khan, Tokugawa Ieyasu [M] Joan of Arc, [M] Catherine the Great
3 - [M] Catherine the Great - [M] Saladin, [M] Queen Elizabeth, [M] Simon Bolivar
1 - [M] Queen Elizabeth - [M] Shaka Zulu
1 - [M] Simon Bolivar - [M] Gandhi
1 - [M] Queen Isabella - [M] Alexander the Great
53 minutes.
Meh, even if I claimed, I'd die tonight.
I do not fear that. I'm just disappointed that it's come to this.
None of the votes against me have had any kind of compelling case behind them. Bolivar wouldn't even respond to me pointing out about his mistake about who voted for Gandhi and kept his vote on me. I imagine Saladin is only doing this to save himself, just as I am with my vote.
Honestly, I'm thinking that we should vote for Isabella right now.
Make it a good claim then Saladin but let it be known if you flip cop I may track you down & actually beat you with a wet fish
33 minutes.
No need to make a claim when you've said what I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Alexander The Great
If you're gonna claim cop you need to do better than that! Who did you investigate and what results did you get? If it sounds legit I'd be willing to consider Isabella.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SaladinNo need to make a claim when you've said what I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Alexander The Great
Oh my god you better be lying or I'll go to the nearest fish market, pick the biggest fish & hop on a plane to whereever you are & commit an assault worthy of Ripley's Believe It or Not! Seriously we can't lose Governor, Doctor & Cop
For some stupid reason I investigated Mao night 1 and got Guilty. Night 2 I investigated myself and got Innocent.
I think, however this plays out, whoever survives of the townies will have learned a lot. This is a very telling vote. Can't wait to see the result.
I have mixed feelings about Saladin, but luckily it doesn't matter what I think b/c he's gone either way.
Fachfish?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Alexander The Great
I can believe those choices, but what I don't get is why you didn't say anything about Mao - not even voting for him or questioning him. I think this is the first time he has been mentioned by you. :confused:
Oh this is almost like a repeat of Mao from the other day, trying to warn our cop. If Saladin does turn out cop, and I really hope he doesn't, but if that is the case when the day end, I must say, our cop is not exactly the best we have. I also hope that we have a second cop in the game.
If this is indeed his logic he cost town it's cop so BLAMMM! fish to face bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
Probably a stupid question but why would a cop investigate themselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Saladin
I was going to so today, but he died.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Catherine the Great
Sanity check.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Simon BolivarProbably a stupid question but why would a cop investigate themselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Saladin
8 minutes.
To test their sanity but most people do it night 1 not night 2Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Simon BolivarProbably a stupid question but why would a cop investigate themselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Saladin
Either it's that he chose to kept quiet or haven't had the time or clue to do anything. He is being mostly vague with his posts, we have no real idea what's going on.
Either way how this turns out, we need to really step our game up to finda nd discard the scums.
4 minutes.
##Unvote: Catherine the Great
##Vote: Queen Isabella
4 - [M] Saladin - [M] Genghis Khan, Tokugawa Ieyasu [M] Joan of Arc, [M] Catherine the Great
2 - [M] Catherine the Great - , [M] Queen Elizabeth, [M] Simon Bolivar
1 - [M] Queen Isabella - [M] Alexander the Great, [M] Saladin
1 - [M] Queen Elizabeth - [M] Shaka Zulu
1 - [M] Simon Bolivar - [M] Gandhi
1 - [M] Queen Isabella - [M] Alexander the Great
1 vote for Isabella, even if two voted for her. Is that correct?
Whoops, my mistake.
Day 3 over. Flavor coming up.
Times up... is he scum or not?!?
Saladin was patrolling the streets of Jerusalem for those pesky Crusaders, when he noticed something strange. He pulled out his scimitar and shouted, "Police, come out with your hands up!" The person went across the corner and stuck a watermelon down his throat, choking him.
[M] Saladin was a Cop played by Sir Lancealot. Thanks for playing! Night 3 starts now. Send me your night actions!
Joan of Arc was chilling around and stuff. Y'know, talking to God is hard work and these damned Frenchies don't know trout about war. Joan of Arc sat down to contemplate life. After this, a satellite fell on her head, cracking her skull.
Joan of Arc was a Priest played by Agent Proto. Thanks for playing!
Hey, you guys know what that means?
...Day 4 beings now and will last for 24 hours.
Wow, this has gone terribly. Saladin seemed so utterly scummy...
I'm going with Catherine the Great for today. I've been mildly suspicious of her basically since the game began, and it's either her or Khan or Ieyasu leading the way on that townie vote, and I trust Ieyasu pretty much so far and Khan is just slightly less suspicious than Cat. Now you can come along and give your big spiel about how you're innocent and point the finger at me for pointing a finger at you but there's probably not going to be anything that could change my mind this time. At some point I've gotta listen to my instincts. I will commend you on your way out though. I don't know how you kept us from going after you as long as you have. Well played.
##vote: Catherine the Great
I don't think there are any vanilla townies.Nah. I think you're town-aligned even if you are mistaken. If you want to ask me any questions about my behaviour to get a clearer idea then I'm welcome to chat it out with you, but it's your call. I have bigger fish to fry today.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Gandhi
Bolivar, Bolivar, Bolivar. I've been respectful to you so far. But you disrespected me yesterday. And now I am going to tear down your world.
I'm going to do this in three stages. A trilogy, if you will. Here's part 1. I'm going to gradually build up to a crescendo.
Your bogus smurfing roleclaim.
I don't doubt you can't vote for males. I don't give a trout. My question is this: Why smurfing claim at all if you are town? What possible benefit was there to doing that? You were under no pressure, nobody was going to lynch you, so why?
Let's be honest, your supposed role is worthless. Congratulations, all you achieved was narrowing down the mafia's suspects as to who the cop was. Bravo.
Yet if you were scum and had a vote restriction - and why not, I say. It's not usual but then since when is a misogynistic townie usual? - and could prove it then of course you would claim. You would do exactly what you did to try to prove yourself.
Summary: If you are town and have a vote restriction, it damages the town to claim. If you are scum and have a vote restriction, it helps you to claim to clear yourself.
Oh yeah, by the way. In regards to your "You voted for someone who voted for you therefore you are scum!" argument. ##vote: Simon Bolivar. Shove it up your god damn arse. I'm not going to let someone like you try to threaten me with "Omg ur suspicious!" nonsense. You know who I am. You wanted to pick a fight with me. Well here is your god damn fight. Can't handle it? Good.
Well i guess I better get things started! With so many townies now dead I'm going with the theory of scum in plain sight. Who do I feel fits this bill perfect? Shaka Zulu! Shaka did his best to establish himself in the role of townie leader & I feel he's been picking townie's off at night since he's done so.
##Vote: [M] Shaka Zulu
Catherine the Great would be my 2nd pick for scum in plain sight but given that she wasn't convinced of Saladin's guilt yesterday & only voted for him to avoid the lynch herself, I vote for Shaka instead
Oh yeah incidentally here's a roleclaim. I think at this point we're down to the bare bones and I want to make the results of my investigations public. I know I might be lynched today so it's best to get it all out to help the town rather than croaking without any of you knowing what happened. I'm a cop. Correct shade of blue text and so on and so forth etc. etc.
Night 1: Mao, Guilty. This is why I was pushing him so hard on the next day. I also agreed that a cop should investigate themselves on Night 1 so he would not know that this is why I was onto him.
Night 2: Shaka, Guilty. This is why I came down on him so hard to start the day but then Simon/Elizabeth ended up pissing me off and forcing me to vote Saladin. You will notice my careful scrutiny of Saladin's Cop claim. I wasn't sure if I believed him. It should be obvious why I was paying close attention to him.
Night 3: Simon Bolivar, Guilty. I think you all know why (or you will) I did this.
Feel free to ask questions about my choices or results or anything else. Let's talk!
PART II of Catherine v Bolivar coming up soon!
2 cops? Seems like a desperate attempt to save yourself Catherine but you know what I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. I would venture a guess that any heat on you in this game comes from posting style rather than you being scum. But I'm willing to debate decent opinions to the contary of course! My vote stays on Shaka
I always post like this in mafia games xD I don't see how people don't realise who the heck I am by now, just like it was obvious that Saladin was Lance. As I've said, I'm happy to discuss my actions with everyone. I've yet to see anyone come up with a convincing reason why I should be lynched and I'd love to debate the matter. That's the fun of mafia!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Alexander The Great
Anyway here's part 2 of my arguments against Bolivar! Please enjoy.
Next up is your utterly worthless vote for me. Or rather, one aspect of it. I'm not going to even get into the garbage "You're aggressive!" nonsense you spewed. Incidentally, how's this for aggression? Oh no Mr Bolivar please don't vote for me because of it!!! :eek: This is concerning Gandhi, the crux of your case.The fact remains? It's no more a fact than "You have good reasons for voting for me" or "Ice cream is terrible", in that it's not a fact at all! I did not vote for Gandhi. Ever. Jesus christ. (Hey man! 'sup! :D)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Simon Bolivar
Now, I can accept this as a mistake. I can. But when I pointed this out to you, you ignored it and posted some white noise bollocks about a bro fist and how much you love Jiro - a valuable contribution. So, thinking you missed it, I pointed it out again. And yet again you ignored it even though it totally undermined your reason for voting for me. Or maybe that's why you ignored it. :roll2
You could've stopped it. You could've admitted you were wrong and unvoted me, and got your "pal" Liz to unvote me. Only you didn't. You left me with no choice but to vote for Saladin who turned out to be our cop. I don't give a smurf who you or anyone else says is to blame for it, because you have a hefty involvement in this.
Part 3 is going to be the killer. The "smoking gun". Stay tuned~
5 votes for a majority lynch.
Saladin was a cop? WTF? I would never expect a cop to act like he did, to me a cop acts more like Catherine has been. You know, investigating, pushing the people they've investigated who've come up guilty, trying to convince the town of what they know without coming out and saying, "I'm the cop" which only paints a big red bulls eye on them for the Mafia. I did play in the Mafia game where there was a double voting Mafia player, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if the mods went the other way and decided to cull Mafia power a bit by restricting their ability to vote in the lynch. However, I am not jumping on any bandwagon yet, I'm going to read through the thread again and see if what Catherine says is true.
Three guilty shots in a row and I am one of them? Either you are a liar or a troutty cop, Catherine.
1 - [M] Catherine the Great - [M] Gandhi
1 - [M] Simon Bolivar - [M] Catherine the Great
1 - [M] Shaka Zulu - [M] Alexander the Great
My civilization is a pretty big thing, and it is good, but the hell if Convenience is something we have lying around like your claim, Catherine. I am second in line, so why go after your third result?
To be fair Shaka, Catherine did go after you yesterday before she had to get out of the fire herself. It just looks like she likes to run with the information she's given at the time she finds it out.