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And nobody predicted this would happen.
Major tournament wins...
Messi: 0
Ronaldo: 1
Finally proves who the better player is.
I don't think it proves anything with regards to Messi v Ronaldo. Especially these days when the World Cup and Euros are no longer the pinnacle of the sport.
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Originally Posted by Bubba
Messi: 1
Ronaldo: 0
Finally proves who the better man is.
Nah, it clearly does.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
Also, Zidane was better than both of them! So was Maradona.
Depends on your criteria. Is it relative to their own eras or relative to each other? Because if you took Theo Walcott and stuck him in the 80's he'd be as good as Maradona was given the huge advancements in physical conditioning that the game has seen over the last 30 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
Well they were both better than Messi! They both won major trophies with their country.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
Good to know that Christophe Dugarry is better than Johan Cruyff because he won a major tournament.
Not sure why Messi is to blame for Argentina not winning a tournament anyway. Did he make Higuain miss that chance in 2014? Or did he make Pekerman do a dumb substitution when leading Germany in 2006? And Ronaldo did nothing in all bar two games in this tournament.
Portugal won? Ugh. Ronaldo's ego has inflated by 300%, no doubt. They didn't even play all that well for much of the tournament. They did 'just' enough to win in the knockout tournament, but they genuinely didn't impress me much the entire way.
Every 12 years a trout team wins the Euros. England 2028...?
Oh yeah, I guess that tradition holds after all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Cruff was overrated just like Messi. If they can't prove it on the biggest stage then they can't be considered the best!Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
Ronaldo has been the player of the tournament, for me. Dragged Portugal to the final and deserved a helping hand from his teammates in the final.
Now that's a bold declaration to end all bold declarations.Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticDepends on your criteria. Is it relative to their own eras or relative to each other? Because if you took Theo Walcott and stuck him in the 80's he'd be as good as Maradona was given the huge advancements in physical conditioning that the game has seen over the last 30 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
Say what you want about Walcott, I find it difficult to believe he's off doing lines of coke off Jack Wilshere's arse every night.
The World Cup not the pinnacle of the sport? It 100% is!Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
And agreed with Zidane. He's still the best player I've actually seen in my lifetime, though can understand why people say Messi.
I never have any sympathy for teams when you get into overtime. Teams are not THAT well balanced between countries that no goals should've occurred in all that time.
This entire tournament was countries playing German football except, ironically, for the Germans. Still, boring tournament on a whole.
Hope the World cup will be better, although I'm fairly sure we won't join that one either.
Holland have France in their World Cup qualifying group (not to mention Sweden), so that will be tough. Only one team qualified automatically too.
I have a hope in Vincent Janssen as our new semi-'Robben', if he can manage to keep the pace at Tottenham Hotspurs. I think we can get the defense reasonably decent with Blind as a center, but by god, we have zero midfielders with any above average skill. Every game would be a battle.