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Courtesy of AdventChildren.net's vspirit. A Forum member there took a tape recorder to the Montreal showing of the 25 minute Advent Children preview and recorded it, then vspirit translated the Japanese dialogue into English.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackRoomKid
do you know the exact link? I couldnt find it :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD
Ah I see, this would be good to read, I've read transcripts from other sites, by people who were at the screening and wrote down what they remembered, but not an exact transcript of the dialogue from it. Yes if you could provide a link that would be great. If not I'll try find it myself :D
Ah I've just found it, honestly its not hard to find atall cloud strife, just go to the adventchildren.net home page and click on the right somewhere where it says Venice Summary, and then Movie Script Translation, see, easy :D
:eek: hahahaha i didnt look on that side, i kept looking at the left side thank you! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by amratis
I think it was from the 3rd, and it was probably fan translated.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackRoomKid
Squall already answered his question:Quote:
I think it was from the 3rd, and it was probably fan translated.
And here is the direct link to the script: http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/..._pre_trans.txtQuote:
Courtesy of AdventChildren.net's vspirit. A Forum member there took a tape recorder to the Montreal showing of the 25 minute Advent Children preview and recorded it, then vspirit translated the Japanese dialogue into English.
I can't be bothered to read every post... I've been gone for a while, so cut me some slack here.
Ok I recently seen trailer 4 and saw ol' Sephy at the end. So I guess he is alive....
Oh yes, he is.. :) ...unless its someone who just really looks like him or somesuch- Doubtful.
^^^lol, yea, who happens to carry his long ol' shank and black outfit
well, he IS alive, he ISN'T dead
questions is....HOW
:::patience, patience::::
I'd say likely, what with (SPOILER)the same thing happening throughout most of Final Fantasy VII with JENOVA in his form; refer especially to the Sephiroth form seen in the Northern Crater's Whirlwind Maze, it becoming JENOVA-DEATH. Further taking into account the likelihood of the other Sephiroth forms that were seen having also been JENOVA parts (especially the one at the City of the Ancients, with it vanishing in a flash of light, followed immediately by the small ball that became JENOVA-LIFE falling from the spot where the Sephiroth form had been), and then it later being revealed that it hadn't been Sephiroth the team had been chasing all along (after the battle with JENOVA-DEATH; Cloud: "Jenova's cells... ...hmm. So that's what this is all about. The Jenova Reunion..."; Tifa: "Not Sephiroth? You mean all this time it wasn't Sephiroth we were after?"), then considering that Sephiroth was very much shown to be dead, his body disintegrating at the heart of the Planet, and then finally considering that JENOVA's head still remains in Advent Children, I'd say it's more likely to be JENOVA than it is to be anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by amratis
^^^now that's more like it...to me that makes so much sense.
It could be (SPOILER)JENOVA working this whole thing out. She knows Cloud is currently the one who can stop her. First it was Aeris who could do it, but Jenova got rid of her quickly. Seeing how Cloud is alive, why not bring Sephorith (or at least an imitation of him) out to intimidate him and strike him with fear. What better way than his worst rival! So at the end, if it is NOT a real Sephorith, then it could be a clone from Jenova...makes sense to me. But now i'm wondering, how is it you get rid of the head? It always eventually finds a way out...first Sephorith, and now the Silver Haired Men she has at her disposal.
Wonders if the silver haired men have Jenova cells..It would seem not, as they are still looking for "Mother"...It could be that Sephiroth is back because he's the sexy beast that ff fans love to hate..
Their silver hair would suggest the presence of JENOVA Cells to me (both Sephiroth and the JENOVA form seen in Nibelheim had silver hair), as well as Kadaj's reference to Cloud as being his "Brother" and also that of the children afflicted with Geostigma (the inner-battle between one's Spirit Energy and JENOVA's Cells).Quote:
Originally Posted by meowwl
More than one kind of Jenova cells maybe? :shifty: I think the silver hair is because they're clones of Sephiroth, without Jenova cells. Genetically nearly identical but lacking the Jenova cells..and I'm still not sure about the mako. They say "brother" because they also assume that Cloud is a clone..Like Sephiroth did in the game... :O_O: It kind of makes me wonder where Cloud's father was in the picture. I think you never see him in the game, just his mother...Cloud might end up having to call Sephiroth or Hojo daddy! :eek: I still think that Geostigma is a virus with Jenova DNA, like duck flu is influenza with duck genes.
There are no genetic duplicates (genetic clones) of Sephiroth in Final Fantasy VII. The term "Clone" was used because they didn't have anything else in the English language that would be one word and would also somehow convey the concept of one who had undergone similar experimentation to Sephiroth, having been infused with Mako and injected with JENOVA's Cells.Quote:
Originally Posted by meowwl
Cloud is a Clone, but in Final Fantasy VII's English translation, all that means is that he had been infused with Mako and injected with JENOVA's Cells:
As for Cloud's dad, we're told he died when Cloud was still a young child:Quote:
Cloud
"I'm physically built like someone on SOLDIER."
"Hojo's plan to clone Sephiroth wasn't that difficult."
"It was just the same procedure they use when creating members of SOLDIER."
Cloud
"You see, someone in SOLDIER isn't simply exposed to Mako energy."
"Their bodies are actually injected with Jenova cells......"
As for Geostigma, in the 25 minute preview of Advent Children shown in Venice, Montreal, and Paris, Vincent plainly states that Geostigma is the result of a conflict between JENOVA's Cells and the "current like the Lifestream" within everyone's bodies. In other words, their Spirit Energy. Geostigma isn't a virus, but the side-effects of an inner battle.Quote:
Cloud
"I don't know if you could call it a 'family'........"
"My father... died when I was still very young."
"That's why my mom...... was living alone in this house."
I think it's RufusQuote:
Originally Posted by Wilder
Right, so basically we're now thinking that it's only Sephiroth's body that comes back, and that it's being completely controlled by Jenova? There's no hint of the orginal Sephiroth personality there? Plausible enough, and just as likely as anything else given that the movie hasnt actually come out yet. However he says "I wont be....just a memory" Is this Jenova speaking this? Sounds like something Seph would say.
In my own case, I'm arguing that it's only his form that we see, not his actual body which we saw get destroyed at the end of the Safer Sephiroth battle. We know that JENOVA's Cells can change their form, as they did in the game, JENOVA-DEATH having certainly taken on his form, and likely JENOVA-LIFE and BIRTH, as well. That JENOVA's head -- which we know from the previews is still around for the movie -- could take on his form doesn't seem any less likely to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by amratis
As for whether or not "I won't be... just a memory" is something only JENOVA or Sephiroth would say, that's really not something we can determine.
I now have a somewhat disturbing visual image of Sephiroth's body growing out of the Jenova head. Ewwww. *shivers*Quote:
Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD
Well I guess we'll see.
If Jenova's head does become Sephiroth, it might explain (SPOILER)what happens to it when Kadaj gets upset over its "disappearance", in the church--you know, he clutches the box thingy and wails "Mother!". But I'm not sure if that makes sense, because if it became Sephiroth (or rather, took on the form of Sephiroth), wouldn't the SHM know about it?
maybe the man in the wheelchair wants to use the head of Jenova to rebuild his body and gain power but somehow it doesnt happen it awakens and sephy returns