I never got a chance to see Fire Cross! I'm deprived! When can u see it? disk one at the Comm. tower?
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I never got a chance to see Fire Cross! I'm deprived! When can u see it? disk one at the Comm. tower?
That's the only time Seifer's on your team, so that's the only time you can use it. But if you take your time killing Seifer the times you battle him, he will use it on you. And you'll get to see all the variations. He uses a different form of it in each battle.
Cloud. Although even if they would meet in some weird freaky other dimension crossing way thing they would get along, I think.
i hope they wouldn't, then it would knock all of the fun out...i mean, i don't think they would see eye to eye on all things. Actually, they're both kind of quite. They'll give each other eye signals. Like both will be fighting Omega Weapon'
Cloud: *eye twitch once*
Squall: *twitch twitch. eyebrow raise*
Cloud: *surprised look* *eye move from side to side once, raise eyebrow, 'what the hell' look*
Squall: *shocked look followed by eyebrow fury twitch and the lionheart eye movement*
*both kill Omega weapon*
it migt be something like that
Well, returning to the topic, I have to go with Cloud. As others have said, though, they would most likely be allies if they ever met.
Cloud will get hit by Renzokuken survive it summon KOTR which had HP aborb mastered equipped a counter attack mastered so if squall survives KOTR he will use Renzokuken + Fated circle its the most likely to be used though then cloud will counter downing squall plus Cloud can have stats of all 200 so his ATB gayuge fills up in 2 seconds so he can get 2 attacks before squall can launch 1 because Squalls ATB is quite slow even at high levels
Hmm, putting it that way then yeah Cloud would win, but if we all go back to the basics, where all stats are at about 60, then what?
Agree!!!! *Shakes Cheerleading Pom Poms* GO SQUALL!! Ok. Glad I got that off. Cloud is still cool, but he isn't like Squall. Sure, Cloud's got the huge sword an all but Squall's got a GUNBLADE! He can either shoot ya or slash ya. That's an advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Ekonis
i hate both characters but cloud would probebly win (Squalls a loser!)
Nu-Uh. Oh, well... Squall's not a loser! And niether is Cloud. This should be a voting poll.
SQUALL IS NOT A LOSER! You never seen him kick ass with a gunblade? Cloud wouldn't win if i had anything to do with it!
First off, Squall is not a loser! At least give some evidence supporting such a claim, or suffer the wrath of Squall's fans!
Anyway, did anyone even read my first post in this thread? I think I fairly clearly pointed out that there is no contest. They use totally different battle systems (which makes comparisons annoying anyway), but even so, each could take the other's HP down to zero with a single hit. Whoever attacked first would be victorious.
I'm a great Squall fan but even so I refuse to overlook the Final Attack materia. If Cloud had this linked to Phoenix Squall wouldn't stand a chance. Unless he had 100 Firagas, FullLifes and Ultimas junctioned to Elem-Def-J. Hmmm... And so the battle continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
However, even a mastered Final Attack will only work five times so unless Cloud has two of them (one linked to Phoenix, one to KotR or some such materia) Squall wouls win.
I think we should call it a draw and be done with it.
if it was a battle of personalities cloud cause squall is a bit boring but hes still cool :)
Squall i think would win that one...or..they both would silently duke it out by wiggling fingers since they both don't talk much, and then they'll both start yelling because they've both got issues. Well, Squall would win that one because...he's a bit more aggressive I think than Cloud
I think we should kinda end this too with a draw, they're both cool (if not Squalls cooler) and they both kick ass (Cloud more sometimes) they'd be friends more than anything, why not do a competition instead? Who would win against some Ruby Dragons? A team Squall chooses or a team Cloud chooses?
I still stand by what I said. Cloud would win because Cloud is...mako enhanced. It doesn't make him who he is, but that's what he's turned into and it most definetely affects his battle performance. There would be no competition with him and Squall.
true it shud b. voting poll plz!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zellyhottie
On the subject of Sephiroth vs Seifer, I gotta say the guy who can Slice one of the strongest GF's in half no problemwould definately win. Seph never even put up a fight at all. Plus, I didn't see him beating any summon materia
Lol, sorry but this just made me laugh. You've got an idea here, we should turn this into the who would win a 'I've got more issue's then you arguement' between Cloud and Squall. I'm not asking which one actually DOES have more issue's, I mean between them, if they were actually arguing,....how do you think it would pan out? Because you're right, they're neither of them the most vocal of ppl, Squall especially. At first they'd just stand there and glare at eachother..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dking'squeen
ahh... after five months i'm back. Cloud would still win just like he would have five months ago. No disrespect to squall or anyone else but cloud is just the best. :)
No, he wouldn't. He's get beat up and his ass kicked by Squall, as I said :P Well, what could Cloud do that Squall couldn't beat him in? I mean, yeah it's probably already been answered, but no one's reading through all of those pages
Must you disagree.
Squall would win on account that he's speedier with the gunblade. In a straight up, sword duel to the death, no magic/gf/materia, it could go either way. But Squall would have to stay on his toes, lest he be cleaved by Cloud's massive blade. And Cloud would have to be accurate with his swings, lest he be shot and slashed at the same time at the hands of Squall. To wrap it up, heres how the fight would probably go.
Squall get a few shots in, but is knocked down. Wounded, he uses Renzokuken, almost killing Cloud and cutting off his left arm. With the last of his strength, Cloud slashes Squall away, victorious. But he would be out of Hi-Potions, so he would die from his wounds. THE END
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dking
not cool, why can't we all just get along. Cloud would win :D
chaos: Darn, this has been debated too much. If you do it by just attack power, and all the numbers that they rack up, Squall would win. With those first slashes of Renzokuken, plus, his Lionheart has a few extra slashes. Let's see, they both act depressed most of the time. Cloud has skinnier arms yet he is able to hold such a giant sword. Eh, probably a tie.
Rubedo: If they really smart, they'd realize that their both great characters and ride chocobos off into the distance. :p
Cloud survived being stabbed by the Masamune and it was half through him he stayed concioused and used it to pick up spehiroth and throw him into the reactor
Cloud uses enemy skill big guard Renzokuken= 2500 per hit lol making lion heart do only half its max damage
Cloud uses mastered KOTR+Hp absorb
Squall uses Renzokuken+ Blasting zone Cloud gets spikier hair lol
Cloud uses KOTR again
Squall dies becomes a zombie from the side affects and eats clouds brain and it becomes a zombie game lol
Phoenix + Final attack
4x Cut so cloud does about 40,000 damage per hit
equipped with a chocobo feather and had alot of speed sources used
Bio+added effect = squall poisoned dealing about -1000 a turn so Cloud does 41,000 damage in total if he isnt using omnislash
you gotta think
Cloud could just silence squall so he cannot use Aura and if he has a ribbon equipped than Squall cant counter because this is a fair battle so no items
Cloud has W-summon W-magic and W-item equipped to himself he'd have an advantage
cast haste on himself And slow on squall as soon as battle starts
Summon KOTR and voila squall defeated
cloud would win cz hes got the funky spikey hair :P
In my opinion Squall and Cloud are very much the same. They both are sarcastic and emotionless at first but throughout the game's they both develop a sense of love and passion for the people and world around them, With this motive anyone can win. The passion is the will to do what you think is right and fight for who you care about.. But I'd say Cloud has alot more passion as he's lost alot more than just the world around him.. he lost a close friend too giving him the power to fight his enemies for that friend's benefit. Squall on the other hand is only protecting his friends and the world. His emotions are like Clouds and he develops these after he meets Rinoa. Even though there were times where Squall almost lost Rinoa.. he did not lose her. Therefore his passion to fight was alot less powerful than Cloud's.. So putting the two together with these motives. If each was an enemy to each other, I'd have to say Cloud. Due to the passion he has for fighting and protecting others.
and the spikey hair compared to squalls curtain thingys!
Surprisingly I like Squalls hair :P so leave it be *smiles sweetly* but Cloud's hair defy's gravity so I'll have to give him that hehe :D
bouncy!!!! thats all squall's hair is: bouncy!!!! cloud's hair defies gravity without gel!!! now thats what i call a bad hair day and who else can climb a snowy mountain in a short sleeved tee? cloud
this thread has been going for a while:D
i think Cloud would win, cos hes got a bigger sword :p
come on squall is much more cool than cloud.....cloud....i dont think that he is that great...i Squall could kick his ass very easy
cloud would kick that wimps ass, clouds sword alone is bigger than squall
See, thats what I'm talking about. At least some one else knows whats really going on here. I like squall...but...cloud is just awesome and so is his sword. To be honest with you I would have thought that all this time that this forum has been up, everyone would have said everything there is to possibly say.Quote:
Originally Posted by sephiroth JR
cloud says jump squall says how high basickly i think cloud would win just by using metor rain cloud big sword squall chopstick
Yeah those slashes would kinda hit eachother like eac one parriing the next. But squall kinda does a 20 hit lionheart right?? And cloud does a 15 hit. So squall will do more hits but he would not only piss off cloud but cloud will also use knights of the round then omni slash him and he's out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dking'squeen
Cloud can have certain materia combo so when squall makes 1 attack cloud counters with 7+ then its clouds turn whom uses omnislash
or Cloud has counter with KOTR and buh bye squally
Sqaull hand's down, ignore my avater while I explain.
First of all even if Cloud were to use his "Knight's of the round table" Squall can easily counter using a GF and even if the GF doesn't get summoned due to lack of speed Squall won't take damage.
Sqaull can then use Eden which can be powered up COMPLETLY OBLITERATING Cloud.
Let's just say Cloud has already put Eden out of the picture all Squall has to do is let Cloud attack him till he goes critical health and use Lionheart HOWEVER Cloud has to wait for enough damage to be done to him so Squall can just not attack Cloud therefore Cloud has no Limit.
Also Squall can use the "Restore" command brining him back to full health.
Now to be Biased: Squall would kick that girl dress wearing freak of nature "Cloud" back to the dirt hole he came from!!!.
Nah just kidding both Cloud and Squall are sound but I still say Squall would win.
In Ehgeiz, Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth, Vincent, Yuffie, and Zack all made cameo appearances. In two player Cloud could fight against Tifa or Vincent or Yuffie or Zack . . . or Sephiroth. Sephiroth is the only whom Cloud has reason to fight and that doesn't hinder your ability to force him to beat the crap out of his closest friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xxiawakin
If we're talking about just FF7 and FF8 then I think that Cloud would still kick the crap out of Squall if only because he has a better reason to fight.
If we're talking about them as a whole, including all of their cameos . . . Cloud would still win. Cloud is so much faster than Squall in KH which is why you have to focus on taking him out first. Squall is cake after that. Besides, even with Squall's gunblade as an edge in combat it wouldn't help 'cause Cloud has taken quite a few bullets during his battles in FF7.
Cloud leaps for a Braver assault and Squall tries a Rising Slash. The two can't avoid being hit by the other's attack.
Cloud rushes Squall and tries to skewer him with Clim Hazzard but is dodged and Squall attempts a (I forget that second one), but Cloud dodges that.
As Squall fires up his Blasting Zone attack, Cloud leaps into the air to perform Meteorain.
As the two stand battered and breathing heavily, a second wind drives them at each other. Squall unleashes Renzokuken which is easily outdone by Cloud's Omnislash.
[[Hehe. I haven't actually seen the Lionheart 'cause I haven't been able to make the Lionheart gunblade. I just can't get my hands on the materials. I'm sure Cloud would win anyway.]]
ok, squall would win realistically and in the video game. think about it. why the hell would squall even bother fighting cloud? in real life, cloud would randomly come up, try and kill squall, squall would dodge whatever cloud did, and then hed pop a cap in his brain. thus, killing cloud. in the game, lion heart does about 200,000+ damage (for me) and omnislash does not.
squall would win, cuz you cannot count only the damage of the lionheart but also the damage that is dealt before that in the attack sequence that preceeds it, and if squall is in his critical he can use every turn a bloody lionheart and he would kill cloud in a pitiful 5 seconds time.
In my opinion..I'd say that Squall would win. He's a bit more intelligent..and focused...but it would be a tough match, both are good characters and fighters. (Plus, not saying this effects my opinion on who'd win..but Squall's my favorite character between the two.)
Geez, this is a stupid arguement. For one thing, you really need to specify the rules of the engagement. Are both characters using their own battle systems? Is Cloud entering with a full Limit Gauge? Is Squall able to use the Ribbon ability?
If both characters are allowed to use the full abilities allowed them in their respective games, Cloud would win. Sneak Attack-Knights of the Round, and Squall's dead (based on the way Sneak Attack and Initiative work, I think Sneak Attack would use the ability attached to it automatically before Squall could attack with Initiative). Since both characters have a max of 9999 life and can do that much damage with a single hit, the winner would be whoever goes first. Squall would have the advantage of unlimited Limit Breaks, but if he was in critical he would die before he could use one. Oh, and don't forget that Lionheart isn't guaranteed. Lionheart hits 16 times (plus the 4-8 hits of Renzokuken), while Omnislash only hits 15, but it doesn't really matter, because neither character would survive half of those hits. Cloud doesn't have Squall's infinite Limit system, but he does have 4xCut, which puts Squall's normal attack to shame. Truly, whoever got in the first hit would win, since both characters can dish out much more than they can take. So I believe that Cloud could when by proper use of the Sneak Attack materia (and even if he lost, he could make it a tie with Final Attack-Knights of the Round, or use Final Attack-Phoenix to instantly resurrect himself).
But truly? I doubt that the two would fight. Squall and Cloud would get along great. Also, since you put this in the FFVIII forum, naturally the majority of the responses will be in favor of Squall. This question has only been asked a few thousand times. Now why don't you just give it up?!
Um... Well, Cloud's braver because he can dress like a woman without (hardly) any fear.
Cloud!!!
Just look at the hair man!!!! and i prefer his huge buster sword!
Cloud has the Ultima Weapon.
Squall has the Lionheart.
Cloud can do 7 specials with the ultimate one Omnislash.
Squall can do 4 specials with the ultimate one Lionheart.
Down to basics, Squall would mop the floor with him. (Not trying to be a Cloud hater, Sorry Cloud Fans) Still love ya, Cloud.
Cloud is faster than Squall. Plain and simple. Squall can dodge Cloud's attack and TRY to shoot him in the back of the head like some kind of pansy-ass coward, but Cloud would deflect it with his wrist armor and then slice the crap out of Squall.
The damage caused by their attacks doesn't count. When making a game to precede another, of course they'll include stronger monsters to serve more of a challenge. With stronger monsters, you need stronger attacks. Thus, Squall's attacks are only able to dish out 200,000+ damage because there are monsters that require you to dish out 200,000+ damage.
If we consider the history behind the skills and attacks of Cloud and Squall respectively, Cloud would win because he's had better training. Game damage is a forgery based on the power of the enemies within. If Cloud had made a cameo in FF8, he'd've been able to take down Ultima, Omega, Bahamut, that damn giant-spider robot, Edea, Adel, and even Ultimecia with just a few attacks. If Squall were to make a cameo in FF7, following its rules, he'd barely be able to keep up with Cloud.
I personally have no preference to Cloud. I just know he's faster. My favorite character is Zack, but I don't think he could compete with either.
I sorted accidently made topic on the "Final Fantasy Genaral" thead without knowing there already one here!! Okay I voice in this I would say Usually Cloud and Squall will be argueing at each other, then a fist-Fight..Now,On the fight on cloud and squall ,I would say Cloud would. why? 1). Cloud got too many girls 2). his sword whould slice and dice him!that all I have to say! :mog: :choc: :eep: :moomba: :riiight: :grr: :frust: :chop:
THis thread is still going? WTF?
People keep saying this battle would never happen because Cloud and Squall have no reason to fight. They say they would get along.
I agree. I agree that Cloud and Squall might get along.
So could Goku and Vegeta if Vegeta would quit being such a little whiner. Ever since Vegeta stopped trying to destroy the world, Goku has accepted their rivalry as being friendly instead of bitter.
Real friends push each other . . . to find their limits and remove their weaknesses and to overcome their qualms.
I think that would be the relationship Cloud and Squall would have. It's been a popular saying throughout the history of our greatest warriors, "there is no better way to express your emotions than through a good fight."
True, but there would be no "winner". They would constantly hone their skills against one another, but neither would wind up actually losing. Cloud isn't like Seifer, he wouldn't suddenly use Omnislash to bitch Squall while the two were dueling...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercen-X
i think squall would win cuse cooler blade but they both have the same type of the last finishing moves
I would have to favor Cloud because Squall would be too busy whining about being an antisocial and question his sexual preference while Cloud slices his head off, but thats just how *I* see it.
Cloud all the way lol he had more of a personality than Squall and was easier to like.... in my opinion anyway ^^
That kid could possibly have some seriously bad dress sense...and some mood...wouldn't wanna run into THAT on a dark night
Hmm, a toughie, Cloud has cool hair and Squall has a cool dress sense...but if we're going in ways of figthing then probably Squall, not only is he quicker than Cloud, but unless Cloud had a full limit, he'd stand little chance as Squall could use initiative, use aura and with a fast junction, would be able to set his limit off quicker.
But it think the whole lone wolf thing about the pair of them would make them want to share their feelings rather than fight each other...maybe they should have a thumb war? What in insteresting match THAT would be!
hi i'm new and this is my first post any way
my choice is Cloud because FF7 is my first game I got and it's my fave but Squall has cool weapons which can fire
Since when could sqaull shoot with the gunblade?, I never seen him do it.
Well, if their hair were involved in this fight...
It would have to be Cloud. His is sharper than Squall's. Squall's is just limp. Cloud's is firm and pointy. Also, my last two sentences could totally be taken the wrong way. :eek:
Why are they fighting in the first place? :confused: Squall would win hands down, so what is the point in Cloud even bothering? (sorry Cloud lovers.) Who offended who?
But Cloud is pretty cool with the big sword an all....
i dunno....this is a toughie....
does saying Squall's hot count? well, if this was a "who's cuter?" poll thing.
okay, Squall.....
Cloud would win hands down. I mean, even if Cloud had his hands tied behind his back, little pieces of duct tape over his eyes, and Squall had a spear, Cloud would win.
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Originally Posted by Dking'squeen
I thought it died ages ago, after our spammage. I guess not...
They would never fight to begin with.It would be a deadlock for hours.Cloud might have better attacks but squall has the better speed.I think the best way to see who is better is like a samurai thing,like a one slash thing.I think they both would die.
Squall:Though shalt not pass the gates of mordor!!!
Cloud:Bah....the hell i will...charge!!!
(Squal trips him up and cloud goes flying into a wandering troop of orcs, orcs hungry so....)
(legolas cries because hes a big girl)
Agreed...Squall will win....
(sorry...theme tune of lord of the rings going through my head....ill shut up ow)
No, no, no, this is how it happened...
Cloud: So then...
Squall: So indeed...
*both are silent and staring absently into space*
Cloud: Well, my game was the first on PS
Squall: Mine was on four disks
*they fall silent again and this time stare at each other*
Both: Thumb War!
*they engage in combat and break each others thumbs*
Cloud: You broke my thumb *sucks thumb*
Squall: I'll never pull a trigger again
*both sob with tears and become friends*
Squall would win because omni-slash hits 17 times and lionheart hits 18 time. so cloud would be dead.
Squall would win because Cloud can use sneak attack but Squall has alert which would prevent back attack and when squall has 170 speed hes about 4 times faster then Cloud when he has 255 speed so if Squall had 255 speed then Cloud would lose
Squall and Clound are so handsame!the two men I like too :)
Definitely Cloud I have never seen Omnislash do less 9999 damage with a hit but whenever I use Lionheart it does alot of 7000s and 8000s Cloud would kick squall's butt.
Well, it's like asking which color is better, red or blue? it's all a matter of opinion. personally i like blue better, but that doesn't mean it's better. for the main question, my bet would be on Squall. nothing's going to top Lionheart.
It doesn't matter about lionheart and omnislash 1 hit and they both die Squall would win because Cloud can use sneak attack but Squall has alert which would prevent back attack and when squall has 170 speed hes about 4 times faster then Cloud when he has 255 speed so if Squall had 255 speed then Cloud would lose
did you even read that
Cloud or Squall....Tidus would kick of of their arses with a beach volley ball. Tidus could do potentially 99,999 x 8 damages!! That's like 5 or 6 omnislashes
uh huh..... 99,999x8 is pointless 1 slash wins
How about someone end this debate. Let's just say they fight and can't outdo one another. That way everyone wins. Man people can be so biased.
Well i'll END this With a comic
Cloud: Huh where did the life stream take me to?
Squall: Huh who's the spiky haired jerk who pops outta nowhere
Cloud: What didja say to me WIMP
Squall: ok Zell wannabe lets fight!
Zell: hey why did i suddenly come up here!
Cloud: (Summons BAHAMUT)
Squall: (Also Summons BAHAMUT)
Cloud:huff puff
Squall: (Thinks a Stategy but nothing pops out)
Cloud: okay now i'll kill you (Jumps High And lands with a special version of OMNISLASH!)
Squall: oh [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] what will i do (thinks again still nothing pops out!)
Cloud: DIE!
Squall: Oh [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]! DAMN why can't i think
Squall's head is decapitated during the omni slash!
Cloud Walks Away With A VERY COOL POSE!
what rafael said.
Why is this thread still alive? And that comic, funny...a little...I think Squall would have thought of something, surely, but funny.
He thinks enough to be able to at least come up with something, that was so biased, Rafael!
*poke poke poke*
Cloud: Huh where did the life stream take me to?
Squall: Huh who's the spiky haired jerk who pops outta nowhere
Cloud: What didja say to me WIMP
Squall: ok Zell wannabe lets fight!
Zell: hey why did i suddenly come up here!
Cloud: (Summons BAHAMUT)
Squall: (Also Summons BAHAMUT)
Cloud:huff puff
Squall: (Thinks a Stategy but nothing pops out)
Cloud: okay now i'll kill you (Jumps High And lands with a special version of OMNISLASH!)
Squall: oh what will i do (thinks again still nothing pops out!)
Cloud: DIE!
Sqall:wait a minute ive thought of something all i need to do is*omnislash rips sqalls head off before he manages to do his plan.*
Cloud Walks Away With A VERY COOL POSE!
I preffer Squall *-* daddy! he's so kute! ^-^ really really kute!
CLOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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