I'm pretty sure that's gotta be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
Is the "I" in the first sentence a 1? Because Tiamat was a fiend in FF1 as well.....Quote:
Originally Posted by medigodoom
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I'm pretty sure that's gotta be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
Is the "I" in the first sentence a 1? Because Tiamat was a fiend in FF1 as well.....Quote:
Originally Posted by medigodoom
Or Gf Odin since he is in the top of a tower also.
Tiamat has traditionally been portrayed in the FF series as a multi-headed, hydra-like monster. I suspect they had to add the 'former GF' to it's description because the makers copied the GF Bahamut's design in different colors.
I'll put my money on it being Griever, cause Griever was the mightiest GF in FFVIII...
Much Love
Phoenix
What happened medigodoom?
Well folks, should I wait for confirmation or ask a riddle myself?
Sorry, forgot about this. BG-57, your turn, since you had the first correct answer
S'ok, I was just getting worried :greenie:
This one actually rhymes! Too bad my poetry stinks. :cry:
I fight fools who come along
I respect only the strong
But bring my old blue friend
She will bring about my end
Odin.
No, but you're thinking along the right lines here.
IFIRIT.
Nice riddle BG-57!
I suppose it's Kilika's turn...
Ifrit is correct! :hot:
If you summon Shiva against him in the fire cave, he'll exclaim: 'You have Shiva?', which implies they know each other from before. Maybe waaay before considering all the FFs they've been in together.
You're up Kilika! :)
Ahhh....Im not good with riddles. I will give it a shot.
I don't come from where you think I come,
A spaceship is where I'm from,
If I fell in the ocean blue,
Blending in is a nice clue,
A few items is all I need,
And off you win a game with speed,
Find me if you dare,
Who am I, do you really care?
Pupu!
Funny, I just got to him/her/it last night, :p
Am I right?
i second that guess
yes PuPu! Booya! :D
all righty.....I only guessed that.......over 2 weeks ago :p
My turn I suppose.............
Into my room,
I beckon thee
only if you prove yourself worthy
you may aquire
she that sings
a tune with a silent ring
Julia?
~lol, nah, i don't know
The card playing guy in the Dollet Pub.
Right you are. I figured that one would be easy :p .Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
Your turn, Skyblade.
Ok, someone else can make a riddle.
can i pleeeeeeeeeeease?!
okay, thanks ^^;;
A pile of jelly, that's what I'm like,
You may find me a tiresome sight.
Many elements, randomly selected,
I'm the beast that's often neglected.
But don't flee from me, I'm easy to slay,
Check me with scan, dont run away!
The way i described it makes it harder than it needs to be ^^;;
<('-')> ~optimistic~
Blobra?Quote:
Originally Posted by Laugh at face of Danger
AWW SHUCKS!!
i thought it was good as well,
fine your turn
<('-')> ~optimistic~
In the middle of the night,
I attack those for whom you care.
With tumbling boulders,
I attack, so beware!
uuhhhgg....that's lame....anyways, any guesses?
Behemoth?
Something using meteor?
Nope and nope. Guess again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laugh at face of Danger
okay i shall!
..........or not :(
Granaldo?
Dont get used to my smile
For it will go away after a while
You wont have a difficult battle on your hands
When you challenge me in the galbadian sands
English :rolleyes2 anyway who am I ?
Wait your turn. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Oryxxx
Right!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
To Oryxxx: Now its BG-57's turn. You have to answer correctly to post the riddle. BTW, the answer is Belhemel?
BG-57's turn, seen as how he answered the last one correctly.
Here we go:
Lying in wait for many years
Crushing with the weight of tears
A great dark evil to contain
Or else to be unleashed again
lunatic pandora?
Sorry, I didnt see there was an unanswered question. Yes it was Belhelm
TO BG-57 : Lunar cry ?
You are correct, sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
I'm really curious about your riddle G SpOtZ. :)
Of her own hand...
she fights with an ace of the north,
and an ace of the east...
but depends on three stikes in both the south and the west...
she may be one of a kind,
but can turn to three crowns, majestic.
there ya go ^__^
is it that queen of cards chick?
UMMMMM................................... :p
:love:
nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by assemblage
Edea's Card.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
What's really funny is the riddle in post #178 of this thread:
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
oops LOL my bad.... oh well, beegee fitty seven, go make ur riddle.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
Sure thing, although thankfully it will not involve the lyrics of 'Staying Alive'. ;)
Alone I dwell in the woods
A stone among my goods
The company of others I forsake
Except for my friend in the lake
the monkey for one of the side quests, obel lake sidequest maybe. the monkey lies in the woods somewhere near dollet maybe?
You are correct G SpOtZ! It's Mr. Monkey, the trash-talking, stone chucking special friend of the Obel Lake monster. :monkey:
oh it's my turn haha... hmmmm...
gimme a lil bit of time. or someone else can go if they want.
You 'll want to keep your Hp low and cast haste
otherwise I will give you an immediate taste
of my dreadful and horrifying breath
that will lead you to a slow and awkward death.
Who am I ? hmmmmmmmmm hard one ;) It rhymes, thats a start.
I'm guessing Malboro, but you'll have to answer G Spotz upcoming riddle before you can ask one of your own. Or I could reread G Spotz post.
So yeah, I guess Malboro.
Lol i dont understand the rules, anyway its malboro, obviously.
I think G SpOtZ indicated that someone can have his turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
The rules are simple:
1) Whoever correctly guesses the latest riddle gets to post one of their own.
2) Whoever correctly guesses the lastest riddle can opt to allow someone else to take their turn. In that case the person who posts next can ask a riddle.
Sepho, I'm pretty sure it's your turn.
Yeah, someone else can take my turn. Guessing at riddles is good times, but I'm no good at coming up with my own most of the time.
By the seashore I will wait
I share the sorceress' fate
Seeds in my garden will grow
In my place they will go
Sorceress Edea ?
Can be found at Edea's house by the seashore, founded garden , etc ...
You're close.
Is it Cid? he waits with her after a while.....
You are correct rcabronx! Your go. :)
k i'll give this a whirl...not gonna rhyme or nuttin tho:
you are so pretty
you make me so nervous
i really hope these help
in your journey
so take them for me
and use them really well
who is saying this?
Could it be that guy in Timber who gives you potions when certain female characters are in the party? There's probably a more obvious answer, but that guy sprung to mind immediately.
Ding Ding Ding! Someone give Sepho a cookie....................... NOW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sepho
Yah you're right. You go.
Well,4 days has passed.
Here is a riddle to honour the "Beautiful" thread (And some questions people wanna me to answer on it).
But this riddle is about something in-game,rest assured.
The riddle is:
White am I
Because of the many colors I have.
White am I
Due to the powers of an evil sorceres on an place behound infrared
But thanks to me some heros will be able to walk behound blue.
You canīt find me on the wavelenght
You can only find me if the ONE just stomps on the frequency.
Isn't it still Sepho's turn? :sweat:
Oh, sorry. I thought I had subscribed to these threads.
BG-57, you can go ahead and take a turn. Sorry for making you guys wait.
It's time for me to choose
So my allies will not lose
I select one out of the four
Pray that my choice isn't poor
gilgamesh
Correct Unknowns! :)
lmao that was so funny, everybody completely ignored FE's turn XD hahaha...
Illegally.4 days had passed.It was no fun.I think it is really annoying making fun of others.
i didn't make fun, jus thought it was funny ^___^ you can go if you get unknown's correc tho! (if she goes, that is.)
Donīt worry,the answer to my riddle is not anything you donīt know nor any kind of theory.Is something along the script.
Anyway, G SpOtZ can have my turn.
ahh, go ahead FE
Many many many thanks G SpOtZ.
White am I
Because of the many colors I have.
White am I
Due to the powers of an evil sorceress on a place behound infrared.
But thanks to me some heros will be able to walk behound blue.
You canīt find me on the wavelenght
You can only find me if the ONE just stomps on the frequency.
Question before anyone can even hazard a guess: What the hell is "behound"? Is it supposed to be "beyond", or "behind"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Yep.Sorry for my bad English.Itīs Beyond.
Omega Weapon?
Nope.Why do you think that?I see.You think that because Omega is white,the sorceress lives afar from itīs location,you need to use heros on the battle,you think the frequency refers to the sound,etc...
But thatīs not the case.
The last two lines were the key to understand the riddle.
Esthar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
I say that because, the city, from afar looks white, but in fact has many colours, being a city.
The Evil Sorceress is Adel.
Walking beyond blue means going beyond the sky (or ocean) using the Ragnarok.
And in order to find it, you have to look beyond the wavelength of the camouflage (or holographic, or whatever) barrier, but hit its frequency bang on to get through the barrier, being the part where the barrier starts to fizzle in and out after beating the Abadon, when you get past the barrier.
Wow,thatīs much more logical than Omega Weapon.But no,thatīs not it.What a coincidence!
By the way we never see the city white (at least I never saw it ).
If you discover the keyword on the last line the rest of the riddle will be straight.
The Rosetta Stone in Ulti's castle. Based off the last line, you have to "stomp" all the notes at once to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Nope.
One needs to understand a little about basic physics to get it.
The last line should be interpreted literally.Note the word formed with capital letters.
The "sorceress" thingy helps a lot.
Many thanks for your efforts this time.
Well, beyond infrared is radio waves. So I suppose this refers to the radio tower in some way?
Is it the lighthouse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Because the lighthouse and the shelter that Edea lives in is white
And the land surrounding it and the rooms it used to have was colorful.
Before it was destroyed, it was also white
The evil sorceress was Ultemecia, which controlled sorceress Edea
The hero's have been there already, and they know of the shelter
At first on the map, she's not on it, so she is isolated.
Um...you can only find it if you fly around it, and really, Squall's the one who found it. And about the freqency, I'm not sure about xDDD
Nope.That radio wave thing was right Skyblade.
More than 3 guesses already?
What should I do?The rules donīt cover this.
Can I post the answer?
There is no limit to the number of guesses. It keeps going untill everyone gives up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Is the answer the worldwide signal interference?
Nope
Of course its logical. I wouldn't try to pull a possible answer from out of thin air, or out of my a$$. Nor would I try to make $hit up that alters, or creates a new storyline, to fit an unrealistic assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
:D
Weird. My post disappeared. Maybe an update was lost. :confused:
Anyway, from a physics standpoint, white light is a combination of all visible frequencies of light. White light can then be broken up into a rainbow of colors by a prism or raindrops.
But you mention it's white but also beyond infrared. Wouldn't that be transparent then? Although even transparent things have colors, just not visible ones.
it's the holographic wall of hexagons hiding esthar.
Nope.
Ýou are right BG-57.
But it will be useless unless you use physics on the last line.
I'm gonna just throw one out there, as my old Physics Text Book is at my parents place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Time Compression?
"Due to the powers of an evil sorceress on a place beyond infrared" - Used by Ultimecia, in the future
"But thanks to me some heros will be able to walk beyond blue." - The heroes use it to travel to ultimecia's compressed time.
"You canīt find me on the wavelenght
You can only find me if the ONE just stomps on the frequency"
You have to hit the exact right frequency in order to allow timecompression.
Time Compression,thatīs correct.
But the last line reads !/F=T which means PERIOD.
Infrared has much less frequency than Blue which means higher period.
The meaning of the rest is easy.
That "hit on the exact frequency thing " I donīt understood it.What are you talking about?
Your turn Crazybayman.
Ah....so "one (1) must stomp on the frenquency" meant 1 over Frenquency (1/F), which is equal to Period, T (1/F = T). And a period (T) also refers to Time, which leads us to Time Compression.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Nicely done. I'm impressed FE, that was logical! :p
By hit on the exact right freuency, I meant that you must get the correct frequency, bang on, with no errors, in order for time compression to work. That's how I initially read "Stomp on the frequency".
I got your drift, anyways.
Well, here goes:
Blinded by a flash of light,
Will bring you all to endless night.
Defeat shall come at the hand of he,
Who wields the power to find me.
See?! Told ya! Even Future Esthar can be logical sometimes! (You know, sort of like a broken clock... :D )Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybayman
Thanks for the cumpliment.
I still donīt understand where it says on the storyline that one needs to bang on the right frequency to achieve Time Compression.
Can you understand now the colors on the "Color check " picture?
Is it the answer,Odin?
It doesn't say that anywhere. If using such a high-tech, and sensitive device such as the junction machine ellone, one would think that it would have to be incredibally accurate, and that any waves that may be created would have to have the perfect frequency in order to achieve time compression. The thought of that, was something I just pieced into your riddle, more a guess than anything, to try to make sense of it, because I pieced Ultimecia into it, the heros that can go beyond blue, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Color check picture? I'm not sure what your talking about.......
Sorry, but Odin is incorrect. Try again!
I thought Gilgamesh at first.
"defeat shall come at the hands of he who wields the power to find me"
I had misinterpreted that line, and thought it was referring to Seifer getting wiped out by Gilgamesh. Seifer had the "power to find" Gilgamesh, by eliminating Odin.
But "defeat shall come at the hands" means that Seifer would have to be the one who was victorious, which wasn't the case. If the answer is Gilgamesh, the line should have been written more like: "defeat shall come to he who has the power to find me"...
The reason the riddle is the way I wrote it, and not like that stated above, i.e. :Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
is because the answer is not Gilgamesh. And Seifer has nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
A hint: Think about "light"......"bringing endless night" in the first 2 lines....
ultima weapon?
Correct!Quote:
Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
"Blinded by a flash of light, will bring you all to endless night" - This means its Light Pillar attack.
The last part just means that he who defeats its, has the power to actually find it, by being powerful enough to get down to the end of the Deep Sea Research Centre.
Your turn, G Spotz.
hater of mine, always yelling at me,
isn't gonna make me learn faster,
hater of mine, always looking down on me,
doesn't think i can impress my master.
my life line crashes through glass,
or straps around my haters neck,
but after enough pathetic attempts,
i'll succeed and show him i'm the best.
who am i?
its wedge, since he's always being yelled by biggs
nope nice try though, it makes sense.
Answer:Fisher Kid.
The hater is the Junk Store old man.
The master is Master Fisherman.
The line is the fisher line.
yep, ur turn.
Naked canīt I take over the world.
Even knowing I make a copy of my dress on the highest places of the immediate past.
I dress the sun that brights 8 red rays.
To all times.
Beware,my invisible rays were deadful.
Even to those close to me will shine the ray reflected by the copy of my dress.
Making my rays invisible anyway.
Even if I am dressed I canīt take over the world if the sun is missing.
Ultimecia?
Is this riddle based on your theories?
i'm guessing adel
Edea, perhaps? She has the spokes on the back of her dress that radiate like sunrays. They only appear when she's in combat.
Nope.But you are on the right way BG-57.
But instead of 7 we have 8.Remember this.
Are either of the 2 posts previous to BG-57's correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
ultimicia cause she has a sun motif on her throne
HELLO????Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybayman
When I say nope it means that none of the answers was right.
She has a sun motif on her throne? never noticed that.I must go play.
Interesting.
Ok then. Just checking, as you have been known to ignore (or just not notice) posts not at the bottom of the thread from time to time. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Well, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybayman
hhmm......*scratches head*
omega weapon
whats the riddle i just entered
the master fishermans student
Eden maybe?
Nope
Rinoa? or Selphie?
I have a good theory for it being ultimicia. since she uses ellone to see this past she is in theory "naked" because she has no physical form in this time, so the uses Edea as her "dress" with the 7 rays of the sun.
the rising sun weapon. lol.
Didnīt I already said that it is not Ulti?Quote:
I have a good theory for it being ultimicia. since she uses ellone to see this past she is in theory "naked" because she has no physical form in this time, so the uses Edea as her "dress" with the 7 rays of the sun.
But that was an interesting analogy which can be seen on the "cowardy" picture of Ultiīs Castle(a skelector dressing out a body).
Also,note that it is said that Hyne give his skin to people and run.This could be a sugestive legend.
i know it was wrong, i just wanted to say what was on my mind
The "Sorceress Power" i.e the magic which is passed from sorceress to sorceress?
Oh,my God!
My little brother used my computer to post a riddle.
And I just realized it now.
I will beat him!
By the way can I post my own riddle during these circumstances?
Finally the reason for FE's madness has been confirmed..........
A split personality. :p
Sure. Post another riddle. And kick his a$$!!! :p
Future Esthar, put a lock on your door, a password on your computer, and kick the $#!+ out of that annoying little kid, because I am getting really, really sick of your little brother excuse...
Are you saying your brother logged on as you and has been posting this riddle and answering our guesses all this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
yeah seriously. the grammar was always the same and the way you typed and spoke stayed the same. is ur little brother EXACTLY like you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
We are brothers.It was me who teach him how to write English.
Both of us like to make theories about FF8 but on my opinion his were worst than mine.
He already gave me the answer and it gives me inspiration.
My riddle will be on the Guiness Book as the shortest ever.
Here it is:
Who am I?
Can you guess ze answer?
Odine
Correct.
Thatīs also the answer to the riddle of my brother.
Your turn,ThePheonix.
You see three ways; I can show you the fourth.
Who am I?
gilgamesh
Wouldn't it be Odin? He's the one who shows Gilgamesh the fourth way...Quote:
Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
Interesting guess, but no, I was thinking of neither Gilgamesh nor Odin.
The portal at Ultiīs castle which led you to Grandidi forest.
This portal is the only one which helps you to find the Ragnarok and the fourth portal.
that's not the one i used to find the ragnarok... but it was one of the portals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
EDIT: and it says "who" am i? so it's probably a person, unless he's just misleading us.
Another good guess, but as G SpOtZ said, it's a person...
It's Ellone. She lets you see the past. :eek: :eek:
Oh yeah,we can go x,y,z and with Ellone t
lol... that wasn't VAGUE or anything...[/sarcasm]Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikku_007
wanna explain at least? haha.
is it the queen of cards? maybe when u challenge her with 3 of the rules shell say ill show u the fourth
It is Ellone, and F.E. actualy had an unusualy decent explanation for it!
It's Rikku_007's turn now, then.
HELLO
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
Well, seeing how Rikku_007 hasn't posted, The Pheonix should go again.
Wait a bit, I'll get him to post one.
I think he has one but... :rolleyes2
FYI, I just want to note that the statute of limitations on riddle threads seems to vary considerably from forum to forum. The Tactics riddle thread can go unanswered for about a week while it seems to be 24 hours in this thread. So check back here often folks. :greenie:
What is the real name of Squall's Gunblade?
See? I got him to post! (and slightly helped him develop the riddle, so I know the answer)
So try to guess it now.
I would have guessed Revolver but that seems too simple.
it is revolver isnt it? (its his first gunblade) and of course his final one is lionheart
Yes, the first one is revolver. There's also Shear Trigger, Cutting Trigger, Flame Saber, Twin Lance, Punishment, and Lionheart.
Is that a ridle?
Actually, it would seem to be more of a trivia question...Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
my guess is the basic revolver
My guess will be that he is going to say that it's named "Griever", because Greiver's symbol is attached to the Gunblade.
Agreed.Quote:
Actually, it would seem to be more of a trivia question...
Is this enabled on this forum?
If it was a trivia question, I would have stayed with my answer "the Revolver" but if it's a riddle, it could be something else.
Who is the person that:
Have a gunblade
Became the Garden Leader.
His name starts with an S
Is the game protagonist.
Answer-Squall.
This isnīt a riddle.This is a Trivia Question.
Who am I
My slade will cut enemies on pieces.
But to my master and my School am I allways loyal.
My rival envies me.
And to the enemy has changed.
A lion with a great heart am I.
Answer:Squall
This is a riddle.
Got the difference Gspotz?
Itīs not just a question of extension.
WOW THANKS FUTURE ESTHAR! NOW I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE! WHOOOOO!
hahaha naw i already knew the difference. but maybe the question was meant to be a riddle. but just worded strangely to seem like a trivia question. 's possible, but i dunno. like if there was a hidden meaning to the question or something.
Looking at the question I donīt think so.
Well, take it however you want, and I don't know which it was supposed to be, but the answer was actually "Griever".
Skyblade, you turn.
The way I see it, it is more of a riddle, because Griever is not the name of any of his gunblades, and requires you to look more into the meaning of the question...
Damn, I got it right. I don't make riddles, so someone else can go ahead.
OOH i wanna go, just give me a littttle bit of time, i won't be long.
....screw it. i'm gonna hand it over to rcabronx cuz apparently she wants.
*wheeze*
yah, let's go
*puff*
gun run s'mo
*hack*
gun be seed
*dry heave*
das what i need
hey, we gun play? this furry guy is tickling my pocket! no? all right, gotta keep runnin den. sees ya! *hork*
The jogger in Balamb garden?
BTW, does anyone really talk like that in the game? :confused:
Selphie
yah bg, yer right. and no, he dun yap like dat. i do wen im lazy to type rite.... LOL!
so it's yer tern.
and future esthar: nope.
My instincts are keen
Ancient lands I have seen
I live my life on the edge
Watch out for that ledge!
hm Irvine
or wait laguna yeah him
No and no. Good guesses though.
THE MASTER FISHERMAN
No. I'm not a master riddler like Thingfish, but I did bury some hints in the text. :greenie:
kiros
EDIT: no...mebbe ward...
Seifer
OK I GOT IT! ITS SELPHIE
she always has quick instincts
she saw centra and trabia
she definetly lives life on the edge
falls of the cliff wen delivering message to Seifer (thanx redxiiii)
Yeah I think ya have got it right, the last one watch out for that ledge maybe refering to the seed exam when she comes to deliver that message to Seifer and falls down a little hill.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunbladeMaster
Anyone notice that there are two "e" with each word that end each sentence?
yea, but wat about it?
Yes I agree I don't see this being a clue, but if it is it must be a very intricate riddle.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunbladeMaster
G SpOtZ is correct! The answer is Kiros. The words 'edge' and 'keen' are hints about his bladed Katal weapons. The ledge is the one that he gets hurled off of by Laguna.
I over analysis too much...... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GunbladeMaster
OK.....G SpOtZ's turn......Quote:
Originally Posted by BG-57
Okay, sorry i took so long, i've been busy with school haha.....
hmm here we go...
what's that you plead? a cutting pinion? a stone of charm?
i've obtained these... from a flying creature and colossal insect,
well then, my maiden of odin, it's time to assist me...
to what does this refer?
um items to build one of squalls gunblades
or
the something about the zantetsuken?
no and no
maybe it is the Cockatrice (flying creature) and GRANALDO (insect)
and its saying that the maiden of Odin (zantetsuken) will assist in killing these monsters for us so we can get the Cockatrice Pinion and the Wizard Stone ?????????????????????????????:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
close, but no.
:mad:
and BTW is it:
it`s time assist me
or did u mean
it`s time, assist me
sorry it was meant to say "it's time to assist me"
Is the Pinion referring to the Pheonix Pinion, used to summon Phoenix?
nope
Quote:
Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
Does it refer to elvoret? (but it's not an insect but a bat thingy monster)
elvoret have siren that you can draw on is she the maiden thats going to assist him?
maybe it is the Cockatrice (flying creature) and GRANALDO (insect)
and its saying that the maiden of Odin (zantetsuken) will assist in killing these monsters for us so we can get the Cockatrice Pinion and the Wizard Stone ?
something to do with this huh.
hmmm
man that was my best answer double :mad:
OH ok we run into Granaldo or Cockatrice in battle and Odin appears and destroy them.
???
nope (to both guesses)