He existed in the past???
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He existed in the past???
is it that machine that you fight after u get out of the underground in midgar.....just b4 u fight hojo.
if memory serves its yellow and palmer and scarlet call it a weapon.
"He existed in the past" is not the correct answer. Nor does "topaz" refer to Proud Clod (the machine you fight in Midgar before fighting Hojo).
The answer is a specific event, btw. Uhh, I'll re-post.
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The ultimate leaves a sword and a gap
Sapphire makes a sacrifice for the mission
Diamond resorts to power, but falls
Emerald and ruby are the last to go
So what ever happened to topaz?
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Again, the first four lines are in chronological order. And the answer lies between lines 1 and 2, chronologically.
Is it the death of Pheonix at Fort Condor, along with the hatching of the baby Pheonix from the large yellow egg?
Nope. I take it you think I've gone nuts (or am ignoring the facts) with my chronology hint?
Is it when all the weapons were coming out of the Crater? I remember counting more weapons then what was seen in the rest of the game.
(ok, this snowing cookies are getting a little annoying. My typing in all jerky because of it. Seee! Typing errorrs !)
(It does make me hungry, though...)
...*mmff*...*coffeecake*...
What? No, that's not it. Another hint: line 4 is always true, no matter what.
I don't, and I'm not. I just don't understand why you would reverse the order of events, unless somehow the events aren't referring to the fates of the Weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by musenji
At any rate, although incorrect, the hatching of Pheonix does happen between those two events, assuming they are the events I thought they were.
You last hint, if anything, is confusing me more. :confused: Are you suggesting that Ruby and Emerald are the last Weapons you can defeat (which is true, although obvious), or that they always have to die (which wouldn't normally be true, since they are optional), or that every version of the game features them (also not true in the conventional sense)?
Oh...I was saying I took it you thought I was ignoring the facts. I wasn't saying you were ignoring them.
ignore the last hint, and just go with the assumption that the first four lines are absolutely in chronological order, with no switching around. The idea was that you'd think:
"If the first four lines are in chronological order, but they're not in the same order as the WEAPON deaths, then.."
There is only one conclusion, which you did mention.
When you can fight them?
No, we're talking about the specific events that are listed in the riddle. I'm saying each of those events happens in the order I've listed them. BG noted that that's not the order the weapons died in. I agree, that's not the order the weapons die in. Which means the specific events I'm referring to in the riddle...
Well, I've said everything there is that I know of concerning the Weapons and any chronological order pertaining to them. Already knew it wasn't their deaths, and apparently it isn't when they go on the offensive, what order they appear in when they come out of the crater, or the order of when you can fight them, or what order they attack in the game. So mark me confuzzled.
Am I right in saying it is a bloody metaphor and bears little relationship to the actual WEAPONs?
I think they are metaphors for Shinra operatives.
Scarlet and Heidegger are the last two to fall...duh. Emerald and Ruby.
The ultimate might be the President. He leaves a sword. And he was the "ultimate" shinra.
Sapphire must be a Turk or else Cait Siths controller (name will return ina sec).
Yellow must be Palmer! Topaz is therefore hit by a truck.
No where did he say it had nothing to do with the weapons.
and his name is Reeve.
Not every riddle is entirely literal, especially with the best riddlers. Read between the lines. And I think it fits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon Mage
It comes to mind that if the WEAPONs fates are not the answer, the use of their names must be metaphorical, and the Shinras mentioned do have some similarity to the gems, which is mentioned by yer man.