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07-25-2007, 01:05 AM
Miriel

From Mugglenet, which character got the reprieve and a follow up Harry Potter encyclopedia (yay!):

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In an interview with the Today Show, JK Rowling revealed who the character is that received a reprieve in Deathly Hallows. (SPOILER)Arthur Weasley

Additionally, Jo announced that she "probably will" create a Harry Potter encyclopedia! From NBC's website:

The encyclopedia would include back stories of characters she has already written but had to cut for the sake of narrative arc (“I've said before that Dean Thomas had a much more interesting history than ever appeared in the books”), as well as details about the characters who survive “Deathly Hallows,” characters who continue to live on in Rowling’s mind in a clearly defined magical world.

Read entire article HERE.

Such great news! I was soooo unsatisfied with the epilogue, and a encyclopedia detailing what happened afterward would be awesome.
07-25-2007, 01:30 AM
Nominus Experse

Hmm, although I don't much care for the Potter series or universe, this does pique my curiosity.
07-25-2007, 01:33 AM
Comet

(SPOILER)Why are so many people hating the 'Nineteen Years Later' chapter? People shouldn't just say it is 'pathetic' or 'rubbish.' Just because it doesn't have a lot of description of characters, or any information about others, doesn't mean it is pointless. It makes you visualise on your own, and get you thinking about the other characters which were not mentioned. I really hate it when people, for one minute say 'yeah I loved it, it was so great' then follow up on other peoples opinions. Please have a mind of your own...
07-25-2007, 01:36 AM
Araciel

i think people are just upset cause they find it cheesy

but it's the same as in many forms of media and i think it fits, though i could see most of it happening without having read it anyway.
07-25-2007, 02:06 AM
Miriel

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Originally Posted by Comet

(SPOILER)Why are so many people hating the 'Nineteen Years Later' chapter? People shouldn't just say it is 'pathetic' or 'rubbish.' Just because it doesn't have a lot of description of characters, or any information about others, doesn't mean it is pointless. It makes you visualise on your own, and get you thinking about the other characters which were not mentioned. I really hate it when people, for one minute say 'yeah I loved it, it was so great' then follow up on other peoples opinions. Please have a mind of your own...

Why do you care if other people disliked it? I certainly don't care if people loved it. It's personal opinion.

Personally, I hated it because it read like bad fanfiction. Rowling has said so herself that the epilogue was written years ago and I think you can tell that the epilogue just doesn't fit well with the series as a whole. When has she ever written a scene so cheesy, so overloaded with names and people, so eager to be happyhappyeveryonesmile! before? I think it was poorly written.
07-25-2007, 02:08 AM
Comet

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Originally Posted by Miriel

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Originally Posted by Comet

(SPOILER)Why are so many people hating the 'Nineteen Years Later' chapter? People shouldn't just say it is 'pathetic' or 'rubbish.' Just because it doesn't have a lot of description of characters, or any information about others, doesn't mean it is pointless. It makes you visualise on your own, and get you thinking about the other characters which were not mentioned. I really hate it when people, for one minute say 'yeah I loved it, it was so great' then follow up on other peoples opinions. Please have a mind of your own...

Why do you care if other people disliked it? I certainly don't care if people loved it. It's personal opinion.

Personally, I hated it because it read like bad fanfiction. Rowling has said so herself that the epilogue was written years ago and I think you can tell that the epilogue just doesn't fit well with the series as a whole. When has she ever written a scene so cheesy, so overloaded with names and people, so eager to be happyhappyeveryonesmile! before? I think it was poorly written.

Did I say 'I care that people disliked it?' Did I say 'Don't have a personal opinion?'
07-25-2007, 02:10 AM
Miriel

You don't need to get defensive. Your post questioned why people disliked the epilogue and also that you think people "shouldn't" call it rubbish. It sounded like you care.
07-25-2007, 02:13 AM
Comet

Oh, sorry, I think I'm about to get 'defensive.' :)
07-25-2007, 02:20 AM
CloudDragon

The one thing that bothers me most is not knowing who performed magic late in life under desperate circumstances. I'm not convinced it's (SPOILER)Ted Tonks as many people claim over the internet. Can someone look up the passage in OotP? It either says Tonks' mother married a muggle or a muggle born.

I was also a little irked by (SPOILER)Ron being able to open the Chamber of Secrets. I've heard the argument about imitating a different language and it sounding the same. I always got the impression Parseltongue was very rare and it wasn't something you could learn.

Everyone's pretty much covered the deaths. (SPOILER)Dobby's death was the only one that really touched me. Mad-Eye's death touched me a little bit, but Dobby's death was beautifully written. I think I even laughed when Hedwig died. I'm not sure what she was going for there. Fred, Lupin, and Tonks death were just thrown to the side, but I think the way in which they were handled were realistic enough. Giving every important character a drawn out death would be a bit over the top and unrealistic.

Also, (SPOILER)I enjoyed the chapter "King's Cross" with Harry and Dumbledore and the whimpering flayed-skinned child representing Voldemort's soul that was destroyed by Voldemort himself. I think JKR made it a bit too confusing on why Harry was able to come back. In fact, it seems she gave him more than one reason in being able to return. Not only was Harry's blood in Voldy being able to bring him back, but also wouldn't the fact that Voldy was using the wand Harry was the master of also a reason it couldn't kill him? And I'm really interested as to what happened when Voldemort (probably) went unconscious. Did he experienced a similar dream-like state.

I also had no problem with the epilogue. I thoroughly enjoyed this book.
07-25-2007, 02:23 AM
Spiffing Cheese

One thing that's bugging me is (SPOILER)Snape's patronus. I'm assuming that Lily's patronus was a doe, which is why Snape's was (going on the fact that Tonk's patronus became a wolf (presumably, was that ever explicitly stated?)), and how Dumbledore knew he was still in love with Lily, right? It's just that I don't think we ever knew Lily's patronus WAS a doe; were we supposed to know that's what Lily's was due to the fact that James' was a stag? Eurgh, I don't get it. Have I missed something here, or am I just being retarded?
07-25-2007, 02:25 AM
Miriel

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Originally Posted by CloudDragon

I was also a little irked by (SPOILER)Ron being able to open the Chamber of Secrets. I've heard the argument about imitating a different language and it sounding the same. I always got the impression Parseltongue was very rare and it wasn't something you could learn.

About that...

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:D
07-25-2007, 02:30 AM
CloudDragon

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Originally Posted by Spiffing Cheese

One thing that's bugging me is (SPOILER)Snape's patronus. I'm assuming that Lily's patronus was a doe, which is why Snape's was (going on the fact that Tonk's patronus became a wolf (presumably, was that ever explicitly stated?)), and how Dumbledore knew he was still in love with Lily, right? It's just that I don't think we ever knew Lily's patronus WAS a doe; were we supposed to know that's what Lily's was due to the fact that James' was a stag? Eurgh, I don't get it. Have I missed something here, or am I just being retarded?

(SPOILER)We had no idea what Snape or Lily's patronuses were until we read the chapter "The Prince's Tale". Everything was revealed then.

Also I'm going to assume or rather guess that the US cover for TDH was portraying (SPOILER)The final confrontation between Voldy and Harry in the Great Hall when the sun comes up over the horizon, and Harry reaches for the Elder Wand? Anyone else have other ideas?

EDIT: Classic picture.
07-25-2007, 04:05 AM
rubah

Miriel, I lolled. Also (SPOILER)If she wrote the epilogue so long ago, then she knew harry was going to live the whole time, so she DIDN"T give in to her fans like a lot of people have been claming? The ones that just knew harry was a goner?:p
07-25-2007, 04:31 AM
qwertysaur

Also, if the (SPOILER)piece of Voldemorts soul is gone from inside Harry, is he still a parseltongue? Also (SPOILER)Ron probobly spent a long time just trying to mimic open in Parseltounge. Him and Hermione were gone a long time after all.
07-25-2007, 04:57 AM
Madame Adequate

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Originally Posted by CloudDragon

Also, (SPOILER)I enjoyed the chapter "King's Cross" with Harry and Dumbledore and the whimpering flayed-skinned child representing Voldemort's soul that was destroyed by Voldemort himself. I think JKR made it a bit too confusing on why Harry was able to come back. In fact, it seems she gave him more than one reason in being able to return. Not only was Harry's blood in Voldy being able to bring him back, but also wouldn't the fact that Voldy was using the wand Harry was the master of also a reason it couldn't kill him? And I'm really interested as to what happened when Voldemort (probably) went unconscious. Did he experienced a similar dream-like state.

(SPOILER)I also want to know what happened to Voldy at that time, but as far as I could tell, Harry didn't die because of a deus ex machina; i.e. "uncharted areas of magic" which basically means Rowling can do whatever the heck she wants for the sake of where she wants the story to go. That said, I wasn't too bothered by this particular deus ex machina.

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