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No prob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
I just don't think she's hyper sexualized. The problem with using the term "hyper sexualized" is that the word "hyper" denotes a certain amount of relativity, kinda like saying the words "more" or "less" it brings up the question of as opposed to what. In this case, opposed to a buttload of other characters like Bayonetta, or Tifa, or any girl from DOA. She may be incredibly sexualized, but she's not hyper sexualized, if that makes any sense.
That's fair. I think it's weird that you think she's less sexualized than Tifa, but you're right that it's subjective.
Pffft. Nah, I was just using Tifa as a comparison. Tifa is loads less sexualized. I just couldn't come up with another FF heroine off the top of my head. KujaQuote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
Well:Quote:
Originally Posted by CAST VOXI never said any of that. But hey, nice espantajo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aulayna
Considering the bulk of the discussion in this thread is about how her clothing isn't really appropriate for her role, I guess one could be forgiven for understanding your original post as saying such attire was fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by CAST VOX
I'd like to point out that you guys are in your third week of impotent debate about this subject.
We, as Final Fantasy players, are so desensitized to sexually explicit costuming that I doubt anyone on this board actually cares enough about equal representation of the sexes to do anything about this.
Has anyone even tried contacting Square Enix? I hope so, but I doubt it.
If you ever hope someone has done something on behalf of you, yet you haven't done it yourself... :)
The problem with contacting SE is that you have to know japanese. Also, it took them until the success of Bravely Default to realize they had been ignoring an entire section of their consumers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooniest
They are also Japanese. They live in the same country where women need a separate subway due to a groping/blackmail case. And where upskirts and pantyshots are common occurence in media. And where women are ugly after the age of 25.
Also, Japanese developers tend to follow mini-traditions in their developement of games. Ever wondered why Dark Souls 1 and 2 had so many similar themes and events to the old King's Field series? Or why most FF games have giant chickens that came from a long forgotten entry in the series? It's not laziness, they just do what's been done before while adding a small new thing every now and then.
They probably aren't going to take your advice.
My intention in that original post wasn't that her design was fine for the role of a mechanic (it clearly isn't). Just that it was fine overall. I've seen worse, so I didn't react as negatively as you. I also never said it was appropriate day wear. Hence, the espantajo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AulaynaWell:Quote:
Originally Posted by CAST VOXI never said any of that. But hey, nice espantajo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aulayna
Considering the bulk of the discussion in this thread is about how her clothing isn't really appropriate for her role, I guess one could be forgiven for understanding your original post as saying such attire was fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by CAST VOX
I get your point, but I think Kings Field was made by the same company, as well as a PS2 game that had a feudal Japanese theme where you're a demon hunter that played exactly like Dark Souls, and also made by the same company. Demon Souls and Dark Souls is just where it hit mainstream. It doesn't seems surprising that a company would build upon what they've established in the past. But they are indeed obsessed with traditions and the use of tropes more than being progressive, imaginative, or inventive sometimes... possibly most of the time. Especially with their panty shots and underage moe sex goddesses
They are, that was my point. They allude to things they themselves have done before. The development teams have their own little traditions they follow when making a game. The games evolve slowly over time, rather than changing greatly in a single sequel. Megaman X is another good example; in every single game, the first boss is absolutely huge, but goes down like a house of cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyk
Japan and progressiveness are rather funny. It's not that Japan isn't progressing, it's just that they're progressing slowly. Japan is currently marching to the beat of its own drum. They always have. Progress seems to come in fits and spurts for them, rather than a steady stream. Things will change, they just take time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyk
Your doubt is misplaced then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooniest
You emailed them?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupYour doubt is misplaced then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooniest
Outside of that, it has also been noted that some small minority of goons do take note of the goings on inside this and many other Square-Enix-themed forums and webpages. A riot that happens here, especially if its also happening on those, will be noticed. And if it's that large scale, it might even be noticed a little farther up the chain. I imagine it would take something pretty wide-spread to make it to the top, but bitching on a forum is not fruitless. Much to the tune of the Jimquisition video Psychotic posted. Buying a game and having a hissy fit about it means bad press and PR that no company really wants. Having a hissy fit before its even released could actually change things
Several people have written letters. Mine was illustrated in an attempt to be specific and helpful rather than damning. I do hate the notion that "Americans are obsessed with being politically correct" but, like, c'mon... Cids are supposed to be cool! Why'd they have to make her a sex doll? Why? :(
Shlup, what's their address?
Here is a USPS postage calculation for sending a letter to Japan.
(Don't worry, everyone in Japan speaks English)
$5.10 it says.
So there, BoB, I did something. :)
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/company/en/locations/
That shows the address and telephone number of all their main headquarters.