Yeah, I'm not too happy with D2 right now. Lost my Trang'Ouls gloves and armor and my SOJ. :cry:
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Yeah, I'm not too happy with D2 right now. Lost my Trang'Ouls gloves and armor and my SOJ. :cry:
So... I have 29 Perfect Gems and 4 Perfect Skulls...
How do I make these things turn into a SoJ?
You don't. I don't know how many times I explained this, but you trade 40 PGems away for an SoJ.
Or, for any item that you want, for that matter.
Shades...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tavrobel
11 more to go then, I suppose...
EDIT: 9 now
Wow....
Hope you know how to check if a SoJ is fake or not, considering about 70% of all SoJ's are duped and can dissapear at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus ExperseShades...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tavrobel
11 more to go then, I suppose...
Actually... I don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhaoticHope you know how to check if a SoJ is fake or not, considering about 70% of all SoJ's are duped and can dissapear at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus ExperseShades...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tavrobel
11 more to go then, I suppose...
Really, I am quite the n00b in all things online Diablo play. The feasible prospect of obtaining a SoJ is something new to me, so I am stumbling about, as you have noticed.
So, tell me, how exactly does the SoJ come about? Does someone already have it and you trade 40 Pgems for it as a standard form of currency, or is that you simply open a trade menu, trade 40 Pgems for anything, and someone recieves a SoJ? Or what? I am really lost save for one aspect of all this:
Someone gets a SoJ, and many times it's not legit.
You go into the chat and spam Trading 40pgems for SoJ, or make a game called 40Pgems 4 Soj, then someone will come in with a SoJ or reply in chat and you'll do the trade.
To Khaotic:
The amount of duped Non-Ladder SoJs is close to 95%. On Ladder, the figure is closer to 50%. While I don't suggest trading 40 PGems for an SoJ, it's simply goes to show how much value 40 PGems are actually worth. Ladder SoJs disappear within a week, Non-Ladder disappear within the month, depending on how much Blizzard decides to suck on any given day.
Trading SoJs for PGems:
You open the trade menu, and you put in every single one, manually. Of course, you have to make sure that the person has space, and you as well. Most 40 PGem trades are done in private games. Public games requesting to trade away 40 PGems are usually to figure out whether or not the buyer will bite. If, for say, the person wants an SoJ, and someone with an SoJ happens to want 40 PGems, they will open the trade menu, just like any normal trade. There's no mysticism about it. Think of it as a normal trade; it just happens to involve SoJs.
Why 40 Pgems?:
Oddly enough, for such an easily attainable set of items (40PGems), people are willing to trade many nice things for it. I've seen as high as Ber and Jah for 40 PGems, but never Zod. Who knows what people do with 40 PGems after they get it, but it does seem to be acceptable everywhere, with an amorphous value that is almost always acceptable to the person who wants those 40 PGems (like 1990s American money). Maybe they trade something away for the 40 PGems, then they trade for a better item, like say, for instance, player with SoJ trades it away for 40 PGems, then using those 40 PGems, trades it for a higher rune.
History Lesson:
SoJs are duped, because at one point on Battle.net, people would dupe SoJs continuously, and they would stick. If you think about it, pretty valuable, +1 to all skills, +mana, etc. As such, it was not uncommon for someone to have 40 or more SoJs. It was considered "currency," for example, a Harlequin Crest Shako might've been worth might have been worth ten SoJs (I know, right?). When Blizzard finally cracked down on this, they released the 1.10 patch, encouraging people not only to let go of duping, but putting those extra SoJs to use, selling 6000 or more SoJs to vendors, activating Uber-Diablo.
The world is ever-changing:
Nowadays, while value can still be determined in SoJs, it is more popular to count value of item by "hr" meaning "High Runes," such as Cham, Ber, Ist, etc., except Zod, which is the highest, and is therefore, essentially equivalent to two of everything.
Pgems are used for rerolling.
That, too.
They also can be used to increase resistances in Shields, or add MF (if you happen to trade away PTopaz).
Well, not Amethyst.
EDIT: They also upgrade higher end gems.
Can you get highr than 40 PGEMS
Yes, but not with one trade screen. At most, you can hold 80 PGems if I'm not mistaken.
40 Inventory. 40 Stash.
EDIT: Technically, 81; you can quit a game whilst having your mouse pointer holding a Gem.
So the SoJ does not "magically" appear, then, when and if you make a trade involving 40 PGems? One person must start with it then? 40 PGems are basically, for some odd reason, a form of currency equivalent to 1 SoJ?
I just want to be sure, because for some reason, I was thinking that one could simply trade 30 PGems and then a SoJ would magically show up. I read/heard/saw/thought this when I was recovering from surgery and infections blah blah blah at the time though...
No, the SoJ must be an actual quantity that is owned by one of the participating members (duped, or legitimate).
40 PGems are worth anything from 2Os'd equipment, to the second highest rune, Cham.
Weirdly, trading away 30 PGems will not get you anywhere close to what you want as compared to acually having all 40 PGems, and you will get eternally laughed off of Battle.net if you did attempt to only use 30.