ff7 riddles

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAsh

I know its not my riddle, but can other people start breaking down their reasoning? That way correct lines of thinking can be identified rather than repeatedly taking stabs in the dark...

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I agree. I can only comment accurately on your thoughts if I see them spelled out. Just posting one comment for each line or stanza can prove really helpful, even if one has no finished guess.

The riddle
No arms I provide, no rest
I'm an option in between
I will put you to a test
in favour of the green

But I'll help you too, don't fret!
A heaven's grant might be of use
Aggregate power you will get
You haven't got much to lose!

So come on, warrior, heed the call!
Though you by coming here
before death's peace build thrice a wall
there is no need to fear.

Wrong answers
Battle Arena
Any of the WEAPONs
The Weaponsmith near Gongaga
Ancient Forest
Sunken Gelnika
(The cave of) The Sleeping Man
The Position Marker (pointing hand)
Green Beret
The Pagoda in Wutai
The person in charge of the Fort Condor battles
Titan materia/summon
Aeris' "hairbeadthing" :p
Excavation Site
Gold Saucer

Hints
The answer is a location which is optional to visit.
Only one of the lines is purely metaphorical.
"A heaven's grant" is very literal.

i think its the digsite or golden saucer!

No, neither.

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Originally Posted by Darth Tjador

i think its the digsite or golden saucer!

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Rantzien said the location is optional to visit. Visiting the Gold Saucer & Bone Village are compulsory.

Edit: Is it the Rocket Town materia shop? Where you can buy Barrier materia?

Edit #2: Um, my reason is... no arms to provide - I'm assuming is armour, as you can't buy armour there? & no rest because you can't rest in a materia shop. Um... it's optional to go in the shop & the Barrier materia is green. The heaven's grant & aggregate power makes me think it is materia. Not sure about the rest, but thrice a wall reminds me of Barrier, MBarrier & Wall.

Is it Tifa's room in Nibelheim?

I think it's the battle with Proud Clod. I'm not sure if it was optional or not, but I thought you could avoid it by going a different way (not sure). My reasoning is, you get no rest in the middle of the battle, and Heideggier(or whatever) wears green.

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Originally Posted by Seal Evil

Is it the Rocket Town materia shop? Where you can buy Barrier materia?

Edit #2: Um, my reason is... no arms to provide - I'm assuming is armour, as you can't buy armour there? & no rest because you can't rest in a materia shop. Um... it's optional to go in the shop & the Barrier materia is green. The heaven's grant & aggregate power makes me think it is materia. Not sure about the rest, but thrice a wall reminds me of Barrier, MBarrier & Wall.

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It's not the Materia shop in Rocket Town. "Heaven's grant" does not refer to a materia, however, "aggregate power" does. "Thrice a wall" has nothing to do with any magic.

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Originally Posted by Comet

Is it Tifa's room in Nibelheim?

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No.

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Originally Posted by belkor_teh_magnificent

I think it's the battle with Proud Clod. I'm not sure if it was optional or not, but I thought you could avoid it by going a different way (not sure). My reasoning is, you get no rest in the middle of the battle, and Heideggier(or whatever) wears green.

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No, not the Proud Clod battle. The "No arms I provide, no rest" works alone as a clue, but most things don't provide arms or rest. The line is only really helpful when you follow up with the second line. Also, remember that the test mentioned is "in favour of the green". Heidegger is hardly in favour by the battle ;)

Argh... *Pulls hair out* This is hard! *Pokes you with Guard Stick*

Aggregate power refers to materia, hmm? So, at this optional place you will get materia? Hmm... in favour of green... chocobo? Is the heaven's grant the Highwind?!

Is it the Wutai materia cave??? :eek:

give us another hint if its wrong!

Easy, it's Vincent Valentine.
Need to know why?

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No arms I provide, no rest
I'm an option in between
I will put you to a test
in favour of the green

But I'll help you too, don't fret!
A heaven's grant might be of use
Aggregate power you will get
You haven't got much to lose!

So come on, warrior, heed the call!
Though you by coming here
before death's peace build thrice a wall
there is no need to fear.

I don't think Vincent Valentine is a location.

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Originally Posted by Seal Evil

I don't think Vincent Valentine is a location.

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....ok
Vincent Valentine in his coffin.

No arms I provide, no rest - Helping hand as optional, he never sleeps in his covin
I'm an option in between - Optional Character
I will put you to a test - Ask a question
in favour of the green - Only to Barret 'if Barret is in your team, he'll ask a question

But I'll help you too, don't fret! - Ally
A heaven's grant might be of use - He's a beast
Aggregate power you will get - Get his powers
You haven't got much to lose! - More character, nothing to loose

So come on, warrior, heed the call! - Cloud, come to Vincent
Though you by coming here - Your main reason wasn't Vincent but you did came here
before death's peace build thrice a wall - behind the wall, were Vincent Lies
there is no need to fear. - He is dark and mysterious, but friendly.


So yeah, it's Vincent Valentine in his coffin.

^ Ahhh, yeah it sounds good. Although I think mine does too. :D LOL. ...Wouldn't be surprised if they're both wrong! But what do you mean about the Barret thing relating to in favour of the green? That's the only bit I didn't understand.

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Originally Posted by Seal Evil

Argh... *Pulls hair out* This is hard! *Pokes you with Guard Stick*

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*Steals Guard Stick*

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Originally Posted by Seal Evil

Aggregate power refers to materia, hmm? So, at this optional place you will get materia? Hmm... in favour of green... chocobo? Is the heaven's grant the Highwind?!

Is it the Wutai materia cave??? :eek:

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Nope. :) The heaven's grant is also not the Highwind (more literal, even), and "green" is not the Green Chocobo. Maybe look up alternate meanings of "green"?

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Originally Posted by Darth Tjador

give us another hint if its wrong!

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"before death's peace build thrice a wall" is metaphorical. The rest of the lines are literal.

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Originally Posted by Hyperion4444

Easy, it's Vincent Valentine.

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Not even close ;)

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Originally Posted by Hyperion4444

Vincent Valentine in his coffin.

No arms I provide, no rest - Helping hand as optional, he never sleeps in his covin
I'm an option in between - Optional Character
I will put you to a test - Ask a question
in favour of the green - Only to Barret 'if Barret is in your team, he'll ask a question

But I'll help you too, don't fret! - Ally
A heaven's grant might be of use - He's a beast
Aggregate power you will get - Get his powers
You haven't got much to lose! - More character, nothing to loose

So come on, warrior, heed the call! - Cloud, come to Vincent
Though you by coming here - Your main reason wasn't Vincent but you did came here
before death's peace build thrice a wall - behind the wall, were Vincent Lies
there is no need to fear. - He is dark and mysterious, but friendly.


So yeah, it's Vincent Valentine in his coffin.

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Still not right. You're thinking far too metaphorically, except for the next to last line, where you're not being metaphorical enough.

Here's a few hints:
The word "aggregate" even tells you what materia it's referring to.
"there is no need to fear" is (arguably) the least important line, it's mostly there for rhyme and rhythm. Otherwise, basically every line and word counts for something more than it says.

The Place where u find the Shield materia in the final dungeon