is Sephiroth the best bad guy in the series?

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Originally Posted by The Crystal

Sephiroth did many cool things too. He burned a village full of inocent people, he killed everyone inside the building that was the HQ of the most powerfull corporation in the world(and killed the president of it), after you almost died fighting the Midgar Zolom(for the first time) you discover that Sephiroth killed it AND impaled it on a tree like it was nothing, he could create illusions to trick people, was capable of controlling Jenova with only the power of his will, killed a playable character, summoned Meteor and created fear in all the population of the world, everyone that was killed by the Weapons and everything that they destroyed is Sephiroth's fault because the Weapons are free BECAUSE of him(even if this wasn't part of his original plan), hold Holly(one of the most powerful magic in the world) with only the power of his will, his Meteor destroyed Midgar(and released the Deep Ground Soldiers of their prison), he "poisoned" the entire world with Geostigma, etc.

Who say that Sephiroth only burned a village, killed a flower girl, and summoned a meteor, have to play the game again(and watch AC).

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This is exactly what I was talking about. You give all these great reasons as to why Sephiroth is a great villain. All of these things here are very good and true and really convince me to what you are saying.

Chris, I've never seen you actually elaborate on anything that you have said about Sephiroth. In fact, it seemed that you have been trying to tell everybody why Sephiroth was great for the past ten pages. Well, actually, you hardly did anything except act all predictable fanboyish like while other people like "The Crystal" were the ones who were actually trying to argue why Sephiroth was great. I have no problem with people posting their opinions, but you are just doing the same opinionated and biased posts again and again. It's not like you see me or anybody else who posted saying: "Kuja is the #1 villain because that's what I think and it must be true." (OK, there have been a few, but they didn't do it repeatedly.)

And by the way, I do think Sephiroth is a great villain, (but not as good as Kefka or Kuja) just not blindly.

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Originally Posted by PuPu

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Originally Posted by The Crystal

Sephiroth did many cool things too. He burned a village full of inocent people, he killed everyone inside the building that was the HQ of the most powerfull corporation in the world(and killed the president of it), after you almost died fighting the Midgar Zolom(for the first time) you discover that Sephiroth killed it AND impaled it on a tree like it was nothing, he could create illusions to trick people, was capable of controlling Jenova with only the power of his will, killed a playable character, summoned Meteor and created fear in all the population of the world, everyone that was killed by the Weapons and everything that they destroyed is Sephiroth's fault because the Weapons are free BECAUSE of him(even if this wasn't part of his original plan), hold Holly(one of the most powerful magic in the world) with only the power of his will, his Meteor destroyed Midgar(and released the Deep Ground Soldiers of their prison), he "poisoned" the entire world with Geostigma, etc.

Who say that Sephiroth only burned a village, killed a flower girl, and summoned a meteor, have to play the game again(and watch AC).

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This is exactly what I was talking about. You give all these great reasons as to why Sephiroth is a great villain. All of these things here are very good and true and really convince me to what you are saying.

Chris, I've never seen you actually elaborate on anything that you have said about Sephiroth. In fact, it seemed that you have been trying to tell everybody why Sephiroth was great for the past ten pages. Well, actually, you hardly did anything except act all predictable fanboyish like while other people like "The Crystal" were the ones who were actually trying to argue why Sephiroth was great. I have no problem with people posting their opinions, but you are just doing the same opinionated and biased posts again and again. It's not like you see me or anybody else who posted saying: "Kuja is the #1 villain because that's what I think and it must be true." (OK, there have been a few, but they didn't do it repeatedly.)

And by the way, I do think Sephiroth is a great villain, (but not as good as Kefka or Kuja) just not blindly.

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Well, to say the truth, i'm not 100% sure if what i said about Deep Ground was right. Some people say that Meteor released them, but other people say the contrary. I tried to edit the post, but for some reason, the "edit" link wasn't there anymore.

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Originally Posted by chrisfffan

Posted by Goldenboco

Um, yeah he does
Kefka downed 8+ Espers FACT
Kuja demolished a world (the extant can be argued but he demoed some of it at least) FACT
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Kuja/Kefka/Sephiroth/etc. is really cool and was great OPINION
but if it was said like this...
Kuja/Kefka/Sephiroth/etc.'s acts through out the game potray that he is insane which makes him a better villian FACT (as long as the acts are listed.



Ok I could say that because Sephiroth killed the only playable character in the series that makes him the must ruthless villain but its just a opinion.

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Please STOP BRINGING UP DEAD PARTY MEMBERS! I've already told you (SPOILER)Tellah is in FFIV. Not to mention deaths in FFV, and possibly VI depending if you wait for Shadow.... I forgot to wait for Shadow... he went bye-bye :crying2::crying2::crying2::crying2:

To be fair, the antagonists in those games only indirectly kill those PCs. Galuf is the only real player character (not including Leo, since he was only a 'guest' character) that I can think of to meet his end at the hands of the main villain pre-FFVII.

Somehow I think the villian is more evil if they kill random NPCs and unnamed townspeople, because they are 'innocent' people. What I mean by that, is that the PCs are trying to kill said villian, so, in self-defence, they would kill the PC. But the NPCs never did anything against the villain, so it seems slightly more evil to kill innocent NPCs than slightly less innocent PCs.

Remember, the above paragraph is an OPINION. Not FACT.

And I think that if a villain kills a party member it has more of a effect on a game then random people because you don’t know them or their story and as somebody else said he didn’t just kill one person he left that town in flames killed the head of shinra and a lot of other people.

Well, both Sephiroth and Kuja ar the coolest bad guys if you ask me.. But that lame Seymour from FFX is really horrible.. He's got this, strange sissy voice and he looks like a bad ripoff of Sephiroth..

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Originally Posted by Orgasmic

Well, both Sephiroth and Kuja ar the coolest bad guys if you ask me.. But that lame Seymour from FFX is really horrible.. He's got this, strange sissy voice and he looks like a bad ripoff of Sephiroth..

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yea he is horrible his voice is really weird image having that voice! ha ha i think that theirs only 3 that can claim to be the best bad guy in the series

in no order
1. Sephiroth
2. Kuja
3. Kefla is that his name?

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Originally Posted by chrisfffan

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Originally Posted by Orgasmic

Well, both Sephiroth and Kuja ar the coolest bad guys if you ask me.. But that lame Seymour from FFX is really horrible.. He's got this, strange sissy voice and he looks like a bad ripoff of Sephiroth..

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yea he is horrible his voice is really weird image having that voice! ha ha i think that theirs only 3 that can claim to be the best bad guy in the series

in no order
1. Sephiroth
2. Kuja
3. Kefla is that his name?

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His name is Kefka. And latelly, i'm hearing some people say that Vayne is a very good villain too.

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His name is Kefka. And latelly, i'm hearing some people say that Vayne is a very good villain too.

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Vane rooney? xD

I do believe Sephiroth is the greatest most perfect villan in the FF series for reasons way too long to explain and if any one thinks another one's better, well i challenge them to say what's so great about them!

Ugh, since I just joined this forum Im incredibly late to the party, but I agree with Sephiroth being up there... Kuja was pretty good too, and I loved the plot twist near the end of FF IX so that helps.. Kuja lacked the "big final boss monster" form though, which leads to that random Necron encounter, oh well

Ultimecia is up there too, although its the villain that gets the least air time in the whole series :P but still.. I love time related stuff and 1 - her castle kicks ass 2 - the final battle is awesome and the music rocks :)

FF IX garland was a very nice "villain", shame he wasnt the main one

Kefka was ridiculous, nuff said

No 1 can really top sephy, i havent played ff6 or ff9, but i heard that they've got good main villains as well.

i just love watching Cloud and Sephiroth go head to head..so much passion and conflict between the two characters!!!

god i thought this thread was dead ages go it just keeps on going...........................................................

no....just, no. He has been sooooooo overrated that he just loses the appeal.