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Sometime I like looking back on the very first episode. It's so nice seeing all the Starks in one place (and alive).
Great episode!
The wall part was good, though I would rather have seen them progress a bit further with that story instead of saying goodbye to Ygritte a second time and that.
The Daenerys parts are definitely starting to drag on, but at the same they almost always tell a very important part of her story. I imagine they can only hurry her story so much without putting her out of sync with the rest of the world, too.
Bran's part was great. Kinda wish they would've stuck to more semi-decayed humans rather than skeletons for the wights, and I would have loved to see the Three-Eyed Raven more tree-like and interwoven with the branches, but those are minor nitpicks.
Brienne vs. Sandor was an AWESOME fight! I didn't see it coming either, and I didn't know who to root for (though I had an inkling how they'd tie it together with the book story), and dat choreography! One of my favourite fight scenes from the show so far, I think. I liked the scene after between Arya and Sandor, too. Say what you will about Arya's story so far, but she has some of most interesting character development in the show. That was a pretty damn cold move.
Tyrion's part was everything I wanted from it, really. Sure, I could nitpick here too, but overall I think they did this incredibly well. As some others have mentioned, I'm also curious what they'll do with Tyrion's character from now on, considering the parts they left out. Curious in an excited way, though!
I'm not bothered by them leaving the book spoilerLady Stoneheart scene for later. I was expecting them to squeeze it in, and it would have been a cool scene to end on, but the episode was action-packed enough. Arya's scene was a nice note to end on.
I forgot about the way they had the wights before in Season One. I don't think it would be much of a stretch to have both. We don't know how long those bodies has been buried in the snow and that is ultimately what happens to a corpse. The wights we've seen before wasn't dead for that long unless there's something I'm forgetting.
Tywin be like:
sittin' on da toilet
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Man that was a great episode.
The saddest part was the dragons in chains :whimper:
My only and single issue with this episode is that there was so much of it that was good that I just wanted more and more and more. Every aspect of it was superb and satisfying and it feels nice to just get a brief respite from everything in plot terms as several plots have reached a conclusion and new ones are starting up in their wake.
Book SpoilersI am surprised that Lady Stoneheart wasn't revealed because it seemed like the really obvious time to do it but then again this episode had Children of the Forest with actual fireballs and The Hound and Brienne fighting and Tywin on the privy and oh man.
*looks at sig* Mister Adequate, were those your skeletons that attacked Bran? :mymelbert:
I'm not so much concerned about that, I just always find skeletons to make for pretty silly-looking and immersion-breaking enemies. I can't really take them seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJ
I can see that. Especially after Castlevania 64 >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by RantzI'm not so much concerned about that, I just always find skeletons to make for pretty silly-looking and immersion-breaking enemies. I can't really take them seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJ
The Spooky Scary Skeletons, you might say!
Well I do want Meera Reed for myself but nah, we were busy partying in Qohor
Dear book people: You know why the show creators didn't put in the scene you were expecting? Because you were expecting it. You overhyped the trout out of it too. Knock that trout off. It makes complete sense to push that scene back since big spoilerLady Stoneheart doesn't do trout for a good long time after being revealed. Shut your smurfing faceholes about it.
I am concerned, though, about the way they trimmed the scene between Tyrion and Jaime. They were supposed to have a conversation that was very significant for the development of both of their characters, and now that Tywin's dead and Tyrion's on a ship I don't know how they'll make up for it. Click if you want to know what was missing.Tyrion's motivation in the next season should be finding Tysha, his wife from when he was young, after Jaime confesses she really wasn't a whore. Tyrion asks Tywin about it while he's on the pooper and want to know where she is, to which Tywin tells her "Wherever whores go," which motivates Tyrion to search for her. Out of anger over Jaime's confession, Tyrion tells Jaime that Cersei's been sleeping around, after Jaime has been faithful to her all this time. I really love Jaime and Tyrion's relationship; it's makes Jaime so complex to be the kind of guy who pushes children out of windows but loves his baby brother.
Also, the re-characterization of Shae made her murder really, really dark. In the books she was just some stupid whore who deserved to be choked to death.
I'm not complaining about the changes; just noting them.
I thought they did a fabulous job overall though. I love that they dragged out Arya and the Hound's adventures and added an interaction with Brienne; it was really great. I was looking forward to Arya's next adventure for a long time, but she really did need to have her storyline drawn out a bit longer, and adding more Hound was a great choice.
And I just loved Cersei this episode. She may be a bumblesmurf when it comes to wanting and having power, but as a mother she does not smurf around.
Great season ending!
Tyrions part was great. i know some spoilers but they didnt happen yet, like i expected they would...
makes it even more exciting!
Putting this in a spoiler because I have little faith in my memory don't click unless you clicked Shlup's spoiler alreadyDidn't Tyrion mention Cersei sleeping around when they were talking in his cell a few episodes prior?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup