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Originally Posted by Frostwake
You fail and you do in the most miserable way that it isn't even funny. It really is pointless to respond to your arguments any further because you've already proven that you don't know what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake, Original Post
Actually, YOU failed to understand... If you read carefully, I say the FF I plot lacks in BOTH quotes.. its barely even there actually.. 4 light warriors save the world yay... BUT the thing is the gameplay more than makes up for it, while I didnt find the FF VI gameplay to be one bit fun, and so it carries on to the story to make up for it, since I didnt like it either, there you have itQuote:
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Originally Posted by Frostwake
You fail and you do in the most miserable way that it isn't even funny. It really is pointless to respond to your arguments any further because you've already proven that you don't know what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake, Original Post
Final Fantasy VI is, according to you, the "one of the worst" Final Fantasy games, you cite your reasons for this. In the very same post, you say the storyline is better than Final Fantasy I. This makes absolutely no sense unless you are the type of person who does not play RPGs for their storyline. You state that Final Fantasy VI has a plot that is "100% predictable" and then go on to ask how Kefka became the main villian when there were clear signs that he was going to play a very important role in the story. Are you going to address this at all or simply ignore it, hoping everyone forgets how ignorant the statement was in the first place?
My gripe with your post is you are saying the gameplay for Final Fantasy I more than makes up for its lack of story. Yet the story in Final Fantasy VI, which by your own admittance is far exceeding the original Final Fantasy, does not make up for its lack of gameplay. You are condemning Final Fantasy VI because it lacks something one of your favorite Final Fantasy games has and has something one of your favorite Final Fantasy games lacks.
I don't understand how FFI had amazing gameplay to make up for lack of story. If you were not a mage, all you did was fight. And if you were a mage, you had... 5 casts of a spell then you had to fight doing no damage. Gameplay wise, there was no diversity in FFI. Not that it wasn't fun for an old school game, but how can that simple, with no real choices gameplay, make up for a non existent story, while FFVI, with character customization with espers, relics, special equipment, and special moves making themm all unique, not make up for a supposed "bad" story of FFVI, which is still superior to FFI. I can't say I've honestly heard ANYONE say that FFI had better gameplay than any later FF. It by far had the worst gameplay of the series, because there really were no options. Of course that changed immediately with FFII.
THE JACKEL
FF VI is leet because of the purple naked lady. :bigsmile:
Oh... how stupid!... is it important the way u laugh???... or u laugh like a symphonic orquesta to say that Kefka shouldn't laugh that way???... what a stupid thing... that doesn't matter, and anyway, is well justified on the game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake
Oh... plz... u really know how to read???... if u do... plz, could u read the lines of the game???... i have to tell u that FF games has some blue boxes (if didn't changed the color)... those blue boxes are text boxes... yeah... those text boxes have (guess what!)... TEXT... yeah!... now, u go like a good boy, and play the game again... but this time, u read the text boxes i told u... ok??? =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake
Lol... u write stupid things, u get stupid answer...
but ok... now, seriously, PLZ READ!!!... if u know how to read!!!...
Could u call brainless Kafka, and Nietzsche, and people like that???...
Then read my post if u didn't... there is something behind Kefka that u didn't understood... there is great part of the concept of the game!!!... Philosophy!... that is not brainless, if u know what it is... (u could look at a dictionary or Asking google...)
Really, i think u are the kind of "player" (lol, "player") who plays RPG games skipping all the text cuz u find it boring and only play mechanicaly the battles, and then u say "Ehem, i play RPGs and i have played all FFs"...
U said what a poor excuse of a villain about Kefka, i say what a poor excuse of a player, about u...
That's the only way i can understand that u find FF6 almost the worst and FF1 almost the best... ¬¬' (it's not about personal vision, it's about common sense)...
Sorry... if now i have been some offensive, i really didn't want to, but i got angry cuz i wrote u a long-long-long post and u didn't read it...!
Lol... this one is really funny! xD...Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake
How can u say FFVII started it all...??? didn't u read what i posted before???... really don't make me write all that again... my fingers are kinda exhausted... xD
I'll tell u just this right now, u have to evaluate thinking on the aspects that surrounded the game at the time it was released...
I told u all those things that were innovation when in the SNES age FF6 appeared (wait wait!... did u played the FFs from the SNES or u just played the PSX versions???... don't tell me... are u one of those shallow minded little teenagers who only play play station games and don't have any idea than most of the games they play were first released by Nintendo???... lol xD)... anyways... when FF6 was released, the games that were on the SNES catalog were saying WoW! (not World of Warcraft, lol no xD...)... they were saying wow!... impressed by the innovation and the great graphics and music and all those things this game had... When FF7 was released, there were just lots of other games with better and worst graphics, there were lots of 3D games, and there were lots of RPGs with non-linear storylines, et-cétera...
FF6 used at the highest the power of the SNES, while FF7 could have use more power of the PS...
And hey!... i prefer 8368236487324 times a 2D game with graphic enhancement that can look almost perfect... than a 3D game with poor repetitive tiles of an ambient and square looking sprites... or blocky, like someone said before...
So don't tell me FF7 started it all...
FF1 started it all about FFs, and FF6 started it all about innovation and taking FF to other places...
U are exagerating here... it's ok... we all know is easy... u are not telling us the great new!... but don't underestimate it so much, u have to think that it's ok, enemies receive lots of damage, u make a lot of damage, and enemies have high HPs... but don't forget that according with that there are enemies who make lots damage too... c'mon!, u can't say u never died when u played it (if u really played it)... u can't say that never got killed by a Brachosaur bite or by one of those Ninjas who threw lots of Ashura, Murasame, and those... u can't say u didn't die in the Fanatics tower and said some bad words againts Magimaster, u can't say u didn't spent a night (or a long time) putting the hour at the clock on Zozo, and asking so much people to clews for that... unless u were playing with a guide... what would have been really pathetic...Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake
That is kinda personal, but i don't hate those games. I just think they are to shallow, with poor stories. I think the people at Square today forget the deep concept and great story that a RPG have to tell us, by trying to make great graphics and great movies that would make u think u are playing a great game... and of course, i have a personal little despise to those ignorant emo shallow minded little teenagers who says Playstation is the only console and don't have any idea about the existence of Nintendo and Atari and old systems, and the games that were first from those systems... they say Nintendo is just for little kids and then fell all grown when they say it, but they don't know the most of the games they play are remakes or sequels from Nintendo (and other old systems) games... ok... it's ok, they aren't from the Atari, NES and SNES age, but that doesn't mean they don't have to respect and accept the pixelated elders... I hope u aren't one of these...Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake
Oh!... another thing!...
U contradicted when u said Kefka=random villain, and then said that all was predictible... ¬¬'
I really think u don't have good reasons...
Maybe u just came here for ur 15 minutes of fame trying to make a thread that would receive lot of posts... ¬¬'
:nonono:
PS:Sorry if i'm offending someone... I try to not do it...
Oh my this arguement is a mess...
FFVI and FFVII are my two favorites, and you can't deny that everything about FFVIII, by FF standards, sucks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake
I'm not going to try and change your oppinions, but just hear me out on this:
Your logic is very confusing:
Your first arguement is that FFVI's storyline sucks.
It is impossible to compare FFV with FFVI and not see the giant leap ahead that Square took with FFVI. It was the first to have a cinematic storyline and focus on the characters more than on gameplay. The story was ten times better and more believeable than FFV's. (By saying it was believeable I'm mean that it moved much more smoothly.) The characters were much further developed and interacted with each other more than ever before. And you can't say that FFVI was predictable either.
Now FFV was predictable, aside from the (SPOILER)"omg there's two worlds" thing. It's just predictable that everything will go wrong for the 4 warriors until the villian gets all-powerful and they manage to kill him. (I'm not saying that FFV is bad, but that's just the way it is.)
Faced with this response, your second arguement is that FFVI "isn't hard enough"
Well Just like FFVI, your beloved FFVII is super super easy. FFVII isn't the only game with difficult optional bosses, pal. FFVI has the 8 dragons, whatever that beast is that you unlock by beating them (I never did but...), doomgaze, the Weapon at Kefka's tower... Although these may not be as difficult as the ones from FFVII, there are plenty of them.
So if you still are not satisfied, you can't blame it on FFVI. You can just blame it on your love for level-grinding over story. or worse.
Consider the timeframe of FFI, back then you where lucky to have any story at all, it shows you are far too spoiled of a gamer.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostwakeActually, YOU failed to understand... If you read carefully, I say the FF I plot lacks in BOTH quotes.. its barely even there actually.. 4 light warriors save the world yay... BUT the thing is the gameplay more than makes up for it, while I didnt find the FF VI gameplay to be one bit fun, and so it carries on to the story to make up for it, since I didnt like it either, there you have itQuote:
Originally Posted by BunnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake
You fail and you do in the most miserable way that it isn't even funny. It really is pointless to respond to your arguments any further because you've already proven that you don't know what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostwake, Original Post
I have problems understanding how anyone can actually like FF1's gameplay. It was like mental torture to me, I only played the game because it is the original FF.
Or Necron. He was more random than Ultimecia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takara
Yep. Certain aspects were good, but dear god it was slow and torturous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
Years of therapy gone to waste. I was successful at not remembering that stain on FFIX's otherwise spotless awesomeness until now.:cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Poetically PatheticOr Necron. He was more random than Ultimecia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takara
Is this you??? Seriously, is it?
http://they.misled.us/archives/318
Sounds like you
I love how the main two people arguing here each bashed the two best games in the series in Six and Seven. Such worthwile opinions we have here.
Where's that retard running picture when I need it?
Reading my last post I guess I should also clarify something. I don't actually hate the later titles (O.K. maybe FFX-2 :rolleyes2 ) I'm disappointed with them cause each had such great potential, but each one always seems to make some major mistake that hinders my ability to love them. The only title I come close to really hating is FFX but I cannot forgive it for it's bad writing and the fact that it's more of an interactive movie than an actual game.
Overall, I don't feel that the later titles are bad, just not "The Bestest best game ever!!!!" as some people would say. I believe they are all good games (even X, when the game decides you can actually play:rolleyes2 ) If I have anything against VII, it's more towards it's fans than it's creators cause they pretty much told Squenix that they don't mind convulated bull:skull::skull::skull::skull: plots as long as the game has a lousy love story, and the main character looks cool. I don't hate VII, VIII, and X (I really like IX) I just feel they are overrated.