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Originally Posted by IBCrayZ
no what:confused:
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Originally Posted by IBCrayZ
no what:confused:
Dr. Unne made a joke?..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Unne
Satan is among us indeed.
It can be something you're born with that is evident from a young age, something you're born with that's latent, or a way your brain develops as a defense mechanism, usually as a result of abuse.
According to everything I've ever studied ever.
also slight mental inbalances passed on through genes can cause a persons brain to develop a certain way...for example homosexua...I also think deppresion...and "emo'ism" can be connected to thisQuote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I know less about how hormones play a part in it but it must because sexual attractions can be brought on by chemical signals...
Everything you said would fall under the categories I've described. Though I think your opinion, as it's presented, is pretty base. Which isn't meant to be an insult though it probably sounds like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyromaniacalso slight mental inbalances passed on through genes can cause a persons brain to develop a certain way...for example homosexua...I also think deppresion...and "emo'ism" can be connected to thisQuote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I know less about how hormones play a part in it but it must because sexual attractions can be brought on by chemical signals...
yeh, you talked about how its affected by both nature and nurture...birth/abuseQuote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuackEverything you said would fall under the categories I've described. Though I think your opinion, as it's presented, is pretty base. Which isn't meant to be an insult though it probably sounds like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyromaniacalso slight mental inbalances passed on through genes can cause a persons brain to develop a certain way...for example homosexua...I also think deppresion...and "emo'ism" can be connected to thisQuote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I know less about how hormones play a part in it but it must because sexual attractions can be brought on by chemical signals...
and I went a tiny bit more in on bieng born with it but Yeah...it was pretty base? i dont exactly know what you mean by base but I get the feeling thats right...
and the reason it sounds insulting is the word base...sounds like a very rude word the way I read it...sounds like ...kinda like the word jack...just makes me angry
How do you define "homosexuality" in the context of what you studied? Is it someone who has sex with people of the same gender? Or someone who has a predisposition to have sex with people of the same gender? Or is it more than sex acts, and also includes some level of romantic emotional attachment to people of the same gender? Or is it anyone who identifies himself/herself as a homosexual? Or something else?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
It seems surprising that the only ways to be homosexual are to be born predisposed to it, or to take it up as self-defense. Or were you only giving the most common examples?
It seems like there must be some number of people (even if it's a minority) who decide to try out some gay sex for some reason, say imitation of peer behavior to try to become part of some peer group, or trying it randomly out of curiosity. And then decide they like it for some reason, or grow to like it. Even if they're predisposed to be heterosexual. Would these people be called homosexuals, or "heterosexuals who happen to engage in homosexual behavior"?
What about homosexuality in prisons as another example? That seems like learned behavior but for very different reasons than self-defense. It's more an act of aggression or dominance, right? (It might be self-defense for you if a big guy says to you "Either I own you now, or I kill you now", but I think that's a different kind of self-defense than what you meant.)
Do I sound like I know what I'm talking about? Because I sure don't.
You don't always have to know what you're talking about if your only asking questions...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr UnneHow do you define "homosexuality" in the context of what you studied? Is it someone who has sex with people of the same gender? Or someone who has a predisposition to have sex with people of the same gender? Or is it more than sex acts, and also includes some level of romantic emotional attachment to people of the same gender? Or is it anyone who identifies himself/herself as a homosexual? Or something else?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
It seems surprising that the only ways to be homosexual are to be born predisposed to it, or to take it up as self-defense. Or were you only giving the most common examples?
It seems like there must be some number of people (even if it's a minority) who decide to try out some gay sex for some reason, say imitation of peer behavior to try to become part of some peer group, or trying it randomly out of curiosity. And then decide they like it for some reason, or grow to like it. Even if they're predisposed to be heterosexual. Would these people be called homosexuals, or "heterosexuals who happen to engage in homosexual behavior"?
What about homosexuality in prisons as another example? That seems like learned behavior but for very different reasons than self-defense. It's more an act of aggression or dominance, right? (It might be self-defense for you if a big guy says to you "Either I own you now, or I kill you now", but I think that's a different kind of self-defense than what you meant.)
Do I sound like I know what I'm talking about? Because I sure don't.
You.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Unne
Yeah, totally went there.
[Doing too much homework to participate in meaningful discussion.]
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Originally Posted by Pyromaniacno what:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by IBCrayZ
No that.Quote:
Thanks you guys, you all proved me wrong since the debate I was picked to argue was that people WERE born homosexual =.=
Yeah I'm bored with this topic now...it is in my opinion obviously a mix of both and if anything the question should be which people would argue has more of an effect...Quote:
Originally Posted by IBCrayZQuote:
Originally Posted by Pyromaniacno what:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by IBCrayZ
No that.Quote:
Thanks you guys, you all proved me wrong since the debate I was picked to argue was that people WERE born homosexual =.=
In that case I would say nurture...Ill leave my opinion at that
Nature with a small percentage of nurture. Homosexual couples that adopt/have children are not more likey to have homosexual children. People in different communities are no less likely to be homosexual. Whether or not they choose to show it is their prerogative. Homosexuality occurs in nature with several species of animals. Off the top of my head, I can think of penguins and giraffes.
Similar to prison rape, homosexuality can be sometimes be "forced" upon animals in captivity by not allowing them a mate of the opposite sex (and not neutering them).
I think you're just born placed on the Kinsey Scale (or whatever made-up measurement of your choice) already. I was knitting little pink hats as a fetus. It's all part of my gay magicks.
And therein is the point. I can't say for 100% accuracy that I was born gay, but I'm about 95% sure of that fact. There was no real point in time that I had any desire to be with a girl, so it stands to reason. The nurture comes in more, IMHO, as to whether you embrace that part of yourself, or work for the rest of your life to sublimate your desires.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrojtm
Gee thanks psychology queen. Completely forgot that almost all actions and tendencies can be acquired after birth, including sexual orientation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
Anyway, thanks to this being in GC I can now say that I am very pleased with Dr Unne's mocking post xD