Why was that Sephiroth fellow there?

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Originally Posted by The Crystal

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Originally Posted by sephireland

FF VII without Sephiroth is like Jaws without the shark. The one thing that bothered me was the fact that he basically came into the game to have a fight and lose. This is an awful waste of a great character. I think if he'd come into the movie earlier and done some terrible things to Midgar and it's people it would've been a much better movie. And it would've made the stakes higher when Cloud and Sephiroth finally face off.

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But he did. Geostigma and the three "brothers" existed only because of him. He was fuc*ing the entire world(killing people and corrupting the Lifestream) during 2 years. This is very clear in his dialogue with Cloud in the begin of the fight.

And Midgar is a destroyed and desert city after the events of FFVII. He couldn't do some terrible things to the people of Midgar, because no one lives in Midgar anymore.

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You're not wrong but my point is it just feels like Sephiroth was tagged on at the end. He should've been a HUGE part of the movie (he's on the freakin cover). A shame.

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Originally Posted by sephireland

You're not wrong but my point is it just feels like Sephiroth was tagged on at the end. He should've been a HUGE part of the movie (he's on the freakin cover). A shame.

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If he'd
been the main antagonist through the whole movie, though, a lot of viewers would've complained that it was too similar to the game - the same main villain being chased by the same heroes, with the same objectives on both sides. By keeping Sephiroth in the background, like a lurking presence, AC had an extra bit of mystery.

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Originally Posted by Big D

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Originally Posted by sephireland

You're not wrong but my point is it just feels like Sephiroth was tagged on at the end. He should've been a HUGE part of the movie (he's on the freakin cover). A shame.

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If he'd
been the main antagonist through the whole movie, though, a lot of viewers would've complained that it was too similar to the game - the same main villain being chased by the same heroes, with the same objectives on both sides. By keeping Sephiroth in the background, like a lurking presence, AC had an extra bit of mystery.

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Well I guess that's why I found AC a bit of a disappointment. I think with all that went on in ,and the hugeness of, the FF7 world there's room for a sprawling, epic adventure movie. AC just seemed to scratch the surface.

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Originally Posted by sephireland

Well I guess that's why I found AC a bit of a disappointment. I think with all that went on in ,and the hugeness of, the FF7 world there's room for a sprawling, epic adventure movie. AC just seemed to scratch the surface.

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I agree with you there - after the vastness and depth of the game, there was a lot of material they could've explored; the hard part is condensing that into a two hour movie without making it too jumbled. The endless twists and turns of the game's story almost guaranteed that the film would never rival it in terms of scope...

The point of Sephiroth being in the film was to fight Cloud for six minutes and make the fanboys happy. It amazes me that people still think that Advent Children was supposed to be something more than a 90 minute fan service. Which I'm not hating on, that's all it should have been.

He came back for this:

Is anyone else feeling like FF is going a bit downhill. *runs away from avid gamers*

This film was good in the aspect it was a film and gave us a new storyline to follow. If you were going to resurrect a character, or say one isn't dead I would've preferred it to have been Aerith, the last of the Ancients.

I always believed until the beginning of this film that although Aerith had died, she protected the planet when the comet came towards earth.

I liked that idea. Because surely it isn't that easy to kill an ancient?

hmmm

Persephone Hermione

Sephiroth is like Naraku from InuYasha or Orochimaru from Naruto, you don't get rid of him . . . ever.

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Originally Posted by persephonehermione

Is anyone else feeling like FF is going a bit downhill. *runs away from avid gamers*

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*Chases you* I caught ya. ;)

Well, I think there are too many of these prequel/sequel things coming too quickly.

Just give us the damn remake of FF7! I would LOVE that.

& with Advent Children, to be honest, the main reason I enjoyed watching was just to see the characters I had played with for many years as... well more 'real' looking people. The action scenes were great too. & I always get very emotional when Marlene is doing her narration bit at the beginning. However, for me to properly understand what was happening in the movie took quite a lot of explaining & quite of lot of reading threads in this forum. And there are still things I'm a bit confused about, lol.

YOu had to have Sephiroth back. I mean, he's the best bad guy going. I mean, sure, you would think that the cells would have to actually do something more than touch Kadaj "Oh look, that strange box must contain mother!" And, no, they probrably wont make another sequel. I mean, you gotta let it die at some point as much as i would like to see a sequel.

Sephy was necessary to tie up the loose ends created throughout the movie. You can't have remnants running around causing havoc without expecting Sephiroth to show up. Personally I think it would have been more dramatic if he showed up earlier than he did, beat the snot out of cloud, and cloud manages to escape. Maybe have some kind of training montage as was popular in many movies, more stuff happens, he becomes more resolved, and re-confronts Sephy to put him down once and for all

The whole time I was watching AC for the first time though, I was hoping that Sephy would show up to fight cloud, beat cloud, then Kefka would appear out of nowhere, for NO reason, beat up Sephy AND cloud at the same time, then leave and then "The End" rolls down the screen... Just to put the fanboys in their place. Kefka > Sephy, Discuss

*ducks*

Sephiroth is that inner demon you can never overcome but can only postpone.

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Originally Posted by Big D

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Originally Posted by sephireland

You're not wrong but my point is it just feels like Sephiroth was tagged on at the end. He should've been a HUGE part of the movie (he's on the freakin cover). A shame.

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If he'd
been the main antagonist through the whole movie, though, a lot of viewers would've complained that it was too similar to the game - the same main villain being chased by the same heroes, with the same objectives on both sides. By keeping Sephiroth in the background, like a lurking presence, AC had an extra bit of mystery.

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I disagree. 80mins isn't enough to bring in a new story. Since it was just a fan service movie it would have probably pleased more people to see Sephiroth earlier on and actually make a meaningful presence for himself in the film.

If i'm honest I liked it, It wasn't brilliant though

Best thing was the freakin soundtrack guys!!!

I mean J-E-N-O-V-A On a freakin guitar!!!

only bad thing about the soundtrack was Still More Fighting (Tifa Vs Loz Fight) the Piano turned it into a p*ssy track, the original kicks arse though!

This is what I got from the movie - due to the fact that Hojo's theory in FFVII about the reunion - that as long as at least one cell of Jenova exists she can regenerate herself through a "reunion" - so until Jenova's cells are purged entirely she'll always be able to come back(and sephiroth with her).

thoughts?
am I way off?