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I used to think the same way, which is one reason I was turned off by FF7. Now that I think of it, I enjoyed playing FF7.Quote:
-Fantasy setting, as opposed to a modern/cyberpunk setting. This is Final Fantasy. It should be fantasy.
I guess what is so great about the series is each game is a bit different in terms of atmosphere. However, I would like to see another FF that's like the original in that it closely resembles D&D.
See, for me FFVII was fairly meh. The overhype definitely hurt it, and I just found it to be bland and uninteresting in many ways. It wasn't a terrible game, but I'd never play it again and I'm not a huge fan. VIII failed to capture my attention in any meaningful way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahveed
I wouldn't mind Squaresoft doing Cyberpunk or Modern settings, but I think the best Final Fantasies are just that - fantasy.
Well, you could say FFVI is Steampunk, but it was executed well and Final Steampunk doesn't quite roll off the tongue.
I was waiting for that post, I rolled my eyes at it and laughed at the predictability.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingdomHeartsKing
You know, I believe that was sarcasm...Quote:
Originally Posted by RaebusI was waiting for that post, I rolled my eyes at it and laughed at the predictability.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingdomHeartsKing
I was waiting for the sarcastic post to appear about ff7?
Gotcha ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raebus
I'd make the final boss the female, Mary-Sueish love-child of Cloud and Sephiroth: Cloth. And that's it.
The rest of the game could be utter crap, the satisfaction of kicking Cloth's ass would make it the best game ever.
Even better; Cloth can be the main character AND the final boss. Which would make the ass kicking ten times more entertaining.
Fantasy means "not real". Tons of futuristic technology that couldn't technically exist is "not real" enough to me. FF1 had robots and a rampaging mech in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the Void
True, but I think the reason 6 appeals to so many people is because the atmosphere is a bit lighter. While there is a dramatic and serious story going on, the writers managed to inject tons of humor into the game. Plus I think this game has the largest number of likable characters.Quote:
Well, you could say FFVI is Steampunk, but it was executed well and Final Steampunk doesn't quite roll off the tongue.
I suppose that's another reason the original is so great. It starts off in a medievalish setting, and eventually, you're fighting robots in a futuristic tower, then finally it involves time travel. The original has a little bit of everything.Quote:
Fantasy means "not real". Tons of futuristic technology that couldn't technically exist is "not real" enough to me. FF1 had robots and a rampaging mech in it.
FF has actually always blended fantasy and sci-fi. Like someone else has once stated - if you want a medieval-style RPG, play Dragon Quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReloadPsiFantasy means "not real". Tons of futuristic technology that couldn't technically exist is "not real" enough to me. FF1 had robots and a rampaging mech in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the Void
Let's look deeper into that:
FFI - largely medieval, but with robots, flying fortresses and airships.
FFII - same here. The empire possesed the Dreadnought and later the party obtained an airship.
FFIII - I'm not quite sure about this, but it definitely had a lot of airships.
FFIV - airships, spaceships, high-tech towers - all this in a largely medieval world.
FFV - again, largely medieval setting, but we also have technologiacally advanced ruins and, of course, airships.
FFVI - this time we get a world that's sort of medieval, but there's a lot of steam engines. And let's not forget the airships.
FFVII - this time, it's the other way around - a futuristic setting, but with magic. Come to think of it, the smaller towns look medieval...
FFVIII - see FFVII.
FFIX - haven't played it, but I believe it's the medieval setting again - but with airships, of course. (And I believe the black mages are manufacted, right?)
FFX - the setting is kind of medieval but a bit more to the east. And of course Machina, airships, the Al Bhed Home, etc...
FFXI - I guess it's pretty much the same deal as with 1-5 and 9. Middle ages and airships.
FFXII - the setting here is strongly medieval but it also has A LOT of technology (including airships).
If FF was suddenly to become completely medieval, it wouldn't be the same. Just try to imagine a Final Fantasy without airships.
The game would definitely be a political saga. I really liked that element of FFXII's story, and I would like to see more of it.
Also, the characters would be as non-stereotypical as possible; Maybe a 40-something veteran soldier whose formerly very nice country recently got a new, power-hungry king, his son, an crazy hermit that thinks magic still exists (you would get it about halfway through the game), and an emo doctor. Something along the lines of that.
...All right, all right, I'm already writing the story. I'm gonna get RPG maker pretty soon, and I want to have a workable idea when I get it. My story would be a decent FF, if not completely loyal to the series, though.
basically true.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_FynnFF has actually always blended fantasy and sci-fi. Like someone else has once stated - if you want a medieval-style RPG, play Dragon Quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReloadPsiFantasy means "not real". Tons of futuristic technology that couldn't technically exist is "not real" enough to me. FF1 had robots and a rampaging mech in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the Void
Let's look deeper into that:
FFI - largely medieval, but with robots, flying fortresses and airships.
FFII - same here. The empire possesed the Dreadnought and later the party obtained an airship.
FFIII - I'm not quite sure about this, but it definitely had a lot of airships.
FFIV - airships, spaceships, high-tech towers - all this in a largely medieval world.
FFV - again, largely medieval setting, but we also have technologiacally advanced ruins and, of course, airships.
FFVI - this time we get a world that's sort of medieval, but there's a lot of steam engines. And let's not forget the airships.
FFVII - this time, it's the other way around - a futuristic setting, but with magic. Come to think of it, the smaller towns look medieval...
FFVIII - see FFVII.
FFIX - haven't played it, but I believe it's the medieval setting again - but with airships, of course. (And I believe the black mages are manufacted, right?)
FFX - the setting is kind of medieval but a bit more to the east. And of course Machina, airships, the Al Bhed Home, etc...
FFXI - I guess it's pretty much the same deal as with 1-5 and 9. Middle ages and airships.
FFXII - the setting here is strongly medieval but it also has A LOT of technology (including airships).
If FF was suddenly to become completely medieval, it wouldn't be the same. Just try to imagine a Final Fantasy without airships.
I think alot of people don't realize that the first 5 hours of FFVII are futuristic, once you enter the world map it begins like any other Final Fantasy. The "futuristic" tag itself is useless as Shinra's technology is actually less "advanced" than ours in various ways.
What the newer FF's have demonstrated best is that societies do not move forward or backward - just in different directions. Anyone who's played the earlier games knows that this has been the intention since the first installment, combining various aspects from greek, Budhist, Japanese and western culture.
I'm talking about Fantasy as the genre, not fantasy as the literal definition. Generally, (and you see this with book categorization) you have a "Sci-Fi" section which encompasses a subdivision, "fantasy", which refers to high-magic low-tech. Sci-fi can also refer to the fantasy genre, but generally high-magic is referred to as "fantasy" which is how I'm using the word.
FFVII was reasonably high-tech. Even materia is somewhat technologically based. FFVI had more mysticism.
Personally, my preference is a high-magic world. Something I liked about how FFXII did it was their technology was more magitek, magical technology which I tend to prefer in such settings. If magic has such power and abundance, it logically should be the main mover and shaker in the universe.
I don't want completely medieval, I want a high-magic setting as opposed to high-technology setting.
Well, whatever the source of the technology was, FFXII looked like Star Wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the Void
Now that I think of it, every FF I have played follows one of two storylines.
1. Salvage the crystals and defeat a great evil.
2. Rebel against the empire.
FF 15 should get something more creative. For example, I like how in DQ 7, there is only one island, and you have to find all the rest. And in Tales of Legendia, the whole island is actually a big ship. FF needs a story that is creative and completely off the wall like the two examples mentioned. I'm tired of crystals and empires.
Of course, I have never played 8-11, but I imagine they follow one of the two patterns at least somewhat.