The best ROUND 2 submission (just so there's no confusion)
Hello everyone! I'm here to shed some light on the rules and regulations of Eyes on Final Fantasy through a series of questions and mock situations that could occur. Now, since I'm only a Cid's Knight in Training and not a full-fledged Cid's Knight, and this looks like quite the daunting task, I've asked the lovely Leeza to come help me out in answering these questions. Say "Hi" to everyone Leeza!
[leeza]This is not funny in the least. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Sorry about that folks, she just got up and hasn't had her morning cup of coffee yet. Anyways, let's get to the questions, shall we?
1. When is double posting okay?
Wow, this one's a doosey. Maybe I should check with Leeza and see what she thinks. Leeza, what are your thoughts on this question?
[leeza]Please do not post more than once in a row. Use the edit/delete button that could be found in every post instead. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
[leeza]Also, do not double or triple or post anything other than one post. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Hey, that sounds pretty good to me! Oh she did forget one minor detail. There are special circumstances where double posting is okay, like in these confessionals and I know we do it on occasion (and have a good justification) in the site staff forums. Basically, double posting is always a no-no except for special situations where you have prior moderator approval.
I think this is going pretty good so far, so let's see the next question.
2. What is the signature size limit?
I think I can handle this one Leeza, why don't you go get your coffee? The signature size limits on a signature is a maximum width of 550 pixels, a maximum height of 250 pixels and these include any text in the signature besides images. Oh, and don't forget, the total file size of all images combined must not exceed 50 KiB (51,200 bytes). I know that can be a lot to remember, so I've made a handy picture to illustrate this:
http://www.geocities.com/chadmonkey/siglimits.jpg
p.s. This makes a great bookmark and is a great birthday present to boot. Tell your friends!
Well Leeza's back with us, so we'll move on to our next question.
3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?
Whew, that's a tough question, but I bet Leeza knows the answer. Leeza, what's the answer for this one?
[leeza]Please do not post more than once in a row. Also, please read the Rules/FAQ as that would answer a lot of your questions.
Welcome to EoFF. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Okay, that was answered in a roundabout way, but I think I got the gist of it. What Leeza is trying to say is that any posts that are against the rules in the Rules/FAQ should definitely be warned. If it's not in the Rules/FAQ, use your best judgement. And don't use the warn button for personal reasons, that just looks tacky. Right, Leeza?
[leeza]Anymore posts such as this one and your stay here will prove to be quite short. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Okay, okay. Someone needs another cup of coffee.
Onto question number four.
4. How can a banned member get unbanned?
Oooh oooh, I know this one! After two years they can ask/apply for an unban, but these are very rare and it's completely dependent upon the reason the person was banned in the first place. Bam! I nailed it. Aren't you proud of me?
[leeza] NO. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Oh. :cry:
Question five...
5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?
Since Leeza was so quick to put me down after nailing the last question, I'm going to let miss smarty-pants answer this one. Good luck Leeza! :mwahaha:
[leeza]Language such as that will not be tolerated here. Do not use it again. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Oh... that was good. But what about if I put an asterisk in the curse word? Then it's not a curse word, right?
[leeza]Do not go around the filters. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Oh, wow. See, this is why I have Leeza here, she keeps me on the straight-and-narrow. So remember kids, EoFF has a zero-tolerance policy for cursing and trying to get around the filters that help to keep this a family-friendly forum.
You know what Leeza, we make an awesome team, you and I! This reminds me of this one time my friend and I were headed over to the mall to pick up...
[leeza]This is going off topic. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Oh, yeah, thanks! You sure are good to have around. So let's get to question six.
6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
Wow, the questions are getting a little more interesting now. Well, lucky for me Leeza has my back. Right Leeza? Leeza? Bummer, she must have wandered off to play with a kitten. I guess I'm on my own for this one. Well, most likely I wouldn't have any knowledge of him having found my second account unless he banned it, at which point I would unban it, then he would ban it, etc... Hopefully in the middle of this ban/unban-fest one of us would have the decency to either note who's banning/unbanning or make a thread about it in the secret forum staff forum so we could get the matter resolved. But then again, this is Psy, so he'd probably ban it anyways for his own personal amusement.
No Leeza yet. Looks like I'm on my own for number seven as well...
7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
Being a computer dork, the first thing I would do is try to see how he did it(by looking at the page's source code. Not asking him. There's no challenge in that) and try to disable it, if possible. While I was doing that I would also approach the other administrators with my evidence and pleade my case to get some admin muscle behind me. Then once we had our united front I/we could approach munty and do the dirty work.
Okay, another question answered without Leeza. This is getting a little stressful. I hope she gets back soon, because if I stay stressed for too long I sweat a lot and when I go to the bathroom...
[leeza]Thank you for that info, but we can do without it. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Leeza! Alright, you're back. Very cool. I was just about to work on question eight. Hopefully you can help me.
8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
Hmm. Rubah being chatty. Yeah, that never happens. Anyways, Leeza, what's do you think of Rubah flinging posts like a runny monkey?
[leeza]This is spam. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
But she's doing it in General Chat. I thought that's where all of the fun talk goes?
[leeza]This might be GC, but there is a limit to the spam that I will tolerate. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Okay, okay, I get the picture. So we have to stop Rubah because spam is bad. Hmm... I've got it! I'd send her a PM asking her why she's posting so much and telling her that it's getting a little out of control. Since she's a CK, there's a good chance that she's either not realizing that she's posting so much or perhaps she just happened to drink five sodas and is on a caffiene rush. Either way, it's most likely a temporary, unintentional occurance and a nicely worded PM will help to sort things out.
Eight down, two to go. I'm pumped, Leeza. Shall we check out number nine?
9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.
Uh-oh, this means you and I are against each other on this subject, Leeza. Don't worry, whatever you post about Hsu I'll go behind you and edit it so you're in agreement with us. How awesome is that?
[leeza]Do not touch a Mod's edits. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Fine, fine. We'll just have to do this the old fashioned way. Hmm, should he stay or should be go? Hsu seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders, so if he were to lapse into inactivity, I'd want him back in action. I would probably start by PM'ing him, assuming he's still active, and ask him why he's pulling a Yams. I would hope that a private discussion with him would shed some light onto the situation. Maybe he's inactive because life is busy, maybe he doesn't care or maybe he's always the last to the party and misses any modding opportunities. After having this discussion, if he's not going to pick up his modding activities without good reason, then I'd probably have to side with the others and ask him to step down.
Last question. Let's do this!
10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
Me? Host a meetup? With EoFFers? In my house? Hah! Surely you jest. Anyways, I would need to see who browsed my machine. You never know, there could be a chance that it was just CKs and Admins, in which case I would be more worried about them browsing my porn stash than EoFF. If it was non-forum staffers though, I would have to alert the rest of forum staffers of my failure as a CK on my opening night and hope they take pity on my souls. Damage control, basically.
And that's it! We're done Leeza. Thank you for your help, you were wonderful. I say we take a picture of the two of us to show everyone what a great team we make. Don't you know what they'd say?
[leeza]Photoshopped ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Yeah, probably. Oh well, it's their loss. I guess it's time to go for now. Thanks Leeza!
[leeza]Good bye. ~ Leeza[/leeza]
Good night everyone!
Breine's ROUND 2 answers.
1. When is double posting okay? My first thought is never, apart from user notes and such of course, but I guess it can be acceptable if a newbie does it in his/her welcome thread.
2. What is the signature size limit? 250 x 550 pixels or 50 kb.
3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not? It should be used when someone has cursed, bashed another member, posted porn of something else forbidden in a reply. It shouldn’t be used for personal gains/reasons, e.g. if you don’t like another member or something similar.
4. How can a banned member get unbanned? The banned member has to wait two years, and then he/she can ask to get unbanned – each Cid Knight then has to decide whether or not they personally find him/her eligible to get unbanned.
5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing? It’s a big fat no-no.
6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future. Me wanting to use such a second account is very unlikely, but hypothetically I’d confess to him about it no matter what, and then if I really wanted to use the account in the future I’d ask for his permission, and if he said no I’d accept it and move on.
7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin? Well, I’d send him a PM where I'd highly suggest him to remove the javascripts right away, and also inform him that I’m going to take it up with all of the other Cid Knight’s and administrators – because he is an admin it should really be a group decision among the CKs and admins.
8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard? Again since she’s part of the staff and a Cid’s Knight it’s not really something I can do by myself. So therefore I’d also inform her that I'm going to take it up with the other Cid's Knights and staff members, and that we're going to find out what to do about the situation.
9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is. I’d suggest that if he still really wants to be a mod it would be a good idea to become active again, or else it would be a good idea to step back, since being a mod without actually doing anything moderative is kinda pointless.
10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
I’d immediately shut the computer down, and then when I come back online I’d give them a warning for doing such a thing. Friends or not, doing that is forbidden.
GoBo's Response to Round 2
1. When is double posting okay?
Double posting is okay in a few different times. Double posting is perfectly acceptable when updating a work in the Writer’s Corner; note this does not mean you may bump a thread with a message like "OMG SOMEONE RESPOND!", but if you have a new Chapter to post you are more then welcome to post it even if you have the last post. This rule applies to all other projects, whether or not they are in the Writer’s Corner (a good example would be oddler’s hero spirits.)
2. What is the signature size limit?
A max width of 550 pixels, max height of 250 pixel, including text outside the images and the file size of all images combined cannot be higher then 50 KB (Think I got that abbreviation right).
3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?
The warn button should be used when a members has broken a rule listed in the Rules/FAQ that has yet to be fixed/commented on by a CK or an Admin. The warn button should not be used if you do not like or do not agree with the person’s opinion.
4. How can a banned member get unbanned?
A banned may be unbanned if they appeal after two years of their banning and the staff forum has an unanimous vote to allow them back. Also, if you are less then 13 years old, and your posts clearly demonstrate you are not mature enough to post at EoFF, you may be banned until you are 13 years or older.
5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?
Some cursing is okay, but once cursing has been deemed excessive (deemed as such by a staff member), then your post will be edited by a staff member to remove the swearing, repeated offenses will result in warnings, extreme cases, in bans.
6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
I would immediately tell Psychotic that the old second account was mine. I wouldn’t want crash to be blamed for something that isn’t his fault, especially if I was to blame. I would probably PM him, so I can privately tell him about his mistake, seeing as I have already found out from personal experience that calling someone out in front of an entire forum (or in this case staff), is not the right thing to do before a PM.
7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
Obviously banning him by myself would be impossible. My first reaction, would probably to find another Admin, and get him to ban him. I probably wouldn’t confront him head on, because as an Admin if he really had gone haywire then he could remove my CK title, and ban me making me useless to the staff. Also, by going to an Admin, I could find out if there was some reason that he was not being banned that I, as a CK, wouldn’t know about, although if he had posted penis’s and vagina’s then there probably wouldn’t be a reason.
8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
I think I would PM rubah, and suggest that she tone it down because she is setting a bad example for other members, especially younger, more impressionable ones. If the problem continued to occur, then I would start, by going to another CK, or an Admin, and asking if they too feel it is a problem. If I get general disagreement, then I would stop, realizing that as long as the rest of the staff sees it isn’t setting a bad example, then it may just be a lapse of judgement. If after PMing a few I see some agreements, I would probably reattempt, to PM her one more time, before checking with the CKs one more time, and calling it out publicly (in the CK forum).
9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.
In this situation I would probably start by bringing up the problem with the other staff members, saying that we shouldn’t keep Hsu on the staff just because he wants a shiny title. If you are a moderator, you should moderate. I would urge him to either A. Begin moderation, or B. Step down from the position. If he says he will start moderating, but doesn’t (we’ll say I said that he should have resolved the problem in a month), then I will bring up the problem with the staff again, restating my opinion, hoping to convince others that my opinion is right. Once I’ve convinced others to see my opinion, I think eventually others would give way. If I fail to convince others, then perhaps I should go back, and look if he has actually been failing his moderating duties, and prehaps, readjust my opinion.
10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
My immediate action would be to switch my password, just in case a member viewed it, and to let the others know of the situation. I would recommend that the we send out PM’s to the possible people who have viewed asking them if they did in fact do this, if they answer yes, I would recommend, giving them a warning, but not to ban them, as it was my fault for leaving my password stored on my computer. If this event where to occur, it would’ve been entirely my fault, so I apologize, and tell the staff that I am ready to face any repercussions they wish to punish me with.
ROUND 2 BECAUSE PAULY WALLY DURKADUR SMELLS LIKE CHEESE
1. When is double posting okay? art threads, poetry threads, graphics threads, and other threads of that nature ONLY.
2. What is the signature size limit? 50 KB or 550x250 pixels
3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not? used: when you think a post is inappropriate or offensive. not used: just as a joke or just because you don't like the person.
4. How can a banned member get unbanned? if after two years they can prove that they're going to behave and the staff unanimously votes to let them back in ^^
5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing? try not to do it at all. If it's excessive, you'll be pmed about it.
6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future. I'd tell him that it's mine, and that I'm only using it for fun or whatever, and I'd promise that I'm not using it to cause any mischief. I'd then tell him that he could ban it after I'm done with it.
However, at the same time, they're just plain illegal and I'd have no reason to make one.
7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin? I'd pm another admin about it and take a screenshot as proof so it doesn't look like I'm only out to get him in trouble.
8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard? Kick her in the butt >:\ for reals though, I'd PM her to inform her of how I feel about it, but I'd be as polite as possible.
9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is. I would drive him to activity by telling him that Rubah won't kiss him anymore unless he's more active. Or if you want a serious answer, I'd say "look...we have a lot of people who post around on this forum daily, and we need all of the staff, including you, to be around...Can you try to be on more for the sake of the site and the rest of the staff?"
10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do? "See, there are two staff forums. One is for serious business, the other one is for joking around. The one you're looking at is for joking around." Or, I'd talk to the rest of the staff to see what they think should be done.
Round Two! What time is Pacific time in GMT?
1. When is double posting okay?
When staff do it!
2. What is the signature size limit?
Too small for Patrick Moore.
3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?
Should: "Shut the smurf up, you stupid dip:skull::skull::skull::skull:."
Should not: "You're such a silly billy." or "Psychotic, shut the smurf up, you stupid dip:skull::skull::skull::skull:." :D
4. How can a banned member get unbanned?
After two years, and only if they give all the staff sexual pleasures for three months after the unbanning.
5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?
Whatever it is, I think I just broke it in 3.
6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
Leeza would've found it years before Psy, and would have merged the two. <---- real life story.
7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
Dingalings and Fairy Caves are wonderful pieces of God's creation. We should treasure them. Just not before marriage.
8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
"rubah, Del says children are better seen and not heard".
9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.
PM Spoony BarD to convince rubah to join us (with some begging like "Please rubah, we just want EoFF to be working at full efficiency. Hsu is pretty much the best member of staff we've got here, so without him it's all slowly falling apart"), then get her to go celibate on his lazy ass.
10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
Quote: "Get the hell off my computer you weird ass nerds. I'm reporting yo' asses to the higher ups and, when they say yea, I'm gonna ban y'all to ebaumsworld."
Hop eis not too late : Round 2
I just saw I had passed to the second round now O_o why did u post the winners in different times
Questions:
1. When is double posting okay? When it is occasionaly updated!
2. What is the signature size limit? 550*250 max size 50kb
(being a sigmaker I know this better than anyone :rolleyes2 )
3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not? It should be used when there is a post or thread that does not respect the rules. Eg. Spamming, violence, when a memeber is rude and also if there are images containing pornography or nudity.
4. How can a banned member get unbanned? After 2 years, if you show you're able to be back and also if you require to be unbanned!
5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing? It is forbidden to use any type of cursing words. However EOFF substituted some of them so when mambers use them we type but they appear in different words like hm... smurf it'll appear smurf or :skull::skull::skull::skull: it'll appear skulls!
6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
Well it is forbidden to have a second account so yes I'd inform him and even thouhg I'd like to have it I'd request to be closed!
7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
'It is forbidden to post images of any type of nudity. Unfortuntely we can't allow that in this forum, we do appreciate your position as an administator, however rules are rules. And being you an administrator you should know it better than anyone. Therefore you might as well know that the only measure the staff can take is ban you'
8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
Well first of all we have to notify her of what's she's doing. If she keeps spamming she must be banned!
9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.
I'd try to make him do some things just to keep active again like contest and things like that. However is he's not moderating or active he must have a good reason. Sometimes is work or family!
10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
Well as long as they browse there's nothing wrong, however I would have to make my security tighter!
Next time please post all the winners at one round :(
