I could care less about vegetarians as long as they keep to themselves or don't push their beliefs on me. To each his/her own.
I could never give up, meat, though.
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I could care less about vegetarians as long as they keep to themselves or don't push their beliefs on me. To each his/her own.
I could never give up, meat, though.
I tried for half a month, and it was too painful. There are certain types of protein that make me feel happy in my tummy, and I don't get those from beans and nuts, thanks ><.
Needs some sausage and melted cheese bits. Otherwise I would agree. That salad thing is right on the dot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagensyg
Tofu is delicious when done right. But I don't think I'd be able to live on it.
You would ruin a perfectly good steak with snails?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagensyg
..thats just wrong.
Although i suppose mushroomsauce on it wouldnt be much different..
Sometimes I go for a good week without eating meat without realizing it. But I do enjoy it sometimes, but I prefer free range meat. There aer pleanty of other sources of protein, like nuts, tofu, and milk to name a few.
In the netherlands there is dairy based meat that tastes just like chicken. but of course.. awfully expensive
Vegetarianism? Fine by me. I eat meat often enough, but if someone chooses a vegetarian diet - and understands the hows and whys - then I support their decision. When I'm cooking for myself, I prepare vegetarian dishes as often as not.
In response to ethical concerns about livestock treatment: I buy responsibly, favouring producers that are known to look after their animals well. Free-range eggs cost nearly twice as much, but it's worth it, in my opinion.
It bothers me that vegetarians often claim their diet is wholly ethical to animals, though. Commercial crops are planted by clearing habitable forests or scrub and replacing them with crops; animals lose their habitat and food supply. Harvesting plants for consumption deprives further animals of food. Keeping 'pests' - birds or insects - at bay means that those creatures are forced either to starve, or to relocate to a new location where they'll be competing with the local wildlife. Just because you're not devouring an animal's flesh is no guarantee that your food was produced without animal suffering.
Nevertheless, there'd be something reassuring about knowing that no animals were directly killed in order for you to eat them. And a vegetarian diet can indeed be just as nutritionally sound, as long as it's done properly.
Humane from dictionary.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X
1. characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals, esp. for the suffering or distressed: humane treatment of horses.
Wow, I can see there is a few bits of misinformation and lack of knowledge about vegetarism in this thread.
I am not a vegetarian pr. definition as I eat game and wild fish. But I do not eat any kind of industrial meat, nor do I eat milk or egg (or products that contain those things) that aren't organic. This because I do not think it's wrong to slay and eat animals, as that is how nature works. But I do believe the meat industry is disgusting, to put it gently, and therefore will have as little as possible do with it.
I really like meat, but I've many times thought of becoming a vegetarian.. or at least cutting back on the meat. I think the latter is something I'll probably end up doing at some point in the near future.
Also, organic food ftw.
This I agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
As for my position now:
I like meat. I eat meat because I like it, not because I need it or 'need' it. I accept that living beings die for nothing more than my enjoyment, because I know a vegetarian diet can be a complete diet. Putting aside for the moment the issue of how they are treated when alive, I cannot abdicate facing the fact that living beings, some of them very intelligent (Pigs for instance), are dying for my pleasure.
So I am okay eating meat. I accept that there is blood on my hands. But I try to get meat from farms which treat animals well, too. I don't give a flying frack about organic or any other paranoid hippy dogma/bull:skull::skull::skull::skull: marketing strategy like that, but I do look out for free-range stuff, as I believe that does actually matter and make a difference. I'm not deluded into thinking that everything marked free range actually is free range - there's still plenty of bull:skull::skull::skull::skull: marketing there - but I believe there is a difference between killing an animal food (Although that is still an ethical issue, it is at least biologically sound to eat meat*) versus torturing an animal (Which I abhor); ideally free range animals have not been tortured.
* Still, I don't feel comfortable using any argument which essentially boils down to "It's natural". Poisonous snakes are natural. Rape and murder are natural. Cancer is natural. The mere fact that something is natural is not justification for it, so I'm never sure how solid the ground I am on here is.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeezaHumane from dictionary.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X
1. characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals, esp. for the suffering or distressed: humane treatment of horses.
I got mine from the Webster's Dictionary website. It's a bit different of a definition on there it seems.
I seriously entertain this line of thought, and thus have no moral qualms about eating anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X
From a nutritional standpoint, eating more vegetables is good for you.
The difference between eating a plant and an animal, to me, is that one is sentient, and one is not. :p