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I voted for Wild Rose and this is roughly my reasoning as well. While the other groups were basic plot devices to give a realistic way for your party to form a reasonable resistance in short time to the antagonist and then forgotten, Wild Rose stays a part of the game and continues to work with the party throughout the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by scrumpleberry
I vote for AVALANCHE!!!!
Reasons behind my decision are as follows:
(SPOILER)
In BC, they are secretly funded by Rufus ShinRa.
(SPOILER)They are also as strong as SOLDIER 1st Class in BC.
Mr. T is in it lol
The Forest Owls were serious losers!
And The Returners.......well I don't know much about them
As for Wild Rose, I didn't pay a lot of information to FF2 so I've never heard of them xD
I didn't initially consider the Wild Roses but having given them some support and considering their role in the game, I think they were the most effective. While the others were definite influences upon the game and the plot, they were mostly short term. The Forest Owls were laughable so I discounted them from the start and AVALANCHE had some success in irritating ShinRa and blowing up reactors, but little long-term progress. Even then, the retaliation by the Shinra just hurt the people even more.
The Returners didn't really bring down the Empire, though they did negotiate with them as far as withdrawing from occupied territories and by occupying Vector itself after the Esper attacks so I was going to say them initially.
A'yo, After playing FF2, I easily give that to Wild Rose. They're the only group I know in the FF Series that actually made it to the end without screwing up bigtime son. Wild Rose got my vote. And I wonder why you guys didn't include any FFX groups. Even though they got pwned, I suppose they deserved to be up their as well...:rolleyes2
Avalanche got pretty much wiped out with only three members that survived.
Ahhh, The Forest Owls were to comical and they didn't make it. =/
SeeD was all over the place.
The Retuners lost their Banon (i think) and pretty much got wiped out. =(
Wild Rose. They were pretty well put together.
My vote goes to SeeD though, even though they ain't up there. They should be.
Wild Rose had a real kick-ass theme, the Returners theme to a lesser extent. But the Returners had Edgar, the most awesome king in any work of fiction/nonfiction ever.
Okay, AVALANCHE never dropped any plates, that was ShinRa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
SeeD was not a rebel faction. A rebellion is hidden amongst the commonality. SeeD are a legitimate army funded by the Sorceress Defiance program (or whatever it was called). Thus it does not meet the criteria necessary to count it among the rebel movements.
Forest Owls were weak for a reason: they didn't like violence. They felt SeeD and the soldiers of Galbadia were unnecessary.
I haven't played enough of VI to know who the Returners are but from I've heard, they're okay. I know the Wild Rose, they're okay too.
I would vote AVALANCHE if it made any sense to me to vote (Wedge was the only member who could be considered weak in terms of power). This is supposed to be a debate, yet there's no topic to debate. There was no question posed. People are just jumping to random conclusions.
I'll start us up.
Most people assumed the thread was asking who was stronger and have answered thus. Some assumed it was about their methods and carry-through and... answered thus.
We'll assume those questions remain. However, here's a new one:
Which rebel faction had a name that best fit it's purpose? Did it define to the rumormill what their motives were? Did it help them to keep their movement a secret? Did it apply itself to spreading fear or discord among the authority or evil against which the group was fighting?
If by "return", they mean returning to using machines and not MagiTech or magic, then Returners answers your question.