Yeah, add the people who defend the mopey version of Cloud to my list of fandom peeves. He wasn't like that in the game.
I cannot picture the mopey Cloud saying the "Let's mosey" line right before fighting Sephiroth.
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Yeah, add the people who defend the mopey version of Cloud to my list of fandom peeves. He wasn't like that in the game.
I cannot picture the mopey Cloud saying the "Let's mosey" line right before fighting Sephiroth.
I agree with you guys. Compilation Cloud has no smurfing dignity to him, he's a caricature of himself.
In FFVII, he was an imperfect hero for an imperfect world. That's what made him so great.
Post-FFVII, he just sucks.
I find it hard to let most things people say bother me. I mean after all, I myself am a hater by nature.
Mostly I just get mildly irritated by criticisms that just aren't true, which isn't to often I see it around here.
Okay - People who bash Edward ( FF 4) There is nothing wrong with a sensitive male character, nothing. Plus Edward becomes braver and gains so much courage throughout the game; yet he still manages to get the bash.
- Final Fantasy V has a cliche villain and has no story and cardboard cutout characters. ExDeath has no issue with torturing a ten year old girl and old man; I wouldn't mess with him would you ? Plus Bartz is a refreshing main lead compared to the more depressive Cecil and Terra and Galuf is awesome.
- You only like Final Fantasy VII because of nostalgic memories. No Final Fantasy VII isn't the best game in the world, but it's still fun, deep and really solid and still holds up today.
- Tifa Lockhart is a slut/ whore and only horny males like her character- Tifa is a brave and spirited female character, she can defend herself in battles and she's kind and gives the characters strength when they're feeling down. I think you might be envious Tifa hater.
- Final Fantasy VIII is a horrible game- No. It's unique, risky, refreshing and deep.
- Squall x Rinoa is a terrible couple and Squall all of a sudden loves her- If you focused on the storyline you would know that Squall has trust issues and struggles trusting others. During CD3 he realized that he took Rinoa for granted. Squall fell for Rinoa at the dance, but his fears pushed him from developing a close relationship with Rinoa.
- Kuja is a terrible villian because he wears a thong- Okay the thong is disturbing, but Kuja is a wonderful villian. He's unique, cunning, vain, sees beauty in all things terrible but deep inside he's just a confused, hurt, very angry young man. Unlike say.. Golbez he feels human. Ironic considering well... spoilers.
- Hope is annoying and should die/ be bashed- Okay Hope is a young boy who has just lost somebody close to him. He has to grieve and yet the game gives him NO TIME too. He can't just go to his room and let everything out, he can't get over things just like that. It would be unhealthy and not impossible. Give the kid a break !
- Gau sucks- Okay why ? The poor boy has been through alot of sh*te. His Father rejetced him believeing that he was a demon boy and his Father most likely has a huge mental illness. After trying to impress him, his Father rejects him again but Gau is thankful because he knows that his Father is alive. He's a cute, mistunderstood, and grateful young boy that needs a bigger fanbased and more love.
I think people have Edward because he's useless, not because he's sensitive.
Hell, I loved Edward's character and hated him in battle until the DS version came along and made him GLORIOUS! And the TAY came along and made him take several levels in badass making him one of my most favourite FF characters of all time.
When it comes to what bothers me in the fandom is the treatment FFXII gets. People say it doesn't feel like a Final Fantasy and that the story is weak. Well, in my opinion, it feels much more like an FF than X ever did and the story, while a bit poorly paced, was one of the more complex and thought-provoking in the entire franchise. Why do people hate my favorite FF so much :cry:
Alright, maybee, I understand and respect your opinion, but I have so many issues with Hope.
Lightning continues fighting to reach Eden (the capital of COCOON). Hope follows because essentially, he likes Lightning, or hell, maybe he just likes the fact that they both dislike Snow. The two share their frustrations about Snow, and Hope wants to KILL him?
What would killing Snow prove? That Hope can be a "soldier" like Lightning (indicated by calling his plan for Snow's murder Operation Nora)? Maybe he wants to prove that he has enough semblance of control left in his life to get revenge for his departed mother? If that were the case, Hope is just picking the easier target for his revenge; think about it, Lighting wants to take on Cocoon (the party responsible for detaining Serah, Hope, and Nora) while Hope wants to take on a goofball who considers Hope to be his ally.
Square wanted to create a character who's a young teenager clearly out of his environment, and as a result, he is confused and angry. Now, to be fair, I actually defend Tidus to a certain extent because I find this position interesting (he's a superstar who has to deal with the fact that he's been transported to a world ruled by horrible disasters, and that his father is the reason for it all). However, Hope's actions are so irrational and petty in the face of the main conflict that I can't bring myself to like him. Just because SE wanted to realistically (ymmv) portray a teenager's wild emotional state in a game does not defend Hope from the fact that he comes off as petty, immature and self-centered.
I guess to tie this back into this thread, one of my pet peeves is that fans believe that because Hope is the youngest cast member and he had an extremely rough day (an understatement, I know), he should be excused for his behavior. I understand if you like Hope, please understand why I don't.
(I would like to reiterate that I hold everyone's opinions on this forum in the highest respect, and I am not trying to start a full-heated argument on this thread. Also, I love Gau as a character, but never use him in battle; he's decent, but I like being able to control my units directly)
True Edward was pretty useless in the original SNES but he's really handy in the DS version and he still gets hated. SE has improved his battle skills so why still the hate ?
Also supposedly Edward in the GBA version if you train him up he's a total powerhouse.
About Hope yeah killing Snow would prove and slove nothing but Hope learns that throughout the game and like Edward he learns and gets better, and he gets along with Snow at the end like a older and younger brother relationship.
but yeah, opinions are opinions.
Yeah same I love Gau but never use him in battle either. His monster learning whatevers just take too much time to learn and can't be bothered etc.
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That's good and dandy except no.
You can never keep him alive long enough in the DS version to let him level, to build him u, to make him useful.
Well, he is useful in the sense that your party is stronger with him than without him. He's just useless in the sense that every character in the game is better than him.
Yeah in the DS version maybe; but in the GBA version you can.Quote:
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