Sephiroth appreciation thread. Yes really.

Sephiroth (the member): Tifa's Boobs is not trolling. I agree with her - she made a joke about Sephiroth (the character) that works, and it was mildly amusing. maybee if anyone was the one trolling in this thread, and I would appreciate that stopping.

Everyone, remember that this is a Sephiroth (the character) appreciation thread. Just as Sabin fanboys asked for HC to not post if he wasn't going to appreciate Sabin, I too will ask everyone not to post if they aren't going to post on topic here - if you're here to diss Sephiroth (the character) or anything like it, please post in a thread where it is relevant.

Also, fanboy shouldn't always to be taken as an insult - I am happily a FFVII fanboy. It's just 'fan' with 'boy' stuck on the end. It's not a big deal. Don't get too cooked up over it. :p If you're a fan of something, you should expect to be called a fanboy/fangirl. It may be said in a mocking tone on occasion, but overall it doesn't make it any less true.

And then you guys just resolve it on your own while I post. Such great kids. [img]http://home.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/heart.gif[/img]

I like Sephiroth and feel he was one of the greatest characters in the series, easily. Not sure about greatest villain because for me, he doesn't fit the standard definition of a villain. His character itself, though, is insanely interesting for me. His story is immense... arguably just as if not more interesting as Cloud's story.

/bows

And now to get this thread back on topic:

I like Sephiroth. He's cool. Advent Children Sephiroth not so much. Like I said, Sylvie.

The problem with Sephiroth in Advent Children (and that movie in general) was that it seemed the creators based everything on some exaggerated idea of what FFVII was to fanboys that really didn't get the core of the story. I get that it's harder to cram a sequel idea into 2 hours from a 30-40 hour game, but they could have done better.

Don't get me wrong, it was still a fun and cool action movie, which is exactly what I was hoping it would be, but I also blame it for the common misconception that Cloud has always been some emo dude and Sephiroth's character is only a sword and long hair with cool poses.

Anyway, yes, appreciation thread.

The whole impaling of the Midgar Zolom with that ominous stormy background is one of the coolest things in that game.

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Originally Posted by Sephex

The problem with Sephiroth in Advent Children (and that movie in general) was that it seemed the creators based everything on some exaggerated idea of what FFVII was to fanboys that really didn't get the core of the story. I get that it's harder to cram a sequel idea into 2 hours from a 30-40 hour game, but they could have done better.

Don't get me wrong, it was still a fun and cool action movie, which is exactly what I was hoping it would be, but I also blame it for the common misconception that Cloud has always been some emo dude and Sephiroth's character is only a sword and long hair with cool poses.

Anyway, yes, appreciation thread.

The whole impaling of the Midgar Zolom with that ominous stormy background is one of the coolest things in that game.

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Well, he shows his really important characteristics and to show that he really is like before but does think about what he's doing next and how there is Case of Black/Black Lifestream. That is a very good addition to Advent Children like Episode Zero is for Final Fantasy XIII. It is very hard to show so much of one character in a movie like you have said and it was about Sephiroth all the time anyways, which is the reason why they used the term "Advent" or "Reunion" like it was first intended.

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Originally Posted by Loony BoB

I like Sephiroth and feel he was one of the greatest characters in the series, easily. Not sure about greatest villain because for me, he doesn't fit the standard definition of a villain. His character itself, though, is insanely interesting for me. His story is immense... arguably just as if not more interesting as Cloud's story.

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Yes! I feel the same way. I am not sure why, but I find myself more fascinated with fallen-hero characters than the actual protagonists of stories. It is interesting how a person in good standing, generally speaking, can make a series of decisions that lead to the loss of his humanity and renders him insane.

According to Crisis Core, he used to have good friends. There's even a hint of friendship implied between himself and Zack in FFVII. After losing that support system one by one, the real kicker that sent him over was finding out about Jenova. He has no one else outside of Shinra, thanks to his very controlled/restricted upbringing. In FFVII, he's mad at Shinra and the rest of the world from taking the planet from "mother," but I think that in CC, he's also angry and sad because he lost his friends as well :( All he has left is Jenova.
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SOLDIERs Genesis, Sephiroth, and Angeal--Before they all went crazy and MIA/dead.

I am actually glad to have antagonists which have more story and seem to be human (even if it is not the best word for Sephiroth but when it comes to his first reactions and all plus his arrogance then it is the right word). No one in our world we call or called evil did something evil just cause - except he/she was just insane and even then it normally is based on something human. You can clearly see that he has become the emotionless son of JENOVA which is acting instinctively who wants to do what she did but other than JENOVA he has a real personality and really wants to do what he does because he wants to become more powerful while JENOVA "is programmed to travel around, inject cells, absorb, reunite and repeat the cycle". He is the better version of JENOVA who can only feel joy again when he demonstrates his power. Evil is not just meaningless destruction (of course this is also evil). There can also be human motives. Sephiroth is the Darth Vader of Final Fantasy.

I never had a particular appreciation for Sephiroth. I didn't think he sucked either. I thought he worked as Cloud's enemy.
My favorite FFVII villain remains Genesis. Partially due to the fact that it's apparently akin to raping fans of Sephiroth or just straight-Genesis-haters. I like that too. Whenever someone comments after my posts about liking Genesis about how I suck or they hate Genesis, I think "I've just raped you."

"Sephiroth's strength is unreal. He is far stronger in reality than any story you might have heard about him."

- Cloud Strife, Kalm 1997.

Man, the way he was designed: the black trenchcoat, the silver hair, the white enameled shoulder pads, and the eyes... Mako eyes. Creepy, powerful, effective.

Maybe my favorite villain. Underappreciated, these days, if anything. The only downside is he was a psychopath for the majority of the present story.

I agree with whoever said he's as polarizing as FFVII itself. Although the FFVII hate has largely died down. I think it's funny that Flying Mullet and them have that "kinda fake for fun but not really" VII hate thread - because all of their criticisms are largely ridiculous and unintentionally hilarious. I mean, seriously, go back to one of the older threads of EoFFers hating on this game, or the reasons they give for hating Sephiroth. It's hilarious the bottom of the barrel, grasping-for-straws logic behind the utterly incredulous criticisms of FFVII.

It was a landmark game and Sephiroth was an unforgettable villain. That is all.

I was the one that posted the momma's boy comment. I'm sorry for any drama/ heat I've caused. I just can't stand Sephiroth.

I'll let this thread be to his fans. :jess:

I think any "momma's boy" attitude he has is probably allowable. I mean way to find out you're a genetically modified man whose sole purpose is to like destroy trout with ease. He didn't exactly have a good upbringing and I'm sure we can all agree that sort of environment isn't conducive to "normal" people :p

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Originally Posted by Bolivar

I think it's funny that Flying Mullet and them have that "kinda fake for fun but not really" VII hate thread...

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Fake? It wasn't fake when Sephiroth pinched my butt in the shower or asked me to wear a furry outfit and dance slowly to The Beach Boys' Kokomo. :cry: