FFXII: Vindicated by history?

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Originally Posted by AlaynaMae

• the characters were interesting and were not simply reboots of similar archetypes as are often found in not just FF games but RPGs in general (oh man I have too many feels regarding Balthier and Fran)

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BalthierxFran is my ultimate OTP :love:

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Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn

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Originally Posted by AlaynaMae

• the characters were interesting and were not simply reboots of similar archetypes as are often found in not just FF games but RPGs in general (oh man I have too many feels regarding Balthier and Fran)

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BalthierxFran is my ultimate OTP :love:

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They're both smokin' hot, aren't explicitly together, are both brilliantly independent in their own right and are such a fantastically atypical couple. I honestly cannot get enough of them.

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Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn

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Originally Posted by AlaynaMae

• the characters were interesting and were not simply reboots of similar archetypes as are often found in not just FF games but RPGs in general (oh man I have too many feels regarding Balthier and Fran)

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BalthierxFran is my ultimate OTP :love:

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But isn't Fran like a rabbit/ bunny rabbit chick ???

That's racist, maybs.

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Originally Posted by maybee

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Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn

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Originally Posted by AlaynaMae

• the characters were interesting and were not simply reboots of similar archetypes as are often found in not just FF games but RPGs in general (oh man I have too many feels regarding Balthier and Fran)

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BalthierxFran is my ultimate OTP :love:

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But isn't Fran like a rabbit/ bunny rabbit chick ???

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She's a viera. But yes, bunny ears are the height of fashion.

Dayum, it's Fran.

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Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn

That's racist, maybs.

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I like Fran, she was only of the very few characters that I liked, her and Larsa.

But rabbit + man


errr, getting kinda bestially -ish

She looks more woman than bunny.

Its okay to not like furrirs, there are a lot of people who don't

When I played it, I thought the pacing of the story was poor even though the plot and delivery were both excellent. I loved every other aspect that I can now remember.

Now, looking back, I've come to the conclusion that despite having an excellent plot that was well-told when told, the pacing was pretty awful, but every other part of the game I can currently remember was wonderful.

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Originally Posted by Quinoa

When I played it, I thought the pacing of the story was poor even though the plot and delivery were both excellent. I loved every other aspect that I can now remember.

Now, looking back, I've come to the conclusion that despite having an excellent plot that was well-told when told, the pacing was pretty awful, but every other part of the game I can currently remember was wonderful.

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Issues with pacing are an incredibly valid complaint in my book. I think my experiences with MMOs where I used to run around and avoid the storyline for ages anyway made this aspect of FFXII either less obvious or less bothersome to me.

It gets a lot of flak, but I really don't think it was THAT bad. I love the battle system and the art design, but the plot and characters just didn't do it for me.

Aren't all Viera female, or am I misremembering?

Because if they are, who helps make their babies? Do they reproduce asexually? Does having relations with other races lead to Viera babies?

I read a long time ago that there are males but they apparently live in their own society and the two sexes only meet to reproduce.

Oh, interesting

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Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn

I loved it from the start but didn't really understand why until my second play through. I love how different it is. I loved the world, the music, the battle system - I really think FF needed more of that sort of things. And I really did enjoy the story and characters. Here's where Skyblade and I completely disagree - I think the writing is one of the more subtle, refined and mature within the whole series and the characters seem much more like actual human beings than in any game befor, especially X :D

And I'm glad more people have come to appreciate it lately. It's like Jess said - this is probably the most underrated title. At the very least, it's the most divisive. Too bad Japan still doesn't like it. That probably means we'll never see an HD remake.

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Post needs quoting. I always hate when people nudge you on to keep playing games you don't like with promises of "it gets better." But as disgusting as it sounds, XII really is a game you need to play twice to truly begin appreciating just what it did for RPGs. I replayed the thing 3 or 4 times in the first year or so of it being out.

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Originally Posted by Bolivar

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Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn

I loved it from the start but didn't really understand why until my second play through. I love how different it is. I loved the world, the music, the battle system - I really think FF needed more of that sort of things. And I really did enjoy the story and characters. Here's where Skyblade and I completely disagree - I think the writing is one of the more subtle, refined and mature within the whole series and the characters seem much more like actual human beings than in any game befor, especially X :D

And I'm glad more people have come to appreciate it lately. It's like Jess said - this is probably the most underrated title. At the very least, it's the most divisive. Too bad Japan still doesn't like it. That probably means we'll never see an HD remake.

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Post needs quoting. I always hate when people nudge you on to keep playing games you don't like with promises of "it gets better." But as disgusting as it sounds, XII really is a game you need to play twice to truly begin appreciating just what it did for RPGs. I replayed the thing 3 or 4 times in the first year or so of it being out.

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I played through till past the Great Crystal, and it hasn't gotten better yet. "Appreciate what it did for RPGs"? I'm sorry, I don't appreciate removing almost all of the most important aspects and replacing them with the mindless grind and repetition of the standard MMO.