One Smooth Talking 14 Year Old!

"ok maybe i went a bit overboard over Unne,s comment. but i do think it was a bit too insulting to teenagers intellegence. serious"

i know what you mean. i hate it when kids, even little kids, dont get enough credit. sigmond frueid (sp?) even said "what an alarming and stark contrast between the radiating intelligence of the child, and the utter stupidity of the average adult" yet children are viewed as inferior. people are stupid enough to mistake naievity(sp?) with stupidity. i believe children are just as smart as any adult, they jsut have less experiance.

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Originally Posted by aeris2001x2

ok maybe i went a bit overboard over Unne,s comment. but i do think it was a bit too insulting to teenagers intellegence. serious question: are you like in your thirtys and cant remember being a teenager?

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Dr Unne might not be in his thirty's, but I remember when I was 13 and 14 and 15 and 16 and 17...I thought I knew everything. In fact, I didn't only think that I knew everything. I knew that I knew everything. Boy, was I wrong. Those laws are there for a very good reason. Some teenagers might be adult enough to make their own decisions, but the laws are there to protect the ones who can't.

Small children are wise - teenagers are dumbarses.

That lucky son of a *****.

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Originally Posted by Cloud_99

ooooooooooooooooookay then :confused:

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I dont think I need to repeat what he said...

I agree with Leeza on this. The woman is probably innocent IMO. I think this was just a stupid prank to get the teacher screwed.

it is my opinion that at 14 the boy hasn't fully come to terms with puberty and still is having trouble controling his urges. He is an easy target for child molesters. On the same token he could been the one to instegate such an act out of his own diprivety of sex. Or this could be a repeat of the Michael Jackson case where the boy and his family lied about it.

Doesn't she got shame????????

She should have!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Alusiasa

Where a 14-year old boy gets a "cool" reputation, a 14-year old girl would end up with the reputation of being a slut. Or she would have to say that the teacher forced himself on her, which would make him a rapist.

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So true.

While she hasn't admitted guilt, I can read from the first paragraph: "Detectives said that the cousins provided matching statements incriminating Debra Beasley Lafave and that the 14-year-old described Lafave's apartment and her tattoos and birthmarks." Which, in my book, is fairly hard to randomly guess. It doesn't mean she's guilty, but I think that's one thing that made the law take the thing seriously.

On to other things, like 14-year old kids thinking they know what's good for them. As Leeza and Unne said, it's possible that some do. A small minority. Now the law is here for the majority. And it doesn't matter if you're 6 or 14, as long as you're under the legal age of consent for your state, you cannot have consentual sex, because the law doesn't recognize the right for you to give that consent. So, in regards of the law, it doesn't matter who started the relation. Now if you disagree, vote and-- oh wait, you can't vote either. Looks like you'll have to abide by the law, then. Maybe there's a reason you can't vote either. :p Like how teenagers (especially males) think with their genitals.

As for the kid being "lucky", if she was a girl, you would ALL have called her a slut/whore/whatelse. But it's a boy, so he "scored", he's "lucky", he'll be "the hero". That's a good example of how you can't make a reasonable judgement, too.

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Originally Posted by Endless

While she hasn't admitted guilt, I can read from the first paragraph: "Detectives said that the cousins provided matching statements incriminating Debra Beasley Lafave and that the 14-year-old described Lafave's apartment and her tattoos and birthmarks." Which, in my book, is fairly hard to randomly guess. It doesn't mean she's guilty, but I think that's one thing that made the law take the thing seriously.

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To me, those matching statements sound like the boys could have sat down and decided on what to say after maybe seeing a picture of her apartment. Sometimes, people take pictures and bring them in to work where anyone can see them. Or, maybe they were at her apartment for some fabricated reason just so that they could see it. Birthmarks and tattoos can be seen on anyone wearing a bathing suit so they're quite easy as well for anyone to know about. A lot more information is needed here in order for me to see any guilt.

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Originally Posted by Leeza

To me, those matching statements sound like the boys could have sat down and decided on what to say after maybe seeing a picture of her apartment. Sometimes, people take pictures and bring them in to work where anyone can see them. Or, maybe they were at her apartment for some fabricated reason just so that they could see it. Birthmarks and tattoos can be seen on anyone wearing a bathing suit so they're quite easy as well for anyone to know about. A lot more information is needed here in order for me to see any guilt.

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but she will get convicted anyway. thats how it always goes... its innocent until proven... err... wait its guilty. period.

to be honest when your teenager u should be allowed to have consentual sex if u want. yes your going 2 screw up and act stuiped alot but they can choose for themselves. they dont need a nanny state telling them what to do and think, that they are automotons who cant make a rational judgement because they r too obsessed with sex.

if we banned everything that could lead to damaging of health for teenagers, lets ban running, eating, playing outside, having friends, sports etc let us teenagers learn our lessons about sex as teenagers so we can become more responsible adult ppl with such experiences. in this case demon-ising the adult and stuiped-ifing the teenager is just cruel.

Explain to me how having a kid when you're 14 makes you a "responsible adult"? Are you ready to get a job? Is your education finished (*insert comment about your spelling here*)? Can you live on your own? Pay a rent? Pay the child's care? The food? The clothes? Medication? (*) You may think you know everything, but the fact is, you don't. When you're 14 or 15, you don't know all that comes with "having a child". 16 year old barely know, and at 18 we *think* you know enough. Because at 18 your're on your own, you aren't your parents' resposability anymore, so if you screw things up, the authorities go after *you*, not after your mom and dad.

(*) If any of you tells me that "mom and/or dad will help me out", you're just proving my point why kids shouldn't not have sex: you expect your parents to take/share the burden and responsability of your actions. Ergo, you are not ready.

teenagers have the option of using protection/ morning after pill to eliminate that eventuality and its those ppl who r dumb enough to allow an unwanted pregnency (unless there was a fault with the protection or pill) give other teenagers a bad name. as long as they dont bring a child into the world by staying safe(and thus not being imparted a sexually transmited diease as well) there is nought wrong with consentual teenage sex.

p.s- what is wrong with my spelling? i admit i,m not flawless but the only flaws i can see is some obscure gramatical flaws. why pick such low tactics into a vain attempt to invalidate my opinion?