ULTIMA WEAPON

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Originally Posted by Shoden

Omega weapon was stronger as one of his attacks did 9998 t all characters and plus its hard to get all your commands unlocked in the castle and by the time you reach omega you may have used all them phoenix downs heroes and potions so your at a disadvantage ultima only does 9999 to one character and has auto haste equipped so it has the same speed as omega at default plus omega had stronger attacks ultima just had basic attack light pillar and gravija. so technically Omega owns it ultima looked better i defeated ultima in my 2nd attempt as i forgot to draw eden from him

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1) the Light Pillar attack can be more dangerous than Megido Flame since it finish off 1 of your characters while you can easily survive Megido Flame if all your characters have 9999HP and then counter it with a megaelexir. 2) The DSRF is much, much whorse than the castle + who needs pheonix downs? Full Life, man! On the other hand... you don't need reviving stuff at all while fighting Omega. And hero-items= cheat. 3) Yes, Ultima Weapon is auto-hasted but it still makes him faster + even without the auto-haste he's about 40% faster than Omega. 4) Ultima Weapon have higher atk, mag and spr stats. 5) He don't only have those attacks... he use Meteor and Quake as well. 6) The greatest advantage of all... what really make Ultima Weapon stronger... Omega Weapon is predictable and Ultima Weapon is not! 3 unpredictable Light Pillars in a row is much more dangerous than any of Omega Weapons predictable moves.

dont get it as 9998 to all chars and depending on your stats omega weapon could attack straight after thats what happened to me and that got me pissed off bad. ultima weapon was easy it had low vitality so i didnt use meltdown just 2 rounds of rezokukens + lionheart and ultima was dead whlst it took eden boosted to 210 and 5 lionhearts to kill omega and i ran out of items and squall was down to 1 hp

well Ultima weapon had low defense and attack power it relied on magic attacks so you could of easilly countered them with doomtrain = a few nomral attacks and you have a Babrbequesd ultima weapon

EDIT: Please don't double post. -Murder

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Originally Posted by Shoden

dont get it as 9998 to all chars and depending on your stats omega weapon could attack straight after thats what happened to me and that got me pissed off bad. ultima weapon was easy it had low vitality so i didnt use meltdown just 2 rounds of rezokukens + lionheart and ultima was dead whlst it took eden boosted to 210 and 5 lionhearts to kill omega and i ran out of items and squall was down to 1 hp

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1) Omega is either harder or easier than Ultima Weapon depending on your knowledge about Omega. If you know enough about Omega Weapon and the way he attack, then you can defeat him without having any of your characters KOed even once. I can fight Omega Weapon and be 100% sure that I will win the battle as long as there's no bug that will ruin it all.
2) Ultima Weapon have about the 3th highest vit out of all bosses in the whole game and Omegas is just slightly higher + that can be ignored thanks to meltdown.
3) Don't use Lion Heart. Fight fair! :p

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Originally Posted by Shoden

well Ultima weapon had low defense and attack power it relied on magic attacks so you could of easilly countered them with doomtrain = a few nomral attacks and you have a Babrbequesd ultima weapon

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:O_O: Ummm... Ultima Weapon have the highest attack power in the whole game! At level 100 it's 254!!! Just 1 less than completely maxed out!!! Also... he seem to attack twice in the same turn sometimes...
If you belive a boss is hard because you have to hit it many times... then Omega is harder... if not... then it's Ultima.
ps: don't double post.

hmmm Ultima s defense was low even when i didnt use meltdown ultima was quite predictable as it only done light pillar after you attacked with hi damage while omega had several brutal attacks if you casted silence on ultima then all you need to woory bout is light pillar ultima has a weakness not critically hi strength vitality and silencing it makes it easy it has a lack of attacks while omega had a few

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Originally Posted by Shoden

hmmm Ultima s defense was low even when i didnt use meltdown ultima was quite predictable as it only done light pillar after you attacked with hi damage while omega had several brutal attacks if you casted silence on ultima then all you need to woory bout is light pillar ultima has a weakness not critically hi strength vitality and silencing it makes it easy it has a lack of attacks while omega had a few

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Well, Omegas defense isn't much higher...
Ultima Weapon is not predictable. All Omegas attacks could easily be countered without causing any harm at all. Silence? Ultima Weapon is immune to all status effects but meltdown and aura! Atleast in the PS version when fought at level 60+...
Ultima Weapon have no weakpoint...
Ultima Weapon have higher str than any other creature in the game!
Ultima Weapon have 5 attacks and Omega have 7 but 1 of Omegas attacks is only used once in the whole battle. (lvl5 death)

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as long as you don't play the PS version and ONLY level with some character that's not Squall...
Ok, then it's possible, I guess, but only in the PS... since the partys average level will go far beyond 8-9 if 1 of them is level 100.

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You can do that in the PC version too, just level characters you are not going to use for the battle.

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If you belive a boss is hard because you have to hit it many times... then Omega is harder... if not... then it's Ultima.

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They are both a cakewalk because:
1. There are 3-4 characters limit breaks (Irvine's fast shot, Rinoa's angel wing, Zell's duel or Squall's lionheart) which can kill ultima almost immediately (even at level 100). (which basically means unless you have super low defense, he cannot kill you fast enough)
2. Omega is predictable and slow and can be wiped out with him getting only a couple of turns.

Eden boosted to 210?

Dude, rethink your boosting abilities. You should be able to get her to 250 with no problem (which is the max. I usually get this about when the planet turns into a clock, give or take a little while.)

Perhaps you're holding the controller wrong. I find wedging my left thumb into the select button hurts, but it's the easiest way to hold it. (and I mean that sucker hurts, I'm surprised it isn't callused:/) then try wrapping your hand around the right side of the controll, using one of your three middle fingers on your right hand to boost.

Using your thumb is just dumb. (of course, if you're playing without a controller like this, well, then, good luck^^)

Bleh, you can't hardly control when you get lionheart anyways, usually it's just the equivilant of another hit with renzokuken;P

(and now I wish I hadn't played Ultima in my current game already. all this stuff is sort of interesting:P)

what do you mean i used silence no problem on ultima and i find it hard to keep track of pressing square all the time it isnt really easy to get it 250 as i dont like using my fingers im comftable using my thumb. it depends on what lvl you fight ultima and omega at if you fight omega 80+ then he has 1000 extra health more attack power vitality and skills ultima just uses light pillar more often. Ultima was slightly hard but when i fought omega i got very frustrated coz once i figred out one pattern he changed to another my game doesnt like me!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Auronhart

You can do that in the PC version too, just level characters you are not going to use for the battle.

They are both a cakewalk because:
1. There are 3-4 characters limit breaks (Irvine's fast shot, Rinoa's angel wing, Zell's duel or Squall's lionheart) which can kill ultima almost immediately (even at level 100). (which basically means unless you have super low defense, he cannot kill you fast enough)
2. Omega is predictable and slow and can be wiped out with him getting only a couple of turns.

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Oh... well, by average party level I thought ALL characters where included. I've never played the PC one. :p
And, yea... it's all true. They are both easy wimps... and so is all the other bosses in the whole game. But Ultima Weapon can atleast finish off 1 of your characters with light pillar. Omega can't.

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Originally Posted by Shoden

what do you mean i used silence no problem on ultima and i find it hard to keep track of pressing square all the time it isnt really easy to get it 250 as i dont like using my fingers im comftable using my thumb. it depends on what lvl you fight ultima and omega at if you fight omega 80+ then he has 1000 extra health more attack power vitality and skills ultima just uses light pillar more often. Ultima was slightly hard but when i fought omega i got very frustrated coz once i figred out one pattern he changed to another my game doesnt like me!!!!!!!!

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Ok, you're playing the PC version... the PS one is much better. :p
Well, Omega NEVER change attack pattern... it was just your imagnation. Omega is the greatest wimp.

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Ok, you're playing the PS version... the PS one is much better.

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I usually play the PS one (I bought the PS version because my PC one was failing) and yes it is better in every way except for the graphics. The PC version is easy for me to test stuff though, because saves don't take up space on my memory cards.

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Originally Posted by Auronhart

I usually play the PS one (I bought the PS version because my PC one was failing) and yes it is better in every way except for the graphics. The PC version is easy for me to test stuff though, because saves don't take up space on my memory cards.

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Erm... I meaned that he was playing the PC and not PS. My mistake... since I wrote PS anyway. :rolleyes2
Because like he said, Omega leveled... and in the PS version he don't + it's impossible to silence Ultima Weapon.
He seem to play the PC version but the PS is much better. That's what I tried to say! :p *edits*

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Because like he said, Omega leveled

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Oh, I see what you are saying. Yes, Omega does level in the PC version. (which I personally think is kind of ridiculuous (I mean he's already super easy....Unless we are talking about the no-junction omega challenge))

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when i fought omega i got very frustrated coz once i figred out one pattern he changed to another my game doesnt like me!!!!!!!!

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His pattern never changes, (even in the PC version) except sometimes he adds a normal attack in between his set attacks.

The Ultima Weapon can't be that awful.. it's second to the Omega Weapon. Now that's something to be afraid of.

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Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow

Oh... well, by average party level I thought ALL characters where included. I've never played the PC one. :p
And, yea... it's all true. They are both easy wimps... and so is all the other bosses in the whole game. But Ultima Weapon can atleast finish off 1 of your characters with light pillar. Omega can't.

Ok, you're playing the PC version... the PS one is much better. :p
Well, Omega NEVER change attack pattern... it was just your imagnation. Omega is the greatest wimp.

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what!!!! i have the playstation one special edition ff8 Omega weapon done megido flame then an attack killing all in my party as i only had enough spells to max out squalls health to 9999 i think it's kinda my fault for not drawing spells in disc 2 and 3 though but ultima did subdue to a silence that lasted 4 turns and no other silences worked after that

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Originally Posted by Angel Rinoa

The Ultima Weapon can't be that awful.. it's second to the Omega Weapon. Now that's something to be afraid of.

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AAARGH!!! I can't stand this! Omega Weapon is an EXTREMELY overrated wimp!!! :(

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Originally Posted by Shoden

what!!!! i have the playstation one special edition ff8 Omega weapon done megido flame then an attack killing all in my party as i only had enough spells to max out squalls health to 9999 i think it's kinda my fault for not drawing spells in disc 2 and 3 though but ultima did subdue to a silence that lasted 4 turns and no other silences worked after that

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Oh... but you said Omega leveled with you... and he doesn't in the PS version. He's permanent at level 100. Also, anyone who knows Omega Weapon good enough and have some kind of way to heal your party good enough in 1 turn can beat Omega without having even 1 character KOed even once. Om,ega Weapon is slow... therefore you should be able to heal after Megido Flame long before Omega can attack you again. If your characters are too slow... then just have 1 character on standby until Omega use Megido Flame and then heal. People think Omega Weapon is hard only because they ignore his obivious attack pattern. :tongue:

ps: Ultima Weapon is IMMUNE to silence... therefore I find it a bit strange that you could use it on him.