"Abusing" the swear filter

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03-01-2005, 08:42 PM
Shlup

1) Because its annoying. I usually don't change it if the swear was used in an okay context though. And what BoB said.

2) Yes. They don't just check once and then stop caring. Spiders, you know.

And you so did not just say "draconian enforcement." xD
03-01-2005, 08:51 PM
edczxcvbnm

I wouldn't say that I don't care. I would say that I am uncomfortably content. But after waging this war for what? 3 or so years, this is probably about the best comprimise I can hope for. After 3 years I just go "At least I got them to stop editting edits."
03-01-2005, 08:55 PM
Shlup

Well a person can only hear so many "bleeps" before they change the channel. Your swearing doesn't bother me though, ed. I usually tune you out anyway. ;)
03-01-2005, 08:57 PM
Raistlin

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1) Because its annoying. I usually don't change it if the swear was used in an okay context though. And what BoB said.

Personal preferences != good rules. Post counts were taken away, not because people were complaining about post counts, or found them irritating or annoying or whatever, but because it had the direct result of limiting spam. It was better for the board.

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2) Yes. They don't just check once and then stop caring. Spiders, you know.

Huh?

EDIT: Nevermind; I just had to look back at my question to understand your answer. But anyway, then the swear filter itself is fine.

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And you so did not just say "draconian enforcement." xD

You're damn right I did. You got a problem with it? >=o
03-01-2005, 09:00 PM
edczxcvbnm

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Originally Posted by ShlupQuack

Well a person can only hear so many "bleeps" before they change the channel. Your swearing doesn't bother me though, ed. I usually tune you out anyway. ;)

I thought I had been doing a fairly good job of keeping it down...until I decided to for that election party with heartshot. Then I felt the need to swear more just for the sake of the party and stuff. It takes time to go back. Habits die hard :crying2:
03-01-2005, 09:07 PM
Shlup

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

Personal preferences != good rules. Post counts were taken away, not because people were complaining about post counts, or found them irritating or annoying or whatever, but because it had the direct result of limiting spam. It was better for the board.

I don't understand what one has to do with the other. You saying that us trying to do things to discourage swearing in the same way we removed post counts in order to discourage spamming is good or bad?

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

You're damn right I did. You got a problem with it? >=o

Depends on what you mean by it. To someone who doesn't no any better, that would likely imply the use of rules without question or reason. But, knowing draconians, I would say that it'd more accurately implicate that we're all enforcing what's best for us, as a draconian, in the end, only follows what suits him best. Or something. I hear the draconian race seems a bit more complicated if you read Draconian Measures, but haven't.

Besides the fact that you're a giant nerd. NERD!

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Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm

I thought I had been doing a fairly good job of keeping it down...until I decided to for that election party with heartshot. Then I felt the need to swear more just for the sake of the party and stuff. It takes time to go back. Habits die hard :crying2:

I honestly don't notice it anyway. Its not me that the swearing bothers, unless someone's going around the swear filter for no reason other than they want to swear. Most of the time when I see someone going around the swear filter it doesn't bother me personally though. *shrug*
03-01-2005, 09:09 PM
Loony BoB

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

Personal preferences != good rules.

You're damned right! Which is why your personal preference of having more swear words removed is being declined. :D
03-01-2005, 09:25 PM
Raistlin

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You're damned right! Which is why your personal preference of having more swear words removed is being declined.

No, my personal preference is that the swear filter be removed entirely. However, thinking of Cid and the members and the general outlook of the board, I would agree that the best course of action would be the keep the swear filter, but not have the enforcement be by one moderator taking things to extremes. The mere fact that only one staffer does it shows that most of the members don't give a damn.

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I don't understand what one has to do with the other. You saying that us trying to do things to discourage swearing in the same way we removed post counts in order to discourage spamming is good or bad?

I'm saying that in the first case(removal of post counts), the staff took the good of the board over any personal preferences. It was obvious that removing the post counts would directly help the board by not having any encouragement for spam. No subjectiveness, no personal opinions: just fact.
The unreasonable extreme of editting and warning people who try to "get around the filter" has nothing to do with objectivity or facts. It's sheer personal preference of one specific staff member.

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Depends on what you mean by it. To someone who doesn't no any better, that would likely imply the use of rules without question or reason. But, knowing draconians, I would say that it'd more accurately implicate that we're all enforcing what's best for us, as a draconian, in the end, only follows what suits him best. Or something. I hear the draconian race seems a bit more complicated if you read Draconian Measures, but haven't.

Besides the fact that you're a giant nerd. NERD!

Wait...I'm the nerd for using a legitimate English word...and you're not a nerd for taking that aforementioned word out of context and using it in the context of a fantasy book series?
03-01-2005, 09:29 PM
Shlup

Its a real word? o.O Is not!

And there is no "one specific staff member taking things to extremes." When was the last time this "one staff member" did anything you're accusing her of? Was it before the last time this was brought up? 'Cause I'm pretty sure it was. The issue has already been addressed, taken care of, laid to rest. If the whole point of this thread was just to say "stop dong that thing" then there's no reason for it 'cause she already did, although I think its sad that's she's had to come under such scrutiny for something that shouldn't be a big deal, and feels less comfortable here because some people value their swear words.
03-01-2005, 09:30 PM
Dr Unne

Raist, you've convinced me to start editing people's profanities again. Apparently I don't exist otherwise, since only one specific person in the whole world cares about people swearing.
03-01-2005, 09:33 PM
Raistlin

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And there is no "one specific staff member taking things to extremes." When was the last time this "one staff member" did anything you're accusing her of? Was it before the last time this was brought up? 'Cause I'm pretty sure it was. The issue has already been addressed, taken care of, laid to rest. If the whole point of this thread was just to say "stop dong that thing" then there's no reason for it 'cause she already did

...That's not what Kishi told me! >=o

He just told me the Staff discussion had fizzled out, or something("no decisions had been made").

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Raist, you've convinced me to start editing people's profanities again. Apparently I don't exist otherwise, since only one specific person in the whole world cares about people swearing.

There's a distinct difference between editting profanities of someone cussing-out someone/thing and someone just saying on swear word in the middle of a thoughtful post.

Oh, and go to *arf*.:p
03-01-2005, 09:37 PM
m4tt

I edit out swear words in the FF forums all the time. I even edit out things like "i think tidus is GAY cuz he looks GAY OMG GAY!" because it's offensive and immature. So it's not just one mod doing it.
03-01-2005, 09:40 PM
Shlup

That's what you get for listening to Kishi!
03-01-2005, 10:07 PM
Loony BoB

*raises hand* I comment out filthy language from time to time. Just not as often, but then Leeza checks reported posts far, far more often than I do, too. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be checked. What Leeza, Matt and I do is done not out of personal preference but with the backing of staff.

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No, my personal preference is that the swear filter be removed entirely. However, thinking of Cid and the members and the general outlook of the board, I would agree that the best course of action would be the keep the swear filter, but not have the enforcement be by one moderator taking things to extremes. The mere fact that only one staffer does it shows that most of the members don't give a damn.

We're LAZY. That's all. :p But it still seems like you're voicing your personal preferences. We have rules in place that are based on discussions we have in staff and anything you see done is done in accordance to our rules. It seems to be your personal preference that we stop editing out such words.

Also, how would this change that you are suggesting be good for the boards? As far as I know it would only serve to be a discomfort to certain members. Are you discomforted somehow? Is there any other reason you want this rule changed? If not, you haven't got any better argument than they do, that's for sure.
03-01-2005, 11:45 PM
Agent Proto

Ok, so it's a staff-backed up thing. Alright. I can agree with that. :thumb:

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