i understand your reasons for not liking it, but that same reason is a reason why i DO like it... a lot of final fantasys to hold a love/hate relationship with a lot of people, we could go forever on who is wrong and who is right, but really no one is right and no one is wrong... its not like im here to change someones point of view, i was just wondering if anyone else felt the same way i do about FF8... a lot of people do... a lot of people dont