Tales of Symphonia

Lloyd is much akin to Cless, Colette is much akin to Mint, both characters from ToP, which is a fair point to base characters on since it was an earlier game in the series.

I'm sure there's some kind of basis for all of the characters from other Tales games too.

But EVERY DAMN HERO is either obsessed with justice and protecting people, or at first doesn't care and the ends up being obsessed with justice and protecting people.

You'd be hard pushed to find a different hero-archtype.

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Originally Posted by NM

If you really want to know, Lone Wolf Leonhart i'll tell you. (SPOILER) Kratos does turn on you, but it's not for money, he has other motives.

The plot for me is very similar to FFX as well. A chosen one and her group of protectors visiting shrines to pray to save the world, as told by religious teachings. Someone having to sacrifice themselves for the good of everyone else. Someone else not agreeing with that, and finding another way, to save the world and keep the other person alive. If that isn't Final Fantasy X's plot copied, then what is! Alright there are other elements to the story, but the basic plot is the same as FFX.

As for predictable plot. I'll agree with that. I figured out something about Kratos in the first couple hours of the game, thats finally revealed in the last few hours, of the story.

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(SPOILER)Does He ever join with you again after that?

You get a replacement for Kratos in a while, but much later on in the game you get a choice between Kratos and the new fellow.

At a point MUCH later on in the game when NEITHER of these two are in your party, you'll come to a town called Flanoir, and people will come to comfort Lloyd. Refuse every single one of them, and the last person to appear will be Kratos, or accept any of them and the other fellow who joins you will stay and Kratos will never come back.

You may think now you want Kratos back, but wait for the new guy, he's much more fun.

Yeah, I chose Kratos at first. =/

On my next playthrough, I'll probably pick the other dude.

And in case you still can't tell.. yes, I've played this game, beat it, and loved it.

Is it at all turn based or is it X-2 hit the attack button until all are dead ordeal. I think X had a perfect story line and I can't see it being remade and extended. I am saying this because I was deciding between LOTF:the third age and TOS. i love turn based which is why my FFCC is gathering dust and I won't buy X-2.

Nope, it real time, in a sense. You see the monsters you fight on the world/dungeon map, and when you touch them it opens the battle screen. However, all the attacks/things you do during battle occur in real time, but are still a breeze to pull off, thanks to it's control scheme, which is great in my opinion. It's quite unique, which is one of the reasons why I like it.

So its like Paper Marios touch battles mixed with Quests 64's real life battle with hint of X-2 non turn battle?

I bought it a week ago and right now Im fighting Kilia (SPOILER)or that Desian posing as her.The story was slow to start off but its growing on me. Its better than your average RPG if you ask me.

Still not better than Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Still not better than Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.

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Yeah Chris, good to know ;)

Everyone needs to listen to Lindy more often. He's right.

Final Fantasy X and Tales of Symphonia really aren't the same. Thankfully so, since FFX was terrible. But, I don't intend to argue that, since I'm not going to change any minds.

However, one thing I found particularly interesting about connections between ToP and ToS was:
(SPOILER) In Tales of Phantasia, if you check a bookshelf in Alvanista's Castle [In the Past], you learn about the world's two moons: Sylvarant and Tethe'alla. Of course, as those of you reading this know, are the two worlds of Tales of Symphonia. Though this breaks continuity to some extent, it's a nice nod to Tales of Phantasia.

I'm a fan of little things like that.

Anyways, I've heard a few negative comments about the voice actors in Tales of Symphonia, and to be honest, I thought they were great. Certainly a more believable performance than many other highly praised games that I may, or may not have mentioned earlier in this post.

While not my favorite game, Tales of Symphonia was a wonderful game, and is easily one of my favorites.

If you think tales of symphonia and FFX are releated then you clearly havent played much of the game. Tales of Symphonias plot goes much much deeper than FFX and becomes slightly FFVish. But theres also all the complications with the renegades, The Desians true purpose, Kratos's hidden agenda, The great seed, The flow of mana and I dont have a clue whats happening with that young boy named Mithos wether hes a reincarnation or something along those lines and I havent even passed the first disc. The games story is much longer and deeper than FFX and goes off in a totally different direction in a short time.
(the voice acting in Tales of Symphonia wasnt anything special and I thought X's was pretty good)

akg you horrible people you have forced me to play ToS again :D

I don't really get into RPGs that much anymore, but I did play this one about a year ago (I think, whenever it came out.) I loved it. People have knocked the story for being typical RPG cliche etc. etc. but I was pretty captivated by it.

I didn't really find much fault with the game, really. Reading through this thread has made me want to play it again! Oh, and I agree with pretty much everything Lindy has said.

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Originally Posted by Lindy

You get a replacement for Kratos in a while, but much later on in the game you get a choice between Kratos and the new fellow.

At a point MUCH later on in the game when NEITHER of these two are in your party, you'll come to a town called Flanoir, and people will come to comfort Lloyd. Refuse every single one of them, and the last person to appear will be Kratos, or accept any of them and the other fellow who joins you will stay and Kratos will never come back.

You may think now you want Kratos back, but wait for the new guy, he's much more fun.

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You mean Zelos right? I havent gotten that far yet.