FF VII was never fiished Aerth was to be (ya know)

You can't make it to Mideel with the tiny bronco. the beach there is cut off from everywhere else.

so can you take ares to Wutia in disk 1?
i mean in the weopn shop they sell a rod for her but she is death by the time i got ther.
i never found a way to get ther...

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Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD

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Originally Posted by KaiserDragon

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Barret doesn't see Marlene during the game after leaving her in Elmyra's care, nor would the church have looked the same if the scene had taken place after the game due to the damage rendered to Midgar and the church during Meteor's descent (as can be seen by comparing shots of the church during the game to shots of the church in Advent Children):

Barret and Marlene in Aerith's Church.
Aerith's Church in Advent Children.

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actully he goes and see's her just before the final battle, when cloud and tifa have there time alone

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Then he would have gone to Kalm and not Midgar. Marlene was in Kalm.

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that is not so as at the end you see marlene in her room in midgar, as i distinctly remember barret saying somthing along the lines of "sh'it what about marleen" or somehting like that, ill keep you updated as im about to play the game again

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Originally Posted by TurkSlayer

I believe Aeris was intended to die at a later time (after the change from the original script, of course), mainly from the fact of her dialog after her death and evidence I've found on several websites. One is the fact that in the Debug Room, you can acess a secret cave that plays Aeris's theme in the back ground.

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Those later lines are generic things like Aerith's "I'm sick of this" line when the party crashes at the Great Glacier after riding on the snowboard. For that matter, Cid and Yuffie can have lines as early as the Mithril Mines, yet neither can be acquired that early in normal game play.

As for that cave, it was only a third rendering of the Materia Tree area: Linkage.

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Originally Posted by fireemblem776

You can't make it to Mideel with the tiny bronco. the beach there is cut off from everywhere else.

so can you take ares to Wutia in disk 1?
i mean in the weopn shop they sell a rod for her but she is death by the time i got ther.
i never found a way to get ther...

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Yes, one can get to Wutai on Disc 1.

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Barret doesn't see Marlene during the game after leaving her in Elmyra's care, nor would the church have looked the same if the scene had taken place after the game due to the damage rendered to Midgar and the church during Meteor's descent (as can be seen by comparing shots of the church during the game to shots of the church in Advent Children):

Barret and Marlene in Aerith's Church.
Aerith's Church in Advent Children.

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actully he goes and see's her just before the final battle, when cloud and tifa have there time alone

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Then he would have gone to Kalm and not Midgar. Marlene was in Kalm.

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that is not so as at the end you see marlene in her room in midgar, as i distinctly remember barret saying somthing along the lines of "sh'it what about marleen" or somehting like that, ill keep you updated as im about to play the game again

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She was in Kalm. She opens the window and looks out across the plains to Midgar in the distance. Note the architecture of the house she was in and that of the surrounding homes. For that matter, the camera zooms in on Kalm from a good distance away before she is shown in that room.

As for when Barret asks about Marlene, that was back when Diamond WEAPON was approaching Midgar. Cait Sith told him then that she was somewhere safe with Elmyra. In the ending, Barret doesn't ask about Marlene. He only says "Wait a damn minute. What's going to happen to Midgar?"

That "secret cave" is really just the bottom of the materia cliff where Sephiroth and WEAPON are entombed. There's no apparent reason for why Aeris' theme is played there.

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As for when Barret asks about Marlene, that was back when Diamond WEAPON was approaching Midgar. Cait Sith told him then that she was somewhere safe with Elmyra. In the ending, Barret doesn't ask about Marlene. He only says "Wait a damn minute. What's going to happen to Midgar?"

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i bow to you oh great final fantasy master :D

a few quick question's tho, in the begining when cloud goes to tifa's bar and they are inside the lower room, and cloud is talking to barret about his money, afterwhich tifa asks you to talk to everyone i cant seem to be able to talk to biggs, is there a way to talk to him as on one side there's boxes in the way and on the other barrets fat ass is in the way.?

and secondly, at the end you see Nanaki running along with cubs x amount of years in the futre, and i was lead to believe that he was the last of his species how can this be so?

i might tink of more questions as i play the game i know who to ask them to

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...at the end you see Nanaki running along with cubs x amount of years in the futre, and i was lead to believe that he was the last of his species how can this be so?

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Hojo is the one who said he's the last of his species, and it pays to remember that Hojo is a sad, delusional, self-important man and a second-rate scientist.

Nanaki is the last known member of his species, but that simply means that no humans know where his kin are. Bugenhagen even tells Nanaki to continue his journey partly because he "may find [his] life's mate" somewhere along the road. It looks like he was right once again.

I have been trying this http://www.angelfire.com/games/TheEquinox/ but so far have had no luck, I cant use the 4 tissues, but I have a feeling its becasue I havent gotten ressurect yet. I would love to have someone else test it out also, please keep us updated if you do.

That's a gigantic useless rumor. Aerith CAN NOT BE REVIVED. PERIOD. The tissues are useless.

Aeris is dead. I know, I hurt, too, when I saw her die. But I'm living on. So should all of you.

Yes, one can get to Wutai on Disc 1.
how the hell is that possible? I cant find a path, but oh by disk 2 i find a path, what is wrong?

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and secondly, at the end you see Nanaki running along with cubs x amount of years in the futre, and i was lead to believe that he was the last of his species how can this be so?

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That information is deceptive. While one can be led to believe that Red is the last of his species, Bugenhagen later seems to contradict this idea.

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Bugenhagen: It's a wide world and you must go out and see it... You may even find your life's mate. You never know.

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This would suggest, then, that he was not actually the last of his species, and that the ending is fully plausible. However, the central fact of the ending, as I see it, remains that it takes place 500 years later. Recall that no sequels were being planned at this point, and we see that the ending is the only way to ultimately affirm the success of Cloud and company. They succeeded against not only Sephiroth, but also the supposed inevitability of the Planet's death. Remember, when you first visit Cosmo Canyon, Bugenhagen views the demise of Gaia as unavoidable.

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Cloud: ......When the planet dies?

Bugenhagen: Ho Ho Hoooo. It may be tomorrow, or 100 years from now... But it's
not long off.

Cloud: How do you know this?

Bugenhagen: I hear the cries of the Planet.

Cloud: What's that?

Bugenhagen: The sound of the stars in the heavens. While this goes on, planets
are born, and die.

Cloud: What was that?

Bugenhagen: Ho Ho Hoooo. That was a scream from this planet. Didn't you hear it?
As if to say... I hurt, I suffer......

Red XIII: They have come here on a journey to save the planet. Why don't you
show them your apparatus?

Bugenhagen: Ho Ho Hoooo. To save the planet? Ho Ho Hoooo! But, then again, I
guess it wouldn't hurt to show him.

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Bugenhagen: Listen, Nanaki. Cloud says they are trying to save the planet.
Honestly, I don't think it can be done. For even if they stop every reactor on
the planet, it's only going to postpone the inevitable. Even if they stop
Sephiroth, everything will perish. But, Nanaki. I've been thinking lately. I've
been thinking if there was anything WE could do, as a part of the planet,
something to help a planet already in misery... No matter what happens, isn't it
important to try? Am I just wishing against fate?

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One important aspect of the ending, then, is that the Planet, and by extension its Lifestream, survive.

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I have been trying this http://www.angelfire.com/games/TheEquinox/ but so far have had no luck, I cant use the 4 tissues, but I have a feeling its becasue I havent gotten ressurect yet. I would love to have someone else test it out also, please keep us updated if you do.

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Aeris cannot be resurrected; in fact, a recent thread by Squall of SeeD utilizes statements form the creators of the story to show that her death was fully intended, and that a resurrection was never planned. Anything to the contrary is simply a rumor.

More to the point, however, The Equinox rumor is blatantly false. How so? The creator of the site had altered it to show that it was a rumor of his creation, and even outlines the steps he took to create the false screenshots. The explanatory version of The Equinox, which completely deconstructs this rumor, has unfortunately been removed at the present time. Suffice it to say that this rumor, like all rumors that pertain to an ostensible Aeris resurrection, is false.

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Yes, one can get to Wutai on Disc 1.
how the hell is that possible? I cant find a path, but oh by disk 2 i find a path, what is wrong?

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Immediately after acquiring the Tiny Bronco, you should find yourself in the shallows relatively near the Wutai continent. Proceed to the continent. If Yuffie has joined your party, there will obviously be the Wilderness event where she steals your materia and the party is attacked by Shinra troops. If you don't have her, this event will not take place (it can happen later, though). Either way, there should be a relatively striaghtforward path to follow, during which you will cross several bridges. There is one bridge which leads to something of a dead end, but that leaves only one direction to follow. Really, the path is the same on both Discs 1 and 2. I would recommend simply trying again.

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That's a gigantic useless rumor. Aerith CAN NOT BE REVIVED. PERIOD. The tissues are useless.

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You're a god damn liar :cry:

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That's a gigantic useless rumor. Aerith CAN NOT BE REVIVED. PERIOD. The tissues are useless.

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You're a god damn liar :cry:

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I've been found out. She can be revived... I JUST WANTED HER ALL TO MYSELF!!!! ;__________;

furthermore she was to die at the ice cave not the forgotin capital. on

http://www.ff7citadel.com/secrets/s_errors.shtml
their is much "proof"
i never noticed the error in the game. But they are not really errors of the game was never complted?
why does seperoth have no cloves at the top. ANd gloves at the bottom of the screen when he kills ares. And the background has no capital in it. so she was to die later in the game not in disk 1!!

furthermore she was to die at the ice cave not the forgotin capital. on

http://www.ff7citadel.com/secrets/s_errors.shtml
their is much "proof"
i never noticed the error in the game. But they are not really errors of the game was never complted?
why does seperoth have no cloves at the top. ANd gloves at the bottom of the screen when he kills ares. And the background has no capital in it. so she was to die later in the game not in disk 1!!