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There's really nothing to suggest that, though It's far more simple just to conclude that it's an Aeon manifested the same as all other Aeons and that it lies out at sea somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by bartuccio3
As for the torrent of energy on Mt. Gagazet, that's just the flow of memory from the Fayth that is used to manifest the city.
Told ya he'd know.
Assuming that Dream Zanarkand (it is called a dream of the fayth after all. All aeons are dreams of the fayth) is in the middle of the Spiran Ocean doesn't make any sense at all. For one thing, when you are on board the Airship, you can pick any coordinate on the map to explore. Therefore, if Dream Zanarkand was actually in Spira, you could go to it. Also, the Al Bhed have assumingly been exploring the ocean for years. They have machina boats, and gear to be well-equipped for diving and riding throughout the ocean.
-From FFX-2Quote:
Yuna: (narrating) Sacred Mt. Gagazet. Silent guardian of Zanarkand, city of the
dead. When the fayth disappeared, the clouds enshrouding the mountain began to
thin and disperse... ...revealing long-forgotten ruins among its peaks.
To me, it was always safe to assume that the Dream Zanarkand existed above these ruins, with a certain amount of water around it.
Perhaps the Dream Zanarkand truly is "flat", and Jecht came into Spira by falling off of the water, after all, it is a fact that Jecht went out on a boating trip and never returned.
Any coordinate that the developers intended for you to go to, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrojtm
Unless the developers didn't want you to.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrojtm
It's probably a fairly big ocean. In support of this, I'll put a slight spin on what you just said: "The Al Bhed have presumably been exploring the ocean for years. They have Machina boat and gear to be well-equipped for diving and riding throughout the ocean, yet it's only at the beginning of the game that they've discovered the Airship."Quote:
Originally Posted by abrojtm
For that matter, there was another Airship that hadn't yet been discovered, it being the Celsius and frozen in an ice sheet to the north that we can't visit and don't ever see on Spira's map:
(From Final Fantasy X-2)
It's obviously fallacious to argue that we could visit any place in Spira when we don't see this sea of ice that Buddy speaks of and which obviously existed.Quote:
Yuna: It's like you're talking to a person!
Buddy: Of course! After all, this ship is one of the Gullwings too,
y'know.
Yuna: She's been around longer than me, huh?
Buddy: Me and her met for the first time right after you brought us
this Calm of yours. I'd caught word that an old airship was at the
bottom of the sea way up in the north. Me and Brother made our way
through a sea of ice. A fog moved in, so thick we couldn't tell west
from east. On top of that we were freezing our blitzballs off. Yep, I
thought we were done for. Then it appeared above us: a single gull,
flying along out of nowhere. As if it had come to save us, right? We
didn't have a lot of options, so me and Brother chased after that gull
with everything we had left. And by some stroke of luck, we found this
ship nestled within the ice.
Buddy: Along with our winged rescuer.
Yuna: Oh! So that's why we're the Gullwings!
As far as it goes, the Planet is not small in the first place. Sin is huge, but is a tiny speck in comparsion to the Planet as a whole. Check out the video entitled "Gravity Sucks" at BlueLaguna.net to see what I mean:
http://bluelaguna.net/movies/ffx/fmvs.php
If you can't download it, then check out these screenshots, though without the video, it's not as easy to convey the scale:
http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravija9fo.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija29bb.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija38ls.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija44yz.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija53ij.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija65qd.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija78ng.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija82ls.jpg
If you've got the game, you can always fire it up and go to Luca and watch the Gravity Sucks FMV, as well. Looking at how large that section of the Planet seen in the FMV is, and then taking into account that the Planet has to be a symmetrical sphere, hopefully you can see that the Planet is really damn big.
Also, taking into account Sin's size relative to Bevelle, and then considering how small Sin is compared to that one section of the Planet we get to see, that should convey to you a sense of how small the Spiran mainland is and how much more space there is that we never get to see.
And in all that time, no one would have noticed Sin flying up into the sky directly above Mt. Gagazet? That seems less than likely. For that matter, it's not as though an Aeon has to be manifested near its Fayth. Valefor's Fayth is back in Besaid, but she can be manifested in Zanarkand just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrojtm
He ended up in Spira because he came into contact with Sin, the same as Tidus did, only he did so while he was out at sea training instead of doing so in the sky above Aeon Zanarkand.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrojtm
You know, when I first played FFVII and seeing I am alway at a city called Midgar, I thought that my world is Midgar and Midgar alone and never thought of what or is there something out of Midgar or can you get out of Midgar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD
Considering seeing all his lethal attack are gravity based, it make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD
Let's just settle things by agreeing that Spira is donut-shaped. That way everybody's a winner. :grinpink: or a loser, depending on how you see it. :greenie: